Re: [S2] Struts 2.0.8 release manager (was PROPOSAL: s1 modules module)

2007-05-01 Thread James Mitchell
Ted, I'll work on the 2.0.8 tickets for now. I'd like to resolve everything on the 'Struts 2.0.8 TODO' page. Next, I'd like to step up and release 2.0.8. At this time, I'm not sure about a time table. I'll post back as soon as the time frame is set. Personally, I'm winding down

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-29 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/29/07, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on the emails, it sounds like having a module for various integration libraries is preferred. A separate module for each new integration library, yes. Fine by me. How can we get the proposal to out of the think tank and into SVN?

Re: [S2] Struts 2.0.8 release manager (was PROPOSAL: s1 modules module)

2007-04-26 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/4/26, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]: If we're not going on to 2.0.9, then the JIRA stuff is mainly done. We'd just need to bulk-change whatever we don't close in 2.0.8 to 2.1.0. Currently the Tiles 2 plugin depends on Tiles 2.0.1, but since Tiles 2.0.3 is going to be released (well in fact

Re: [S2] Struts 2.0.8 release manager (was PROPOSAL: s1 modules module)

2007-04-26 Thread Ted Husted
If need be, we could also release a plugin separately. The JARs are built separately, we just glom it all together as an administrative convenience. If someone wanted to re-roll the Tiles plugin against a new Tiles 2 build and call it release 2.0.8.1, that would be simple to do. On 4/26/07,

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-23 Thread Paul Benedict
On 4/22/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/22/07, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all integrations were projects on themselves, this would not happen. This is due probably to the fact that Struts 2 did not use the Maven release plugin, and I think that we need to use

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-23 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/4/22, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 4/22/07, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all integrations were projects on themselves, this would not happen. This is due probably to the fact that Struts 2 did not use the Maven release plugin, and I think that we need to use it since

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-23 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/4/23, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I totally agree, even to this day, that breaking out Struts 1 modules into independent releases is a bad idea. Why? Because it's essentially the framework spread across separate jars, and those truly have tight cohesion. Isn't it a problem of

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-23 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/23/07, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably because making releases is (or better was) a painful operation. What if with 2 mere commands you created a release? The Struts 2 process is documented here: *

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-23 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/4/23, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 4/23/07, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Probably because making releases is (or better was) a painful operation. What if with 2 mere commands you created a release? The Struts 2 process is documented here: *

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-22 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2007/4/21, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am proposing a new module for Struts 1.x called modules which would contain integration classes into popular open source libraries. For starters, it would contain a new command to let Spring wire up the CRP using a command. Sorry for jumping in too

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-22 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/22/07, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We already have a plug-in system in 1.x. I don't think I want to develop plugins -- but I do want to provide a standard community library for integration classes. We have a filter-like interface that we named plugin, but I wouldn't call it a

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-22 Thread Ted Husted
On 4/22/07, Antonio Petrelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all integrations were projects on themselves, this would not happen. This is due probably to the fact that Struts 2 did not use the Maven release plugin, and I think that we need to use it since it forces us to follow the correct way of

PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Paul Benedict
I am proposing a new module for Struts 1.x called modules which would contain integration classes into popular open source libraries. For starters, it would contain a new command to let Spring wire up the CRP using a command. Paul

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Wendy Smoak
On 4/21/07, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am proposing a new module for Struts 1.x called modules which would contain integration classes into popular open source libraries. For starters, it would contain a new command to let Spring wire up the CRP using a command. I would suggest

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Paul Benedict
Wendy, I was thinking of the first. On 4/21/07, Wendy Smoak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/21/07, Paul Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am proposing a new module for Struts 1.x called modules which would contain integration classes into popular open source libraries. For starters, it

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Martin Cooper
First off, calling this modules would be very confusing, since Struts 1 already has a concept of modules that is not at all related to what you are looking to create. Since the purpose is integration with other libraries, I would suggest integration. Second, I would strongly recommend against

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Paul Benedict
Martin, Point taken on the module naming: integration is better. Can you your focus on the baggage? With maven 2, dependencies can be marked as optional. They all have to be there when compiling the source, but not when depending on the library. Paul On 4/21/07, Martin Cooper [EMAIL

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Martin Cooper
I'll assume that explain was intended between you and your. ;-) In response to Wendy's question, you indicated that you are proposing one jar that includes the integration for multiple external libraries. If I want integration with Spring, for example, and not the other external libraries, Maven

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Paul Benedict
I am fine either way. Thanks for explain-ing :-) On 4/21/07, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll assume that explain was intended between you and your. ;-) In response to Wendy's question, you indicated that you are proposing one jar that includes the integration for multiple external

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Ted Husted
Another popular term for something like this is extras. So, there might be a Struts 1 Spring Extras JAR and maybe a Struts 1 JasperReports Extras JARs. A key problem with an omnibus JAR isn't so much the other classes (that the JVM wouldn't load) or the dependencies (that Maven wouldn't import),

Re: PROPOSAL: s1 modules module

2007-04-21 Thread Paul Benedict
On 4/21/07, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A key problem with an omnibus JAR isn't so much the other classes (that the JVM wouldn't load) or the dependencies (that Maven wouldn't import), but just handling the logging statements. In practice, the optional code might want to try and