Is there any public Java One plans?
If not, I am going to the Resin get together.
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Niall Pemberton wrote:
I can't recommend one - I'm started looking at them the other day. But the
main contenders (for open source java) seem to be:
OpenCMS - http://www.opencms.org/opencms/en/
InfoGlue - http://www.infoglue.org/
Magnolia -
That's kind of the idea. Pick 1! Just vote.
(I persoanly like Ant, it can do same things, but having one is better,
not 2)
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In any case, +1 for picking one and getting on with it. ;-)
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It can be marked as alpha, means that API could change in 1.3.1
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So while I'd like to see a 1.3.0 release soon
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ups; then a prototype specific
to mock up, then form model not start coding utill later. When I
see problems on a proejct, its not becuase they laid it out wrong.)
So unless pinged otherwise, I will post itermitent builds on struts.sf.net.
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Vic wrote:
If anyone wants (Vic et al), we can
Equinox(Appfuse too) even goes as far as having Hibrenate. Does ANYONE
think it be a good idea to have iBatis in the template?
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Don Brown wrote:
I think there is room for a quickstart tool somewhere between
struts-blank.war and AppFuse
(http://raibledesigns.com/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=AppFuse).
Don Brown wrote:
I was looking at updating the Blank application and had a few questions:
1. Can I get rid of the data source stuff including the jdbc
extensions? Hasn't data sources been deprecated for quite a while now?
PLEASE!
2. Any way we could ship with servlet.jar? It would be nice if
applications out there are the same, I think
that's a good thing. (I can still look at struts-config and follow
anything). Once it goes user chain, it will be a bit more similar
project to project.
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If anyone wants (Vic et al), we can submit a patch to the Maven team
for a best practices template
After reading sone noise ;-) on Matt Raibles blog:
public interfce Action { //DispatchAction, like if parm=save it
would call onSaveExec(ctx), that would do FormModel.save();
public void execute(Context ctx); // poulate maped form and put
results in ctx
}
public interface FormModel extends
Ted Husted wrote:
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/tools/view/
It's *very* important to note that our tools (like Velocity's) would not be designed to emit markup. Just the dynamic data we need to wrap in markup when the page is rendered. This is *not* a suggestion that Core get back into the
Don Brown wrote:
a. A single class which combines the request logic and request
model, or as we call it, ActionForm.
I don't like that. Separate is simple to extend, and in my mind.
b. Multiple action methods per class ala DispatchAction.
With onSaveExec(.. onDisplayListExec( ...
That sounds
Or eventlualy:
chains
definename=myAction
className=com.UsrCmd
formThing=MyDynaMap
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Don Brown wrote:
Here is what an action mapping might look like:
action-mapping path=Item
type=foo.bar.ItemAction
method=view
You referenced Shale, which AFAIK Ted is not doing. So he just did you a
favor and forwarded it, so that people that do volunteer on Shale can
leverage your ideas.
Nothing in your original email could be viewed as private at 1st glance.
All have full mail boxes, it's hard to keep track.
Thanks
Hey Cedric... good to see you
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dev@struts.apache.org wrote:
Date: 2005-01-17T08:48:49
Editor: CedricDumoulin
Wiki: Apache Struts Wiki
Page: TilesTopLevel
URL: http://wiki.apache.org/struts/TilesTopLevel
no comment
Change Log:
As far as site docs... that is a lot of work. One alternative is to use
one of PHP CMS systems... it is easy and no work. I know, I know.
(BasicPortal is Apache License, that is Struts and it works at several
comercial even that is less work).
Springframework.com uses something. Etc. etc.
I
Yes Sean I kind of disagree with you too. I think it's great that Struts
is diverse and I hope it gets more so.
My excuse is that I am working on JDNC a lot.
I plan to integrate w/ Struts chain ... after it's released, so I do
benefit from Joe's efforts; I just can't help him. I think it takes
Sean Schofield wrote:
JSF is really a complete application framework. It does pretty much
everything Struts does (more or less) so I think that would make it a
competitor of Struts.
Struts allways had competitors. Trubine, the one w/ a beaver logo (what
was that?). Now I can name a half a
Dave Brosius wrote:
Hi folks,
I was wondering if you folks had a list of common coding mistakes that
people do with regards to using Struts that could be found by analysing byte
code? I am a developer on Findbugs (findbugs.sourceforge.net) and would like to
add detectors for such, if they
THANK YOU!
I think most of us are watching in awe, or at least I am.
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Joe Germuska wrote:
For the daring, I've put up another round of my work in progress at
http://www.apache.org/~germuska/struts-1.3.0-dev/
I fixed some fairly boneheaded problems with the last version and got
it at least
I moved my videos here :
https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=49385package_id=74701
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David just bloged that he wants to fork tiles to separate Struts
I think Struts deves have been looking for someone to develop Tiles,
like taglibs subproject.
I suggest that DG be invited as a Struts committer in any case; and that
if he wants to make
Martin Cooper wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 09:46:17 -0700, David Geary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If Tiles stays with Apache do we have to go
through incubation? It'd be nice if we could skip incubation,
considering that Tiles has been incubating in Struts for years. 8-)
I think that we should
Craig McClanahan wrote:
I believe that Struts will become
gradually less relevant for new application development unless it
adopts JSF strongly;
:-). I don't think so.
and it would be a shame to have to *compete* with
Struts instead of *being* Struts.
Why not have JSF compete with HTML tag
Deadman, Hal wrote:
Webstart has been around for awhile and it has its place but it's not
going to make web applications go away any time soon. I
Clients and users think that good is good looking.
So this is one future path posibility of a dynamic/futuristic
architecture, that should be easier w/
Sean Schofield wrote:
I think of the browser as a
crappier version of WebStart.
;-)
Walk towards the light
I try to make my apps look like they are browser based. so people I
show it to say: Nice DHTML. :-). Yah.
This is not the old Swing, Swing Extensions in JDNC are VERY good ...
and
David just bloged that he wants to fork tiles to separate Struts
I think Struts deves have been looking for someone to develop Tiles,
like taglibs subproject.
I suggest that DG be invited as a Struts committer in any case; and that
if he wants to make an idenepndet tiles, he be offer resource
Don Brown wrote:
perhaps another neutral mock library should be used,
jMock. It lets you extend a class, then write tests in it.
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Is there another link for 1.3 nigly builds?
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Don Brown wrote:
e how to migrate that build process over, especially as we await the
Ant reorganization Martin is working on. I'm leaning to committing
all my changes once I got all the code compiling and let someone more
knowledgable setup cactus for these two subprojects.
Don
Can't offer
Joe Germuska wrote:
I do think that Struts shouldn't depend on subprojects.
-1.
core should not depdend on any subprojects I think. Not today, 1st day
or repackaging but eventualy.
I also think subprojects should be set up to depend on a struts.jar ...
and not the code.
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Don, you D'man!
This is a great Apache X-mass, I have a nice toy to play w/.
I am so excited...
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Craig McClanahan wrote:
On 22 Dec 2004 06:11:56 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Author: martinc
Date: Tue Dec 21 22:08:58 2004
New Revision: 123053
URL:
Joe Germuska wrote:
Actually, this solves the 'chaining action' conundrum, because your
command can actually point to a chain, where you compose a series of
logical steps which execute, but which do not each require an
additional pass through the rest of the RequestProcessor chain.
Or just
Ah... can someone educate me as to why not just subclass chain context,
would it not let you just do the same thing you said bellow?
(and w/o servlet api).
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Don Brown wrote:
The summary of our discussion, as I understand it, would be to create
a ActionContext, which would not be a subclass of
? The express way IMO is to fix bugs and submit diff
in bugzila. Or to have a popular Struts sub project on sf.net.
I am not a comitter, just so you know.
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Dakota Jack wrote:
Thanks, Vic,
Your assistance is a little dark to me. It seems as if you are
suggesting solutions other than using a Map
HTML tag lib for getters. (Else you could do some funky EL)
Request processor you should look at for setters. Also look at Joda
beans on sf.net.
My implement ion made a FormBean into a List (for mutirow CRUD).
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Dakota Jack wrote:
Perhaps I should be clearer on this. I would like to have an
In case anyone wants to know what I did SoA MVC wise:
I was looking for SoA MVC type framework none I found. When I learned
Chain, I saw how View or Client does not matter (because context is the
argument so it isolates users code from view signature). So I developed
a SoA dispatcher.
I also
Yes Vic, good idea ;-). Resin also has a quick JMX tutorial:
http://www.caucho.com/resin-3.0/jmx/tutorial/basic/index.xtp
It look like IoC to me.
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Vic wrote:
We have talked CoR, IoC... but not yet JMX/Modeler.
Tomcat 5.5 has JMX.
If any singleton types are in the registry, and we get them from
Niall Pemberton wrote:
Vic,
Are you thinking this would this be a good idea to manage the Struts API
Bean thats being talked about?
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.jakarta.struts.devel/23601
Exactly! Not sure what version. Just expose it for now.
... or did you have other ideas where
Being able to monitor is a big deal! As soon as we know what this
RequestProcessBeanThingObject is, anyone can make an mBean. Then it be
obvois that you do want to look at it.
My use case is that I want to look at DAO cache and Lucene cache for
hits/misses and size of SoftHashMap % relative to
We have talked CoR, IoC... but not yet JMX/Modeler.
Tomcat 5.5 has JMX.
If any singleton types are in the registry, and we get them from
registry.
It's a big chunk to bite of.
I still do not know how to use JMX, but . . .
What if there was a way that object in the Chain XML Catalog commands
repost (gmane)
Flex just does that, it is declerative programing language. I think
it is the far future (I think SoA is up 1st).
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/flex/15/asdocs_en/mxml-tags.html
It even has a repeater xml
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quote
XML configuration cannot replace traditional programming.
/quote
+ 1
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David Graham wrote:
If Spring and/or JSF simplify
using Struts, then I wholeheartedly support using them. But first we need
to show how they accomplish that and not just use them because they're
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Vic wrote:
I think Martin said chain is in trunk.
I would assume that the nighly bulids would then have chain in there,
and that it not be a separate download?
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I would assume that the nighly bulids would then have chain in there,
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When you start looking at configuration for defining procedures, it can
get messy quick - just look at Jelly. Many would argue XML is just not
a good fit for procedural code/definitions.
Good argument.
Even if you liked XML for
procedural configuration, I'm not sure chain's
I think you will get a lot more feedback at the Apache MyFaces, A Struts
siter project.
Consider posting there.
http://www.marinschek.com/myfaces/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=MailingLists
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Dakota Jack wrote:
Is there a potential useful and reasonable rewrite of JSF so that
the sort of navigation
My thoughts, based on my experience, with
ActionComand(Map/Context)
which is full of benefits which I will list:
I did something like this before Ziff, mostly to avoid a common Struts
user mistake (putting properties in action class and creating a thread
safety issue) such as pseudo code impl:
Joe Germuska wrote:
Perhaps the catalog initialization belongs in the ActionServlet (via
init params), so that the servlet
If init catalog is in just a base class of something, than chains could
be used outside of Servlet container. (One day there will be SoA
containers for example).
* The
Joe Germuska wrote:
the ActionServlet initialize one or more catalogs meant for use
with Struts
and still having other things initialize catalogs for their
own use.
Yeah, 2 ways to init, of course.
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I used to catch grief for that, but I still put it in Best Practices.
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Dakota Jack wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 08:47:39 -0500, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Consider a populate method on ActionForm. From an OOP standpoint, it might be cleaner
if an ActionForm populated itself rather than
Niall Pemberton wrote:
to include this in the last 1.2 release.
It does not have to be last 1.2, still could have 1.27 :-).
(and maybeee 1.3 should be called 1.4, just in case, it is a big
change).
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not on Struts dev list.
Most pople have cusotm jars and custom paths, so that is a bad way to
import classspath settings.
Try projet settings by right clicking on project name.
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Brij Naald wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for the
1.3 is chain based and drop Tomcat 3?! COOL!!!
I can hardly wait for the nighly builds.
Thanks all.
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Martin Cooper wrote:
Folks,
The SVN repo is now ready for work on Struts 1.3 to begin. All 1.3 work
should happen on 'trunk', while fixes to 1.2.x should happen on the
branch named
http://www.magnolia.info/en/community/about/screenshots.html
Watch the video.
It does not have to be called Struts, but I think that is what people
what. I also think they want JDNC (not by name).
As people decide what to build, I think supporting above features is
important.
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Dakota Jack wrote:
Magnolia seems to be oriented to developers whereas JDNC is oriented
to clients/users.
First we used to write frameworks, then we used frameworks, and now we
customize applications.
I am working on CMS w/ JDNC, an application that people can customize.
Which connection are
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It also said that 1.26 would be tested against Tomcat 4 and Tomcat 5 ,
but not Tomcat 3.
If so then bean and logic could be marked for deprecation (due to jstl
If you ask on user list somone might say something about how to get a
referer
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John Vincent wrote:
Need one Struts app, but must have multiple URLs.
Thus
http://www.jv.com/company1
http://www.jv.com/company2
actually start the same Struts app, say
http://www.jv.com/myApp
but must pass
Is there a wiki post on how to do subversion check out for anon?
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One example use that I am doing based on the Struts-Chain example:
SoA access (via Hessian and a chain dispatcher) to Apache JackRabit CMS.
W SoA, you can call from any API (Tiles, Portlet, JSTL, JSP, Servlet...
any Java. or non Java, like C++). It's just a call that happens to
dispatch and
Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
Craig,
Btw. like Michael, I am interessted in your proposals on
Struts 2.0 too :)
Checkout this:
http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/jakarta-struts/contrib/struts-chain
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Niall Pemberton wrote:
Michael,
Could you use the Preview button (just to the right of the Save Changes
button) to check what your wiki page
please patch as per user thread: Struts 1.2.2/1.2.3 struts-examples.war
not working w/ a solution in there.
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Michael Rasmussen wrote:
As far as the struts roadmap for 2.x I would say that it is fairly
vague for anyone setting out to develop an initial codebase.
Have you not looked at the initial code base of the Struts chain already
in CVS?
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It
mentions supporting JSF, it talks about portlets, and
Can you keep using 1.2.3?
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Frank Zammetti wrote:
Ironic as it seems to myself to be saying it, I don't think I like the
idea of Struts moving to newer spec/JDK versions just yet.
Here at work, most of our development is now Struts-based, and much of
it is moving to IBM Portal Server.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
snip
focused on the revolution approach rather than evolution.
That's not to say that we (as a project) can't do both in parallel.
Ted wrote: Hopefully, initiatives like Struts Chain and Portlet
support will help us make the HTTP layer an integration layer, rather
This project looks parked. Only one active comitter begging people for
help to relase at least.
The high standard to become a comitter should address something about
active comitter. Months of no CVS?
It might be to late to find (the low standard )others that would want
in, now.
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My answer was to MC. But I was always thinking about forking Struts on
sf.net under apache license. (remove bean and logic tag for one, and
make an easy ant build )
I just poinetd out that the club (personality cult?) is not active IMO.
You think it is active or you know of a reason that it's
Errr. what I meant was get the cvs of the struts site. Then update the
html that point to the old slides.
Then post the diff as a bug ticket in bugzila.
Then a comitter just accepts and done.
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I would like to update the powerpoint slides on the resources page, as
Michael McGrady wrote:
Jones, Demian wrote:
PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THIS MAILING
I have been forwarding these to his boss. I thought that might be the
fastest way to help him get off the list? Help the guy out.
Yup, that is the fastest way for him to get of the list, if his boss
shows him how
http://www.mozilla.org/press/mozilla-2004-08-10.html
For those people who are still interested in legacy html and are not
doing Rich UI yet. ;-)
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Michael McGrady wrote:
I am on the cheap in Eudora and cannot see html tags in messages from
the list. I cannot find the setting that turns this on or off. Anyone
know
Sounds very cool!
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Ted Husted wrote:
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One thing I'd like to do first is to link our Acquiring page to the Apache mirroring system, so that the distribution hooks up to the preferred place. I haven't looked into how that is done yet. If anyone else has a clue, please feel free to jump in.
Craig McClanahan wrote:
* Focus the new repository on supporting 1.3.x development
(generally backwards compatibile, but using chain-based
request processor, adding support for portlet), in prep for
later migration to 2.x.x development (which might end up
in either separate modules or a separate
Tomcat is listed as beta and is in GA area.
What I said specificaly was in the milestone area on bottom of that
page. It would help users find it.
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Craig McClanahan wrote:
Vic Cekvenich wrote:
GREAT!
Does this post it on the downloads pages as a milestone? 'cuase
1.2.0 was not listed
#2 I think.
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Ted Husted wrote:
The repository is tagged for STRUTS_1_2_1, and the release is available for review at
* http://www.apache.org/~husted/struts/v1.2.1
Once you have had a chance to review the release, please respond as to whether we should
[ ] Keep this release at Alpha.
There are knowledgeable people currently active on user list, people
that wrote books, tutorials and papers, people that are writing
frameworks and extensions on Struts, should you want more activity, if
the current commit-ers are busy.
It's the right thing to do, I can think of about 10 one
what are the plans for struts?
should you add active developers interested in keeping up?
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Vic Cekvenich wrote:
Tiles used to work outside of Struts when it was first introduced, but
could be rigged to work with Struts. IMO, all tags should be deprecated
outside of Struts to taglibs, except for HTML legacy.
FYI:
http://www.basicportal.com/bp/download/cms.PNG
This is a link
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