JavaOne Struts BOF Notes

2006-05-30 Thread Greg Reddin
Well, it took me a week to get back from California. After J1 we visited some relatives and toured California and Arizona before a long drive home. My contact with the outside world was spotty last week so I'm just now really getting caught up. Anyway, here's some notes I took during

Re: [shale] Shale Tiles problem with Standalone Tiles 0.3-SNAPSHOT

2006-05-28 Thread Greg Reddin
Looks like shale-tiles needs to be refactored to use TilesContext. If no one takes care of it first I'll look at it when I get home. Greg On May 27, 2006, at 8:52 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: I'm not able to compile Shale Tiles against the latest Standalone Tiles code, but it works with

Re: [VOTE] Struts Action Framework v1.3.4 Quality

2006-05-11 Thread Greg Reddin
On May 10, 2006, at 10:02 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 5/10/06, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I missed the discussion where the 1.3 dtd was added - seems like its actually identical to the 1.1 dtd - which IMO serves no purpose. I would rather it was removed. I remember being

Re: [VOTE] Release Struts Build v1.0.1

2006-05-10 Thread Greg Reddin
+1. Thanks for all your hard work on this build stuff :-) Greg On May 10, 2006, at 3:24 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote: In advance of a Struts Action 1.3.x release, we need to release version 1.0.1 of the struts-build jar. A test build has been deployed here: *

[Standalone Tiles] TilesContext, etc.

2006-05-09 Thread Greg Reddin
I've completed the API for TilesContext and added implementations for Servlet and Portlet environments. I did it in a rather sinister way by copying much of the WebContext code from Commons Chain. I wasn't really sure what is the best approach for using portions of another Apache project

Re: [action2] Public API first draft

2006-05-05 Thread Greg Reddin
On May 5, 2006, at 9:36 AM, Jason Carreira wrote: Ugh... I really don't like that... really... seems like using an ugly hack instead of defining a higher-level abstraction. The deal breaker for me was that users will be able to reuse the same code inside and outside of our framework.

Re: [action2] Public API first draft

2006-05-05 Thread Greg Reddin
On May 5, 2006, at 12:47 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: Consider the way the world was before JSR-168 happened ... every portal server had their own completely different API for building portlets Yes, and I am stuck working on one of those (or should I say working *around* one of those) as

Re: [VOTE] Release the struts-parent pom v2

2006-05-03 Thread Greg Reddin
+1 Greg On May 3, 2006, at 10:34 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: We need to release version 2 of the struts-parent pom: * http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/maven/trunk/pom/pom.xml This is the parent pom from which struts-action-parent inherits, and it needs to be released prior to the Struts

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-05-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Apr 28, 2006, at 3:06 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: Craig mentioned HtmlUnit, which we're now using with Cargo to confirm that each Action 1 example app will at least deploy and display its default page. If you'll check in the app you mentioned, Done. It's not much to speak of, but it's a

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-05-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On May 1, 2006, at 2:27 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: Thanks. Which build are you using? I'd like to arrange Standalone Tiles into modules for Maven 2 so that the example app can live beside tiles-core, rather than in a separate sandbox project. Yes, that would be awesome! I am now using the

Re: [VOTE] Accept and Graduate WebWork 2 Podling to Struts

2006-04-28 Thread Greg Reddin
+0. I'd say +1, but it looks like it will be a bit before I have a chance to get more involved. Greg On Apr 28, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Don Brown wrote: I call a vote that the Struts PMC accept the WebWork 2 podling as having met the incubation requirements and thereby be accepted by the

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Progress

2006-04-28 Thread Greg Reddin
, Greg Reddin wrote: I've added a preliminary version of a TilesContext interface and refactored the core API to use it. The interface is a first attempt at extracting the Servlet API dependencies. Here are some more details: I debated about whether to model TilesContext after Commons

Linking SVN to JIRA

2006-04-27 Thread Greg Reddin
I'm getting ready to make some commits and I'd like to link them to JIRA tickets. Is there a way to format the commit message so that JIRA or something will automatically associate the commit with the ticket? I've seen this discussed before but I'm not sure if I've seen the specifics for

[jira] Resolved: (STR-2729) [Standalone Tiles] Refactor Taglib

2006-04-27 Thread Greg Reddin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-2729?page=all ] Greg Reddin resolved STR-2729: -- Resolution: Fixed Assign To: Greg Reddin (was: Struts Developer Mailing List) Taglib was refactored a month or so back. I must've forgotten to close

[jira] Commented: (STR-2730) [Standalone Tiles\ Remove Servlet API Dependencies

2006-04-27 Thread Greg Reddin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/struts/browse/STR-2730?page=comments#action_37212 ] Greg Reddin commented on STR-2730: -- Committed TilesContext interface. It is modeled after the WebContext of Commons-Chain. I thought about modeling it after JSF's

Re: Proposal for change

2006-04-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:55 AM, Frank W. Zammetti wrote: That depends entirely on your meaning of the word closed. You make the argument that the number of new committers means it isn't closed, and I agree with you to a degree. But that's not the only meaning of closed... the invitations to

Re: [PROPOSAL] Separate lists for notifications vs. discussion

2006-04-25 Thread Greg Reddin
+1 On Apr 25, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: To make it easier to filter and sort messages, and to facilitate presenting the lists through alternate interfaces such as forums and RSS feeds, I propose that we do the following: * establish [EMAIL PROTECTED] and direct JIRA emails to it

Re: Standalone Tiles as TLP

2006-04-24 Thread Greg Reddin
My time is very limited today so I'll respond quickly. 1) I want to get Tiles as close to a release as possible by J1, but it's a daunting task. The only huge effort is factoring out dependencies on the Servlet API, then testing. 2) I'm cool with joint up with the Jakarta Web

Re: Standalone Tiles as TLP

2006-04-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Apr 21, 2006, at 8:41 AM, Sean Schofield wrote: As for top level project, I agree that Tiles probably belongs here but I'm not opposed. For me the main thing is that Tiles should be decoupled from the Action framework. MyFaces Tomahawk currently requires the full struts jar in order to

Re: Standalone Tiles as TLP

2006-04-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Apr 21, 2006, at 7:56 AM, Ted Husted wrote: IMHO, once Standalone Tiles is ready for a release, we should migrate the component to a top-level ASF project. When we started this process, the original intent was to decompose Tiles here, test it in Action and Shale, and then move it out when

Re: Towards a stable 1.3 release

2006-03-31 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 31, 2006, at 7:33 AM, James Mitchell wrote: I also want to ask how everyone feels about our current build process. Are you using Ant, Maven 1 or Maven 2? Mostly Maven 1. I'm trying to move towards Maven 2, but for some reason I can't get the tests to run for M2 (with Standalone

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Maybe too much bound to Locale

2006-03-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 27, 2006, at 5:54 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: I've noticed that both DefinitionsFactory and ComponentDefinitions are both too (IMHO) tightly bound to the Locale. What I mean is that maybe using Locale class to distinguish between different sets of definitions is not a good idea. From

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Maybe too much bound to Locale

2006-03-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 28, 2006, at 9:47 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Actually Dimensions chooses from name, user role and channel, or only name and user role, Yes, I forgot about user role :-) But what about adding an API that requires a generic Object key parameter to support the 3rd dimension?

Re: Action 2 has begun!

2006-03-24 Thread Greg Reddin
Congratulations! Great job, guys! Greg On Mar 23, 2006, at 7:54 PM, Don Brown wrote: The WebWork team has successfully completed WebWork 2.2.2, which was immediately imported into the WebWork 2 Incubator podling. Here is the current status: - The code is at

Re: WebWork renaming strategy

2006-03-24 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 24, 2006, at 12:56 PM, Don Brown wrote: I've renamed the WebWork packages, and both the code compiles and all tests pass correctly. However, as I start with the greater renaming task, I thought I'd propose a strategy and get some feedback on it: I hate using things like action2

Re: [OT] WebWork renaming strategy

2006-03-24 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:21 PM, Michael Jouravlev wrote: On 3/24/06, Greg Reddin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hate using things like action2 in a name. It's like admitting that we're going to have to change it someday. May as well put temp in the name. You have not used COM for Windows, have

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 22, 2006, at 2:35 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Uh? Who called me? I obviously will be pleased to help if you want :-) I could take my experience with Dimensions to add some missing pieces. Anyway, if I will be so lucky to help you all, notice that I am very busy, I can work on it

Re: [OT] Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 22, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Greg Reddin ha scritto: On Mar 22, 2006, at 2:51 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: Antonio Petrelli ha scritto: I can work on it for about 1-2 hour a day. I meant one or two hours a day, not half an hour... It was a bit ambiguous

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 21, 2006, at 6:04 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: For a library claiming to be standalone, I would be a little cautious about depending on either set of mock object APIs. Certainly, no such dependencies should be in the core software, but dependencies in the test cases are acceptable,

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 22, 2006, at 9:41 AM, Antonio Petrelli wrote: It is not an issue anymore because I wrote a workaround in Dimensions code. It simply clears the path attribute of a definition when it's extended (overloaded) when the extended definition does not specify the path attribute. The

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-22 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 22, 2006, at 11:45 AM, Craig McClanahan wrote: The Shale test framework classes include mock implementations of essentially all APIs in the servlet spec (as well as JSF, but that's not really relevant here). As such, it can be used as a source of things like MockServletContext,

Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-21 Thread Greg Reddin
I've just checked in the last taglib refactoring work that I can think of. That turned out to be a much smaller chunk of work than I had thought. If you're following the wiki page[1] that means Milestone 2 in the 4-step process to release is largely complete. There's one remaining

Re: [Proposal] Consolidate extras, EL, taglibs, and faces under 'action' (was Maven groupId and svn repo structure)

2006-03-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:56 PM, Don Brown wrote: Wendy Smoak wrote: Looking at the list again, struts-tiles is missing. And I'm not sure how Faces is going to fit in there, it has a different set of dependencies than the others. That will all sort itself out when you start moving things

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 21, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Gary VanMatre wrote: I wonder if the shale test framework can be leveraged here. There are mock objects for the servlet API. I need to take a closer look at that. I'm using Struts Test Case in a few places in Standalone Tiles already. 2) moving on to

Re: Standalone Tiles: Status and Call for Help

2006-03-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 21, 2006, at 4:45 PM, Gary VanMatre wrote: I suppose that the choice of the context object could favor action versus shale for a test framework. Since I'm in the JSF fan club, I'd argue that we could implement the ExternalContext interface since the JSF API will soon be a given.

Re: Bylaws and Releases

2006-03-10 Thread Greg Reddin
On Mar 9, 2006, at 7:02 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: That says the Alpha label cannot be applied to a release without a vote. Before that, it's only a 'proposed release'. (The notion of 'test build' is not in the bylaws.) It also says that alpha releases can be distributed. I think proposed

Maven 2 Build Problem

2006-03-10 Thread Greg Reddin
Since I last spent a significant amount of time on Standalone Tiles the Maven 2 build has been added. I thought I'd give it a try and I'm getting the error below. I can build with Maven 1 without issue. But running mvn package yields the following exception in the tests. Does anyone

Re: [Proposal] Switch to JIRA

2006-03-01 Thread Greg Reddin
+1 On Feb 28, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Don Brown wrote: We've talked about it, but here is the official proposal: I propose we switch from Bugzilla to JIRA for all our ticketing needs. The reason I bring this up now is we are trying to solidify how the WebWork 2 cutover will go. Part of the

Re: Tiles and Java 5

2006-02-27 Thread Greg Reddin
Java 5 is not required to compile Standalone Tiles. It looks like whoever built the JAR that is currently posted built it using Java 5. I'm not really sure how that process works right now. You could download the project and build it yourself in the meantime. I use the maven build all

Re: Struts Action Friends 1.3.0 MVC

2006-02-24 Thread Greg Reddin
A very hearty +1 :-) Ted, you were not far behind in terms of strength expended from what I can tell. Thanks!! Greg On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:49 PM, Ted Husted wrote: I'd like to nominate Wendy Smoak as the Most Valuable Committer in making the release of the new 1.3.0 builds possible. Along

Re: svn commit: r379284 - in /struts/sandbox/trunk/tiles/src/java/org/apache/tiles/listener: ./ TilesListener.java

2006-02-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Feb 20, 2006, at 8:02 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: +/** + * @author mraible Is Standalone Tiles using @author tags, or should this be removed (with Matt's permission)? I wasn't sure how to handle that. I remember the discussions some time ago about removing author tags, but I'm not sure

Re: [VOTE] Confirm the Struts Action Library 1.3.0 release plan

2006-02-16 Thread Greg Reddin
Non-binding +1 to tagging the repository. Sorry for the late response. Greg On Feb 16, 2006, at 8:15 AM, Ted Husted wrote: A release plan is a majority vote, so we need three binding +1s from PMC members and more binding +1s than -1s. A +1 here is on the tagging the repository.

Re: [VOTE] Accept WebWork 2 Merger Incubator Proposal

2006-01-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:16 PM, Don Brown wrote: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/WebWork2Incubator +1 Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: svn commit: r371783 - /struts/sandbox/trunk/tiles/pom.xml

2006-01-24 Thread Greg Reddin
Thanks, Wendy. Looks awesome. Greg On Jan 23, 2006, at 9:36 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: On 1/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: wsmoak Date: Mon Jan 23 18:56:45 2006 New Revision: 371783 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=371783view=rev Log: Added Maven 2 build file.

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-19 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jan 19, 2006, at 9:53 AM, Sean Schofield wrote: A transcript is helpful but its basically a record of a conversation that took place without everyone's involvement. Seeing as how I *never* have time to participate in chat, transcripts would provide me with way more involvement than I

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
There are several things I've been thinking about as this discussion has developed. First, it is true with any craft, but especially with technology, that we must always be willing to change when better ways come along. Otherwise we stagnate and fade away. So if I would be more

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jan 18, 2006, at 12:21 PM, Laurie Harper wrote: Just to point out the obvious: directing wiki/commit/issue logs to separate lists in no way precludes having everything show up on the dev list as well. We could have dev-svn@, dev-wiki@, dev-issues@, etc plus dev-discuss@ and simply

Re: Non-discussion emails

2006-01-18 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jan 18, 2006, at 12:49 PM, faisal abdallah wrote: It is also an un-unsubscribtion mailing list. Has anybody managed to unsubscribe from this mailing list Yes, several times using the information below. - To

Standalone Tiles Roadmap

2005-12-16 Thread Greg Reddin
I've posted a very skeletal roadmap to the wiki: http:// wiki.apache.org/struts/StandaloneTiles. If anyone wants to comment or add detail please feel free. Thanks, Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [OT] IDE Haters (Was Re: Logging in MailReader 1.3)

2005-12-09 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 9, 2005, at 8:02 AM, Sean Schofield wrote: Please keep in mind that there are still a good number of people who do not use an IDE at all. Why on earth would you someone do such a thing? Seriously. I'd like to know :-) Bragging rights, what else :-) There are occasions when I

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Major Refactoring (Long)

2005-12-02 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 2, 2005, at 12:06 AM, Wendy Smoak wrote: People can then declare a dependency on a particular timestamped snapshot, or on -SNAPSHOT in which case Maven will use the latest version. Is this what you want to do for Stand-alone Tiles? I think this would be great. The main goal for me

Re: [Standalone Tiles] TilesRequestProcessor and TilesPlugin

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 1, 2005, at 5:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed that TilesRequestProcessor and TilesPlugin have disappeared from Tiles standalone. Yes, these are the components of Tiles that provide integration with Struts 1.2.x and earlier. They were removed to

Re: [Standalone Tiles] From Struts-Tiles to Tiles-standalone incompatibilities

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 1, 2005, at 10:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello (again) :-) I am in the process of porting a product based upon (Struts) Tiles called Dimensions. It makes intensive use of FactorySet class. I am trying to port a simple example to Tiles Standalone, but I'm having a growing

[Standalone Tiles] Major Refactoring (Long)

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
I have just checked in a sweeping refactoring of the Standalone Tiles codebase. Many may see it and immediately hurl cruise missiles in my general direction :-) Please do, I can take it. First and foremost however, I ask that you remember this is the sandbox. I'm just experimenting and

Re: [Standalone Tiles] TilesRequestProcessor and TilesPlugin

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 1, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Joe Germuska wrote: I haven't looked at how the TilesServlet deals with looking up tiles definitions from request paths, but I can imagine a few ways to allow you to configure this if you wanted it. Certainly there should be flexibility and user choice in how

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Major Refactoring (Long)

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 1, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Sean Schofield wrote: I can't believe how much you like to punish yourself! Is anyone else helping you with this massive effort? Well, I brought this on myself :-) I've been a big fan of Tiles ever since I first used it. When people started talking about

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Major Refactoring (Long)

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: I can also work on the TLD-- I think I was waiting for a decision on which attributes will be kept, but I'll go ahead and move the documentation into it. And, of course, publish the website. I forgot about the TLD. I haven't even looked at

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Major Refactoring (Long)

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:15 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: One thing we should probably do is talk a bit about snapshots during the intermediate time period while the codebase is unstable. It doesn't make sense to me to publish tiles-core-SNAPSHOT.jar artifacts to ibiblio.org, for example,

Re: [VOTE] Confirm Shale 1.0.0 Test Build Release Plan

2005-12-01 Thread Greg Reddin
+1 (non-binding) On Dec 1, 2005, at 4:02 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: All of the outstanding issues have been accounted for -- it's time to release the initial test build of Shale! Given the amount of time since the 1.0.0 release plan was first proposed, I'd like to call for a vote

Re: [PROPOSAL] Target tickets to milestones and use as roadmap

2005-11-30 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 30, 2005, at 6:25 AM, Ted Husted wrote: Or, we could JIRA for the new projects, which supports Roadmaps directly. I think I'd be more in favor of this with Jira than Bugzilla, but I'm +0 even with Bugzilla. Greg

Re: [PROPOSAL] Target tickets to milestones and use as roadmap

2005-11-30 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 30, 2005, at 11:21 AM, Don Brown wrote: But back to the topic, what do folks think of the proposal to target tickets to milestones and use them for release planning? +1. It's basically just a formalization of what we do on the wiki now, right? I think we should start immediately

Re: Commit template (was [PROPOSAL] Target tickets to milestones and use as roadmap)

2005-11-30 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 30, 2005, at 1:49 PM, Don Brown wrote: There was in the CVS days, and I don't believe I've seen it since. I'm thinking something simple like: Adding this new feature PR: 234 Type: (fix, add, update, documentation) Contributed By: Sarah Jones Just a clarification: Are we saying

Re: svn commit: r345707 - in /struts/tiles/trunk/xdocs: faq.fml navigation.xml

2005-11-21 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 19, 2005, at 7:57 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: Greg, since you've been working on the Tiles docs... feel free to correct or expand on my attempts at answers. :) I just saw that. Thanks, I'll take a look. Greg - To

Re: [shale] starting points and Use Cases issues

2005-11-18 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 18, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Laurie Harper wrote: I couldn't sleep, so I've been spending the night looking at a few things, amoung them Shale. I was wondering what a good starting place would be to get up to speed quickly, since I haven't really looked at JSF or Shale before now. I

Re: SVN Question

2005-11-17 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 17, 2005, at 7:30 AM, Sean Schofield wrote: If a file was moved by someone else while you were working on it, I think the best thing to do is a clean checkout in a separate dir. Then copy the file change to the new dir and revert the change in the old dir. Then remove the new dir and

SVN Question

2005-11-15 Thread Greg Reddin
I want to check in a file in the tiles docs that was once there, but has been deleted. I've tried using the svn copy command to restore the file as noted in the manual [1] but it doesn't work. Subversion says it can't find the file in revision xx. It doesn't seem to matter what I set

Problem With Tiles Doc

2005-11-10 Thread Greg Reddin
If you go to the Tiles Home page (http://struts.apache.org/struts- tiles/index.html) then click on the Struts logo at the top, you'll get a 404 because the Struts logo links to http://struts.apache.org/ tiles. It needs to link to http://struts.apache.org but I can't figure out where the URL

Re: Struts Core Library versioning

2005-11-03 Thread Greg Reddin
I guess I long for simplicity. I'm cool with the way everything is structured. I would prefer a version number on the distro. And to me it seems more natural to start it with 1.3.0. That's what we're doing with the Tiles subproject. Even though it's really release 0.1 of the Tiles

Re: Struts Core Library versioning

2005-11-03 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 3, 2005, at 12:12 PM, Ted Husted wrote: At this point, my suggestion would be to just give the Library distribution a sequential counter. The first GA release could be _001, and the next _002, and so forth. * struts_core_library_001.zip * struts_core_library_002.zip Or, we could just

Re: [POLL] What do you plan to use with your next project?

2005-11-01 Thread Greg Reddin
On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Ted Husted wrote: (1) Is your team planning a new web application project over the next twelve months? Yes. (1a) If so, what web application framework do you plan to use? Probably Shale. Although, I have not had very much time to figure shale out yet. I can

Re: svn commit: r329352 - in /struts/tiles/trunk/xdocs: index.xml navigation.xml

2005-10-28 Thread Greg Reddin
This is my first commit. Anyone care to check it and make sure everything is set correctly? BTW, I noticed the wiki page explained how to set the keywords property on xdocs files, but it doesn't say anything about including the keywords within the file. Can someone elaborate on how that

Re: [Tiles] Resolving inheritances improvements

2005-10-07 Thread Greg Reddin
On Oct 7, 2005, at 4:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Find the leaf definition file; 2) If it is already loaded, finish. 3) Create an empty definitions set; 4) put all missing definitions loaded into the definitions set; 5) find the parent definition file; 6) if it is

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Tiles Refactoring Part 2

2005-10-07 Thread Greg Reddin
On Oct 6, 2005, at 3:20 PM, Cedric Dumoulin wrote: But be care, there is some not so often used API that are used by some companies. I hope these APIs will remain. I think of : - the possibility to provide another implementation for tiles factory (use of a DB ...) - the i18n mechanism

[Standalone Tiles] Tiles Refactoring Part 2

2005-10-06 Thread Greg Reddin
I hope no one who has worked on Tiles in the past - especially Cedric - takes offense to this because none is intended. But here goes... Every time I dig into Tiles I'm overwhelmed by the complexity of the API. IMHO, it seems like Tiles employs way too many classes to do it's job. I

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Tiles Refactoring Part 2

2005-10-06 Thread Greg Reddin
On Oct 6, 2005, at 11:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Err... Include me in the list please: http://mutidimensions.sf.net/ Dimensions is based on DefinitionsFactory, FactorySet and various usually unused classes. I hope you are not willing to break them :-P To some

Re: Standalone Tiles - JSP version tld file

2005-08-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Aug 25, 2005, at 12:28 AM, Craig McClanahan wrote: However, I've got a separate / semi-related question. Given that we're changing package names anyway, it would be really cool to abstract away the servlet API specific calling sequences, so that standalone Tiles could work equally

Re: Standalone Tiles - JSP version tld file

2005-08-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:44 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Martin- there is also an issue with the Maven build for Tiles standalone. the dtds are not inside the jar file, *after* maven build Make sure you're svn copy is up to date. I believe Wendy fixed that. If I run maven jar I get the DTDs

Re: Standalone Tiles - JSP version tld file

2005-08-25 Thread Greg Reddin
On Aug 25, 2005, at 1:55 PM, David Geary wrote: I'm +1 for this, but should we make plugging standalone Tiles back into Struts a priority and tackle this once that's done? Perhaps it's unfounded, but I'm concerned that the current Tiles will change if we don't act quickly. If Tiles needs

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Refactor Definitions Factory and Create Reloadable

2005-08-17 Thread Greg Reddin
Where do we stand on the Standalone Tiles Patch I submitted? I'm not being impatient just inquisitive :-) I know David is very busy and hasn't had much time to look at it. But I also know Craig is about to port some more Struts 1.3 changes to the Standalone Tiles project. I'm willing to

Re: [Standalone Tiles] Refactor Definitions Factory and Create Reloadable

2005-08-17 Thread Greg Reddin
the refactoring changes before dealing with the deprecated method removals that were done on the Struts-embedded version for 1.3. Craig On 8/17/05, Greg Reddin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where do we stand on the Standalone Tiles Patch I submitted? I'm not being impatient just inquisitive :-) I know David

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-09 Thread Greg Reddin
On Aug 8, 2005, at 8:18 PM, Wendy Smoak wrote: Both is also an option. :) There is already a Maven build for Standalone Tiles-- it came over from struts-tiles when the files were copied, and it works. The project.xml file needs a few changes-- I'll check them in if no one minds. In the

Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles

2005-08-08 Thread Greg Reddin
Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi guys, Is it possible to *use* Apache Tiles (standalone one) inside of Struts 1.2 ? I didn't see a plugin inside of the tiles standalone dist. There is currently no plugin or TilesRequestProcessor in the Standalone Tiles project. I question whether it would

Re: Vote: ANT or Maven for Standalone Tiles (was Re: [Tiles] Struts Plugin in standalone Tiles)

2005-08-08 Thread Greg Reddin
Non-committer input: If I had a vote I'd vote for Maven. I *prefer* Maven but I can work with Ant. It's not an issue that will keep me from supporting the project. I prefer Maven because, to me, it makes dependency management, scripting builds, and some other things easier (i.e. I have to

Re: [OT] Ant vs. Maven - convince me! :)

2005-08-08 Thread Greg Reddin
Frank W. Zammetti wrote: I'm not at all trying to start a flame war here, but I'd like to ask, can anyone enumerate some real, legitimate reasons, as far as you are concerned at least!, why Maven is better than Ant (or vice-versa if you feel that way). I think Maven is better than Ant type

[tiles] Reloadable Configuration and Refactoring (long)

2005-08-01 Thread Greg Reddin
I wanted to send an update on the work I've been doing with Tiles. I should have some code by today or tomorrow. I'm refactoring the DefinitionsFactory structure (as described below), creating a Filter that will reload the factory if it's out of date, and writing unit tests to verify all the

Re: [shale][clay] Updating clay config file on the fly

2005-07-29 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 29, 2005, at 1:55 AM, Craig McClanahan wrote: It's sort of a different way to look at it, but consider this ... maybe the act of configuring the filter *is* your indication that you want to check for reloads, and lack of the filter would work as things do today (i.e. you have to reload

[tiles] getResourceAsStream question

2005-07-29 Thread Greg Reddin
I was working on some test cases for standalone Tiles and the following code in I18nFactorySet was not behaving as I expected: // If the config isn't in the servlet context, try the class loader // which allows the config files to be stored in a jar if (input

[tiles] Reloadable configuration

2005-07-29 Thread Greg Reddin
Well, this reloadable config thing is bigger than I thought. Here's the approach I've been playing with today: I'd appreciate some feedback on possible approaches. I can certainly send code if I need to. I wrote a TilesFilter that does what TilesServlet currently does. That seems to be

Re: [tiles] Reloadable configuration

2005-07-29 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 29, 2005, at 6:16 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: I like the idea of having an interface that a DefinitionFactory could implement to say it knows how to do the reload thing (coupled with some of the refactoring you discuss below). However, I would recommend *not* limiting reload support to a

[tiles] Standalone Tiles Questions

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
Standalone Tiles has a test called TestTilesPlugin that is looking for TilesPlugin and TilesRequestProcessor. Are those classes supposed to remain in the Struts tree or should they be moved into standalone Tiles? I can't get Standalone Tiles to build successfully without those, at least not

Re: [tiles] Standalone Tiles Questions

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 28, 2005, at 1:50 PM, Joe Germuska wrote: At 1:19 PM -0500 7/28/05, Greg Reddin wrote: Actually, I was thinking that if you had a standalone Tiles, you wouldn't need bits of glue; wouldn't you just install Tiles as a servlet in the webapp which mapped to something like *.tiles

Re: [shale][clay] Updating clay config file on the fly

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 28, 2005, at 11:51 AM, David Geary wrote: I'll try to take a look next week to see what it'd take, but in the meantime if someone implements it out from under me, I won't feel bad. 8-) It looks like everything needed to load a DefinitionsFactory is available in DefinitionsUtil. Right

Re: [shale][clay] Updating clay config file on the fly

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 28, 2005, at 3:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) How to trigger a reload()? Via a request to the servlet or some kind of API call, or a process that is watching the config files. Could maybe work like JSP, when you ask for a definition, the factory will look to see if it has changed.

Re: [shale][clay] Updating clay config file on the fly

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 28, 2005, at 4:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The JSP-like approach would be more intrusive. The DefinitionsFactory would have to store the modified date of a definition and the getDefinition() method would have to check the date against the date of the file and reload if necessary.

Re: [shale][clay] Updating clay config file on the fly

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 28, 2005, at 4:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The JSP-like approach would be more intrusive. The DefinitionsFactory would have to store the modified date of a definition and the getDefinition() method would have to check the date against the date of the file

Re: [shale][clay] Updating clay config file on the fly

2005-07-28 Thread Greg Reddin
On Jul 28, 2005, at 6:30 PM, David Geary wrote: I'm not sure I like pulling Chain into Tiles standalone (we are talking about writing a Chain Command in Tiles, right?). I would prefer a POJO in Tiles that does the dirty work (Shale could have a Command wrapper that calls Tiles' POJO, if need

Re: [shale] nightly builds

2005-07-27 Thread Greg Reddin
Craig McClanahan wrote: There is also an integration with the standalone version of Tiles that is in the Struts sandbox. The Shale side of that is stable, but we need a standalone Tiles release to consider the entire thing stable. BTW, how will that be distributed? Will it be part of the

Re: [ANN] CVS to Subversion Conversion Wednesday

2004-09-28 Thread Greg Reddin
CVS in pserver mode connects over port 2401. Does anyone know what port svn uses? Thanks, Greg Sean Schofield wrote: Yes. I think the problem must be my firewall at work. I have the same problem accessing CVS from work as well. The client must be requiring something over a port that is

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