[Bug 691913] ocaml-camlp5 pretty printer bug

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691913 --- Comment #2 from Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com 2011-03-30 08:45:13 EDT --- Jerry, if you are in the Fedora packager

[Bug 691896] gas: .size expression does not evaluate to a constant

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691896 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: Bluetooth service - was manually fixing IPs

2011-03-30 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:34:39 -0500 Ian Pilcher wrote: On 03/29/2011 03:01 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Can you paste the kmsg context of the starting please? [ 42.087581] systemd[1]: Got D-Bus activation request for bluetooth.service The bluez D-Bus service activates bluetooth.service

Re: Compiz crashes after plugging in external monitor

2011-03-30 Thread valent.turko...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:56 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Marko, glad to see compiz working for you. In the meanwhile I found this bug already reported: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=653085 So anybody please join in if you have this

Re: Compiz crashes after plugging in external monitor

2011-03-30 Thread drago01
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:57 AM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:56 PM, valent.turko...@gmail.com valent.turko...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Marko, glad to see compiz working for you. In the meanwhile I found this bug already reported:

Proven testers for Lua update

2011-03-30 Thread Tim Niemueller
Hi fellow Fedorans. I'd like to push a minor update of Lua, which incorporates a small bugfix patch, and some cosmetic fixes to the builds script. First testing by a proven tester has been done successfully, but I need more testing to be able to push it, please have a look, try it and comment:

What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. It's a fairly minor technical change, though presumably people consider

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. It's a fairly minor

[perl-Package-Stash/f15/master] Update to 0.28

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 3b22373... Update to 0.28 (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/3/30 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what

[perl-Package-Stash] Created tag perl-Package-Stash-0.28-1.fc15

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Package-Stash-0.28-1.fc15' was created pointing to: 3b22373... Update to 0.28 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/30/2011 02:10 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/3/30 Ralf Corsepiusrc040...@freenet.de: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or

[perl-Package-Stash] Created tag perl-Package-Stash-0.28-1.fc16

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Package-Stash-0.28-1.fc16' was created pointing to: 3b22373... Update to 0.28 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Perl-Critic] Tidy up changelog entries

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 4752cd705e37cfe05a705c2444e5fff5c8b34214 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Sun Mar 27 14:53:53 2011 +0100 Tidy up changelog entries perl-Perl-Critic.spec |6 +++--- 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic.spec

[perl-Perl-Critic] Update to 1.114

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 8d08a157e5cd0bc91e679e82130af91876657251 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Tue Mar 29 13:06:27 2011 +0100 Update to 1.114 - New upstream release 1.114: - Documentation::RequirePodLinksIncludeText now handles nested POD formatting (CPAN RT#65569)

[perl-Perl-Critic] Drop redundant (for modern rpm) BuildRoot tag and buildroot cleaning

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit f7d19979d285f3a7e9cadd80594332363f5dbd9b Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Tue Mar 29 13:16:09 2011 +0100 Drop redundant (for modern rpm) BuildRoot tag and buildroot cleaning perl-Perl-Critic.spec | 11 +++ 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-) ---

[perl-Perl-Critic] Split Test::Perl::Critic::Policy off into its own package

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 0bc1d1f650a3bdd7a856e2855792208bc0031fc7 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Tue Mar 29 13:31:19 2011 +0100 Split Test::Perl::Critic::Policy off into its own package perl-Perl-Critic.spec | 27 +++ 1 files changed, 23 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

[perl-Perl-Critic] Tidy dependencies and add --with authortests build option

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 2868c631b83d5485b99bf59454790c74c7ba66f5 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Wed Mar 30 09:23:02 2011 +0100 Tidy dependencies and add --with authortests build option - BR/R: optional modules perl(Readonly::XS), perl(Term::ANSIColor) = 2.02 - BR: perl(Pod::Spell)

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 14:04, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it,

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 03/30/2011 02:04 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Ralf Corsepius wote: It's a massive FHS violation = release blocker. who cares ? also /cgroup /selinux /sys /debug ... FHS is frozen since seven years ago. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/30/2011 05:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what

[Bug 677888] perl-Perl-Critic-1.114 is available

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677888 Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 18:04, Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) wrote: On 03/30/2011 05:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most

[Bug 676688] Upgrade coq to version 8.3

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=676688 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 01:54:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: The actual code changes we needed to implement this scheme were trivial (basically, just bind mount /var/run and /var/lock instead of mounting two new tmpfs' to them.), which is why we opted to do this so late in the F15

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 01:54:30 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is.

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Lennart Poettering wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are allowed? I can't find that. And hence this change is perfectly FHS compliant. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#PURPOSE2 Applications must never create or

GPU hanging(?) with latest mesa packages

2011-03-30 Thread Ian Pilcher
I just tried the new mesa* packages in Fedora 15 updates-testing on my Sandy Bridge (Core i7 2600) system, and the results were not pretty. X was completely unusable, with both of my screens flashing solid black every few seconds. These messages appeared in the syslog: Mar 30 06:24:23 ian

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/30/2011 06:00 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are allowed? I can't find that. And hence this change is perfectly FHS compliant. Added to the release notes

[Bug 691896] gas: .size expression does not evaluate to a constant

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691896 --- Comment #3 from Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com 2011-03-30 08:38:17 EDT --- Thanks, I will apply:

This *is* FHS compliant [was Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?]

2011-03-30 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 02:30:40PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are allowed? I can't find that. And hence this change is perfectly FHS compliant. More than that, it's explicitly allowed. So we're

Re: GPU hanging(?) with latest mesa packages

2011-03-30 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2011/3/30 Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com: I just tried the new mesa* packages in Fedora 15 updates-testing on my Sandy Bridge (Core i7 2600) system, and the results were not pretty. X was completely unusable, with both of my screens flashing solid black every few seconds. I

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 03/30/2011 01:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:10 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/3/30 Ralf Corsepiusrc040...@freenet.de: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 30 mars 2011 14:04, Ralf Corsepius a écrit : On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 14:11 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:10 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/3/30 Ralf Corsepiusrc040...@freenet.de: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 30 mars 2011 14:30, Lennart Poettering a écrit : Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are allowed? I can't find that. And hence this change is perfectly FHS compliant. % Applications must never create or require special

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Nicolas Mailhot nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: The FHS is about having major distros agree about file locations, and documenting the result. Which seems to be exactly what happened here. Well, documentation on a mailing list is fine for F15, but it really

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/30/2011 02:42 PM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:11 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:10 PM, Michał Piotrowski wrote: 2011/3/30 Ralf Corsepiusrc040...@freenet.de: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into

[Bug 691896] gas: .size expression does not evaluate to a constant

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691896 --- Comment #5 from Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com 2011-03-30 09:02:56 EDT --- Also ported it to F15:

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Alasdair G Kergon
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 08:36:38AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: No flames from me. This is a sensible, thought-through change with cross-distro buy-in and no major downsides. It is outside of the FHS, but is in the _spirit_ of it, and would fit into an updated release of the standard, if there

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/30/2011 02:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 01:54:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: The actual code changes we needed to implement this scheme were trivial (basically, just bind mount /var/run and /var/lock instead of mounting two new tmpfs' to them.), which is

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/30/2011 02:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 18:04, Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are allowed? I can't find that. And hence this change is perfectly FHS compliant.

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2011 15:05, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: No flames from me. This is a sensible, thought-through change with cross-distro buy-in and no major downsides. I could not disagree more. without any argument? if all distributions agree with it where exactly do you have a problem? After 7 years

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 03/30/2011 02:08 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 18:04, Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are allowed? I can't find that.

[Bug 691896] gas: .size expression does not evaluate to a constant

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691896 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-03-30 09:14:51 EDT --- ocaml-3.12.0-5.fc15 has been

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Alasdair G Kergon
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 03:05:35PM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:36 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: It is outside of the FHS, It's a clear violation of the FHS. Indeed, but there really is no suitable FHS-compliant location for files of these types, so we had no choice but to

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 15:08, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 18:04, Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other directories below / are

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread R P Herrold
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Rahul Sundaram wrote: There are many directories already in Fedora that are not defined by FHS and even though we have asked them to update it (libexec, /selinux /sys etc), there is noone maintaining it. This is stunningly untrue. I've worked for years in the fields

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Russ herrold wrote: On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Rahul Sundaram wrote: There are many directories already in Fedora that are not defined by FHS and even though we have asked them to update it (libexec, /selinux /sys etc), there is noone maintaining it. This is stunningly untrue. I've worked for

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 15:03, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote: I also don't think you can really justify the massive qualifier in your assertion. The actual text of the (7 year old) FHS has this to say: 7 year old doesn't mean obsolete and doesn't mean to adopt any crack ridden idea

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 7:54 AM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: With this upload Fedora and Suse have already adopted /run now. Debian folks will suggest this for their coming release. Ubuntu has agreed with introducing /run as well. Bravo! m --  martin.langh...@gmail.com  

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 15:08, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 18:04, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Also, can somebody point me to the place where the FHS would say no other

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 04:05:27 PM Orcan Ogetbil wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 15:08, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:30 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 18:04, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Also, can

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/30/2011 07:00 PM, R P Herrold wrote: This is stunningly untrue. I've worked for years in the fields of LSB, FHS and LANANA to make sure there are traceable paths for such requests. Post the URLs to your bugs in the LSB / LF tracker if you assert you have done such

[perl-Gtk2] 1.223

2011-03-30 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 9180174161f5fd90971a01eaa80b60b406ab8bd4 Author: Tom spot Callaway tcall...@redhat.com Date: Wed Mar 30 10:21:00 2011 -0400 1.223 .gitignore |1 + perl-Gtk2.spec | 15 ++- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-) --- diff

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 19:56, Rahul Sundaram (methe...@gmail.com) wrote: On 03/30/2011 07:00 PM, R P Herrold wrote: This is stunningly untrue. I've worked for years in the fields of LSB, FHS and LANANA to make sure there are traceable paths for such requests. Post the URLs to your bugs in

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 01:54:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: SNIP So, this is what is implemented for F15 now. For F16 we will make a minor change on top of this: /var/run and /var/lock will become symlinks to /run (resp /run/lock), so that we don't have to use bind mounts anymore which

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 09:35, Adam Miller (maxamill...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: Again, I'm not against that this is being done, but I would like to see everyone equally follow suit on the way things are traditionally done in Fedora land. Well, the technical change is actually minimal, and this is

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 30.03.11 13:54, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: With this upload Fedora and Suse have already adopted /run now. Debian folks will suggest this for their coming release. Ubuntu has agreed with introducing /run as well. I guess I need to clarify this. Ubuntu actually

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Wed, 30.03.11 09:35, Adam Miller (maxamill...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: Again, I'm not against that this is being done, but I would like to see everyone equally follow suit on the way things are traditionally

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Chris Lumens
I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. On behalf of everyone at anaconda, thanks for fixing something we've all

Power Management Test Day (2011-03-24) recap

2011-03-30 Thread Jaroslav Skarvada
Hi, thanks all for participation in Power Management Test Day - we received great response. If you missed the event, you can still participate (all feedback is very valuable for us): http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-03-24 PM Test Day Stats: 28 unique participants 27 unique

Re: Bluetooth service - was manually fixing IPs

2011-03-30 Thread Bill Nottingham
Michal Schmidt (mschm...@redhat.com) said: Compare this with org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service which uses an indirect alias that can be enabled/disabled by systemctl: SystemdService=dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service This was discussed in February on systemd-devel:

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 30.03.2011 13:54, schrieb Lennart Poettering: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. dracut and udev

libedit update needs karma

2011-03-30 Thread Jerry James
Hi all, The latest libedit update is CRITPATH, so it needs some karma. The direct consumers of libedit, if my repoquery-fu is up to the task, are the following, with their maintainers listed first, followed by comaintainers: Io-language: limb asterisk: jcollie, fabbione, itamarjp ceph: josef,

Re: Guile 2.0.0

2011-03-30 Thread Miroslav Lichvar
On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 08:05:49PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: On 03/08/2011 06:46 PM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote: Hi, guile-2.0.0 has been released, there are some important changes. - The license changed from LGPLv2+ to LGPLv3+. Looks like that could cause some licensing issues:

[Bug 691913] ocaml-camlp5 pretty printer bug

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691913 --- Comment #3 from Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com 2011-03-30 12:52:52 EDT --- (In reply to comment #2) Jerry, if you are in

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 14:16 +0200, Jiri Moskovcak wrote: On 03/30/2011 02:04 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 03/30/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 09:35 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: Again, I'm not against that this is being done, but I would like to see everyone equally follow suit on the way things are traditionally done in Fedora land. Well, up to a point, Lord Copper. We have a features process with lots of

Re: libedit update needs karma

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:34 -0600, Jerry James wrote: Hi all, The latest libedit update is CRITPATH, so it needs some karma. The direct consumers of libedit, if my repoquery-fu is up to the task, are the following, with their maintainers listed first, followed by comaintainers:

[Bug 590074] RFE : please build perl-Net-CUPS for EPEL

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 590074] RFE : please build perl-Net-CUPS for EPEL

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
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Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: There are many directories already in Fedora that are not defined by FHS and even though we have asked them to update it (libexec, /selinux /sys etc), there is noone maintaining it. FWIW, libexec can be argued not to be a violation of the current FHS, because the FHS

[Bug 590074] RFE : please build perl-Net-CUPS for EPEL

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=590074 --- Comment #9 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org 2011-03-30 13:32:49 EDT --- perl-Net-CUPS-0.61-3.el6 has

[Bug 590074] RFE : please build perl-Net-CUPS for EPEL

2011-03-30 Thread bugzilla
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Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Miller
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:24:42AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 09:35 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: Again, I'm not against that this is being done, but I would like to see everyone equally follow suit on the way things are traditionally done in Fedora land. Well, up

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread John Reiser
On 03/30/2011 10:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: It's perfectly possible, and has been done lots of times, to simply go ahead and commit significant changes that _could_ have been 'features', not submit them as features, and happily bypass the entire 'feature' process with all its bureaucracy.

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Martin Langhoff
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Adam Miller maxamill...@fedoraproject.org wrote: however, a little concerned with the precedence it is either creating or following in the path of. This has behind is something IMHO bigger than FESCo: the agreement of key maintainers across distros. That's hard

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 12:49 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:24:42AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 09:35 -0500, Adam Miller wrote: Again, I'm not against that this is being done, but I would like to see everyone equally follow suit on the way

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:55 -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 03/30/2011 10:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: It's perfectly possible, and has been done lots of times, to simply go ahead and commit significant changes that _could_ have been 'features', not submit them as features, and happily bypass

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/30/2011 11:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:55 -0700, John Reiser wrote: Please give specific examples that previously evaded the 'feature' process. I have better things to do than spend my morning looking through old changelogs and freeze dates, thanks. Are you

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 03/30/2011 07:54 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: Heya, I just uploaded a new version of systemd into F15, which establishes a directory /run in the root directory. Most likely you'll sooner or later stumble over it, so here's an explanation what this is and why this is. It's a fairly minor

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 23:42 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 03/30/2011 11:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:55 -0700, John Reiser wrote: Please give specific examples that previously evaded the 'feature' process. I have better things to do than spend my morning looking

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:08 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/30/2011 11:19 PM, Adam Miller wrote: So we should disband FESCo and just let everyone commit whatever changes they want without oversight or community inclusion and just hope it builds and runs in the end? Yes,  

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread John Reiser
On 03/30/2011 11:01 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:55 -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 03/30/2011 10:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: It's perfectly possible, and has been done lots of times, to simply go ahead and commit significant changes that _could_ have been 'features',

Re: Axel Thimm: Unresponsive maintainer?

2011-03-30 Thread Eric Sandeen
On 03/26/2011 12:52 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. Does anyone have a means to contact Axel Thimm and confirm he's ok and if he wishes to maintain his packages in Fedora moving forward? (I've cc'ed him on this as well). As far as OK at least, he seems to have been OK on Mon Mar 28

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 11:16 -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 03/30/2011 11:01 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 10:55 -0700, John Reiser wrote: On 03/30/2011 10:24 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: It's perfectly possible, and has been done lots of times, to simply go ahead and commit

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 20:16 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: FHS does not require every RPM package to not add arbitrary directories, but Fedora packaging guidelines do. We have a packaging standard. This change violates that packaging standard, so there are three possibilities: Can you cite

Re: Axel Thimm: Unresponsive maintainer?

2011-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 13:20:55 -0500 Eric Sandeen sand...@redhat.com wrote: On 03/26/2011 12:52 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. Does anyone have a means to contact Axel Thimm and confirm he's ok and if he wishes to maintain his packages in Fedora moving forward? (I've cc'ed him on

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2011 20:01, schrieb Adam Williamson: Please give specific examples that previously evaded the 'feature' process. I have better things to do than spend my morning looking through old changelogs and freeze dates, thanks. Are you really suggesting it's never happened? if you have no

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-03-30)

2011-03-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2011-03-30) === Meeting started by nirik at 17:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2011-03-30/fesco.2011-03-30-17.30.log.html Meeting summary

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2011-03-30 at 20:16 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: FHS does not require every RPM package to not add arbitrary directories, but Fedora packaging guidelines do.  We have a packaging standard.  This change

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/31/2011 12:00 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: so please do the better things instead flaming here about a single folder which introducing is not political correct enough for your eyes Pretty sure you completely misunderstood Adam Williamson. He has not flamed anybody. Rahul -- devel

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/31/2011 12:01 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: What more would you want? Fedora packages must follow the FHS. 'Must follow' means that if you don't follow it you violate it? But FHS permits this change to be done by distributions. All it says is that it should be carefully considered. Rahul

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/31/2011 12:01 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: What more would you want?  Fedora packages must follow the FHS. 'Must follow' means that if you don't follow it you violate it? But FHS permits this change to be done by

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.03.2011 20:44, schrieb Rahul Sundaram: On 03/31/2011 12:01 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: What more would you want? Fedora packages must follow the FHS. 'Must follow' means that if you don't follow it you violate it? But FHS permits this change to be done by distributions. All it says is

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2011-03-31 at 00:14 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 03/31/2011 12:01 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: What more would you want? Fedora packages must follow the FHS. 'Must follow' means that if you don't follow it you violate it? But FHS permits this change to be done by distributions.

[perl-Devel-Cycle] Created tag perl-Devel-Cycle-1.07-1.el4

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Devel-Cycle-1.07-1.el4' was created pointing to: 2eb04c9... Merge branch 'el4' into el5 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: What's this /run directory doing on my system and where does it come from?

2011-03-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/31/2011 12:09 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: Sure, and the distribution in question does such changes - via its packaging guidelines. It might be obvious to you that this change requires a packaging guideline but that requirement is not well documented and is not mandated by what you are

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