Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Robert Mayr
2013/2/1 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Yes, defaults needs to be sensible and usable and for many people that's what they end up with. I'm not saying we should go and have AOO installed by default, but available in repos in a state that does not conflict with LO (and other office

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:34 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: 2013/2/1 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Yes, defaults needs to be sensible and usable and for many people that's what they end up with. I'm not saying we should go and have AOO

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill Notting butting into my work ( and I know what that means ), trying to come up with his own list instead of simply

Re: using rpms for non-root installs

2013-02-01 Thread Stephan Bergmann
On 01/31/2013 08:40 AM, Michael Stahnke wrote: You actually may have an option. It's dirty, and here be dragons. I know this from working on RPM on AIX, so again, it's hacky. I did this on a CentOS 6.3 box for my example, should work on Fedora. You can do something like: ls

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 29.01.2013 17:20, schrieb John Reiser: A generic fallback image should be installed by anaconda on installation/update and never ever be removed. Also, fallback has interesting security properties… Rescue mode forces a SELinux relabel at the next boot, and relabel can take a very

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 29.01.2013 19:28, schrieb Daniel J Walsh: On 01/29/2013 11:20 AM, John Reiser wrote: A generic fallback image should be installed by anaconda on installation/update and never ever be removed. Also, fallback has interesting security properties… Rescue mode forces a SELinux relabel at

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 29.01.2013 16:53, schrieb Dennis Gilmore: El Tue, 29 Jan 2013 14:45:34 + Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com escribió: = Features/DracutHostOnly = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly Feature owner(s): Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com Only create host-only initramfs

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 30.01.2013 00:22, schrieb Dennis Gilmore: On Tue, 29 Jan 2013 16:32:12 + Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 09:53:32AM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote: as legal has said we cannot pregenerate initramfses i think this should be a non-starter. We already

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Martin Sourada
On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:38:19 +0100 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:34 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: 2013/2/1 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Yes, defaults needs to be sensible and usable and for many people that's what

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:41 +0100, Martin Sourada wrote: On Fri, 01 Feb 2013 09:38:19 +0100 Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 09:34 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote: 2013/2/1 Martin Sourada martin.sour...@gmail.com Yes, defaults needs to be sensible

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: firewalld Rich Language

2013-02-01 Thread Thomas Woerner
On 02/01/2013 04:43 AM, Scott Schmit wrote: On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 12:56:18PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/FirewalldRichLanguage = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FirewalldRichLanguage Feature owner(s): Thomas Woerner twoer...@redhat.com This feature adds a rich (high

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: OpenAttestation

2013-02-01 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Wei, Gang gang@intel.com wrote: Josh Boyer wrote on 2013-02-01: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Wei, Gang gang@intel.com wrote: Bill Nottingham wrote on 2013-01-29: Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: = Features/OpenAttestation =

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2013-01-31, 22:07 GMT, Chris Adams wrote: I'm not saying having both is a bad thing, but I would like to think that there's some thought given to does Fedora gain from having both, since there is a cost involved. We don’t (unfortunately?) have policy to stop somebody from packaging

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Apache OpenOffice

2013-02-01 Thread Fernando Nasser
What about dependency conflicts? Which one will determine the version of the dependencies? I think it will have to be the current existing OO right? So the new one, if added, must build and run with any shared dependency at the original one levels. Makes sense? --Fernando - Original

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 11:37, schrieb Harald Hoyer: Am 29.01.2013 16:53, schrieb Dennis Gilmore: as legal has said we cannot pregenerate initramfses i think this should be a non-starter. even loading a 20mb initramfs from a sdcard on a slow arm box doesnt take that long, and id personally much rather

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: High Availability Container Resources

2013-02-01 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/29/2013 03:17 PM, Glauber Costa wrote: = Features/ High Availability Container Resources = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/High_Availability_Container_Resources Feature owner(s): David Vossel dvos...@redhat.com The Container

Re: rawhide report: 20130201 changes

2013-02-01 Thread पराग़
Hi, I have fixed libicu broken dependencies for following packages 389-admin 389-ds-base 389-dsgw ibus-qt idzebra libcommuni libircclient-qt msort pam_mapi sword yaz zarafa Regards, Parag. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill Notting butting into my work ( and I know what

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 30 Jan 2013, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On 2013-01-29, 22:52 GMT, Michael Scherer wrote: I am delighted to announce you that Red Hat has a policy of not tolerating drugs on the work place. So you should be utterly relieved to know that no people posting here with a @redhat.com email should

[Bug 893916] perl-DBD-CSV-0.38 is available

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893916 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Clone-0.34-1.fc18, perl-DBI-1.623-1.fc18, perl-DBD-CSV-0.38-1.fc18 has been pushed to the Fedora 18 stable repository. If problems still persist, please

[Bug 893916] perl-DBD-CSV-0.38 is available

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893916 Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:46 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: in this case you have already the following because on virtual machines it is very unlikely that hardware fundenemtally changes Porting machines from one virt system to another isn't that unusual, and that can cause the hardware to

Fairly serious GCC 4.8 Ada regression

2013-02-01 Thread Orion Poplawski
GCC 4.8 seems to have a fairly serious regression with regards to converting Long_Float to Integer: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906516 There aren't many ada using packages in in Fedora, but this is affecting plplot. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Hughes
On 01/02/13 17:20, Paul Wouters wrote: Now if only cannot display date with the time in top panel could be a gnome3 blocker bug, that would be one less gnome3 issue. You know you can turn the date on with gnome-tweak-tool right? or just with this: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-01 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Paul Wouters pwout...@redhat.com wrote: Now if only cannot display date with the time in top panel could be a gnome3 blocker bug, that would be one less gnome3 issue. The other major one of notifications being seemingly overengineered while still being pretty

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: Now if only cannot display date with the time in top panel could be a gnome3 blocker bug, that would be one less gnome3 issue. The other major one of notifications being seemingly overengineered while still being pretty useless

Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/Virtio RNG = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Virtio_RNG Feature owner(s): Cole Robinson crobi...@redhat.com, Amit Shah amit.s...@redhat.com Provide a paravirtual random number generator to virtual machines, to prevent entropy starvation in guests. == Detailed description

Proposed F19 Feature: Usermode Migration

2013-02-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/UsermodeMigration = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/UsermodeMigration Feature owner(s): Harald Hoyer har...@redhat.com, Kay Sievers k...@redhat.com, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com Access control of privileged operations for ordinary users should be handled exclusively

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson And Bills behavior towards me has been so civilized through out the years. If he leaves me and my work alone and general stays away from me maybe I will... You are just proving David Tardon's point here. You have no monopoly on

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Dracut HostOnly

2013-02-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.02.2013 18:22, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 11:46 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: in this case you have already the following because on virtual machines it is very unlikely that hardware fundenemtally changes Porting machines from one virt system to another isn't

Proposed F19 Feature: System Configuration Shell

2013-02-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/SystemConfigurationShell = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemConfigurationShell Feature owner(s): Tom Schwaller tom dot schwaller at web dot de The System Configuration Shell System provides an easy to use interactive command line interface with a standardized syntax to

Proposed F19 Feature: Virt Storage Migration

2013-02-01 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/Virt Storage Migration = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Virt_Storage_Migration Feature owner(s): Cole Robinson crobi...@redhat.com, Paolo Bonzini pbonz...@redhat.com Migrate a running virtual machine from one host to another, including in use storage, with no downtime. No

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 07:14 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson And Bills behavior towards me has been so civilized through out the years. If he leaves me and my work alone and general stays away from me maybe I will... You are just proving David

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 07:28:56PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I personally would have preferred people waiting and giving me the chance to go through all the cron jobs and make my presentation and findings to fesco then afterwards discuss the merits of making the switch for the cron

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I dont mind everyone else opinions and criticism or help staying in and out of my works and what not except Bill's after the treatment he has given me over the years. I have no idea what treatment you are talking about.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: And in the midst of me doing this research I have to have Bill

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 07:35 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 07:28:56PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I personally would have preferred people waiting and giving me the chance to go through all the cron jobs and make my presentation and findings to fesco then afterwards discuss

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 07:41 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I dont mind everyone else opinions and criticism or help staying in and out of my works and what not except Bill's after the treatment he has given me over the years. I

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.comwrote: On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, Jóhann B.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 07:39:48PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I really don't understand how it hurts to have multiple people look at the information. The plan was to gather that information and give people something to actually look at. So... more information is good, right? --

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: I dont know if that group actually is active and on one of the group when it got formed it was proposed that Red Hat employees would get *special* treatment within the project and the CWG would speak with their *managers* so much

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 08:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Again, your complaint here seems very vague. Please provide references. If there is a complaint about someone working in a company that itself is involved in the project, it is not unexpected it will get escalated to their manager to help

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson You can go yourself through the community working log meetings to find my reference. I would expect RH employee ( and other corporation's employee ) sitting at the same table as their community brethren's and not having to worries

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: System Configuration Shell

2013-02-01 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/31/2013 02:08 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Features/SystemConfigurationShell = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemConfigurationShell Feature owner(s): Tom Schwaller tom dot schwaller at web dot de The System Configuration

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: High Availability Container Resources

2013-02-01 Thread David Vossel
- Original Message - From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com To: Development discussions related to Fedora devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 10:09:27 AM Subject: Re: Proposed F19 Feature: High Availability Container Resources -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) said: On 01/31/2013 03:51 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: I would be tempted to say: Anything running at a core system level where a dependence on a separate cron daemon may be unwanted (or a bad idea) should be migrated, and nothing else for now

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Cinnamon as Default Desktop

2013-02-01 Thread Peter Jones
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:25:05AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote: I'm sure QA, releng, docs, etc will go with what the community decides. Lets have a poll. A very public one. On the main website. Not somebody's blog. And let's let the users decide what they want. Do we have any significant data

Re: libcacard can never be installed

2013-02-01 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 29/01/2013 10:03, Richard W.M. Jones ha scritto: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 08:57:11AM +, Peter Robinson wrote: On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: I have a filed a bug about this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=905345 libcacard can

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what': For the sake of completeness, the default is 0) Avoid all the arguments and work, and continue using existing files. Is there actually a noticeable

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 1 February 2013 15:57, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what': For the sake of completeness, the default is 0) Avoid all the arguments and work, and

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: Feature owner(s): Cole Robinson crobi...@redhat.com, Amit Shah amit.s...@redhat.com Provide a paravirtual random number generator to virtual machines, to prevent entropy starvation in guests. == Detailed description == The linux kernel

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:39:17PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: What exactly feeds /dev/random in the guest in the cases where this doesn't exist, and how do we cope with this obviously making /dev/random exhaustion in the host much more likely? (Other than assume that a HW RNG is in the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 1 February 2013 16:40, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:39:17PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: Given FIPS paranoia about RNG sources, does this have knock-on effects in the FIPS compliance of guests depending on how it's fed in the host? I'm not

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Given FIPS paranoia about RNG sources, does this have knock-on effects in the FIPS compliance of guests depending on how it's fed in the host? (Hoping for an answer from someone who has actually fully analyzed the FIPS

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 08:32 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson You can go yourself through the community working log meetings to find my reference. I would expect RH employee ( and other corporation's employee ) sitting at the same

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/01/2013 11:14 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: On 1 February 2013 15:57, Miloslav Trmač m...@volny.cz wrote: On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: In any case, to look at 'we have this functionality... now what': For the sake of completeness, the

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 19:38 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 11:46:33PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Bill Nottingham wrote: VirtIO RNG (random number generator) is a paravirtualized device that is exposed as a hardware RNG device to the guest. Virtio RNG just appears as a regular hardware RNG to the guest, which the kernel reads from to fill its entropy pool. This

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: other than providing other sources of entropy, and long-term this is going to be fixed once everyone's moved to Ivy Bridge and has an unprivileged instruction to hand out entropy. uhm I know intel really wants us to use it directly and trust them,

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 08:19:30PM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: other than providing other sources of entropy, and long-term this is going to be fixed once everyone's moved to Ivy Bridge and has an unprivileged instruction to hand out entropy. uhm

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 2:19 AM, Paul Wouters p...@nohats.ca wrote: On Fri, 1 Feb 2013, Matthew Garrett wrote: other than providing other sources of entropy, and long-term this is going to be fixed once everyone's moved to Ivy Bridge and has an unprivileged instruction to hand out entropy.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Virtio RNG

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 08:17:26PM -0500, Paul Wouters wrote: The guests can always run their own rngd type tool? Yeah, this just makes host randomness available to the guest - it doesn't directly feed it to /dev/random. The guest still gets to define its own policy. -- Matthew Garrett |

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 01:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 19:38 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2013-02-01 at 08:44 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/01/2013 04:21 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 01:25:09 +, \Jóhann B. Guðmundsson\ johan...@gmail.com wrote: community. Do you really want to head down this road with me? Go ahead big man make my day! This is not appropriate behavior for a Fedora contributor. -- devel mailing list

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 04:36:20PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote: 3) introduce compatibility The cron and at interfaces aren't complex at all. It shouldn't be too hard to have a generator that reads crontab and cron.*, and the at queue, and creates the approprate timer files for systemd, in

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.comwrote: I know few RH employees who would beg the differ, many of which go above and beyond their corporate duties but I'll remember your remarks. It's good to know there exist that corporate line... You don't seem

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 01:57 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 7:52 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com mailto:johan...@gmail.com wrote: I know few RH employees who would beg the differ, many of which go above and beyond their corporate duties but I'll remember

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Either RH employees are participating in the project by their own free will or not. I have personally meet both sides which has gotten me confused and conflicted. Employees can have assigned duties as well as projects of

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 01:25 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA. Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein of error effectively killed 2 thriving process in the QA community. Do you really want

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com said: Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA. Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein of error effectively killed 2 thriving process in the QA community. Do you really want

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 02:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 01:25 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA. Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein of error effectively killed 2 thriving

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com said: Feeling happy in the Red Hat position they invented for you in QA. Feeling a big man now? Challenged accepted big man you have in your rein of error effectively killed 2 thriving process

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 02:39 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 02.02.2013 03:08, schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me I have to talk to my manager first before upgrading his component that rings alarm bells to me, That gives me the feel that they are

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 02:28 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Either RH employees are participating in the project by their own free will or not. I have personally meet both sides which has gotten me confused and conflicted.

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread David Tardon
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me I have to talk to my manager first before upgrading his component that rings alarm bells to me, That gives me the feel that they are maintaining their components as

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me I have to talk to my manager first before upgrading his component that rings alarm bells to me, That gives me the feel

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread David Tardon
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote: If you can't handle that, then Fedora development might not be the right place for you. Get the fuck out before you get in my business. If you want to test me here I am deal

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote: If you can't handle that, then Fedora development might not be the right place for you. Get the fuck out before you get in my

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread David Tardon
On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 07:06:12AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/02/2013 07:03 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 02:08:00AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: When I meet a maintainer in the project that stated to me I have to talk to my manager first before

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: systemd features

2013-02-01 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-02-02 at 07:24 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/02/2013 07:12 AM, David Tardon wrote: On Sat, Feb 02, 2013 at 06:20:18AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 02/02/2013 05:57 AM, Chris Adams wrote: If you can't handle that, then Fedora development might not be the

[Bug 906007] Please revert the unbundling of inc::Module::Install::DSL, at least when bootstrapping

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=906007 --- Comment #5 from Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org --- (In reply to comment #3) There are similar issues affecting a number of other packages too. I haven't looked into all of them yet but it looks like perl-File-HomeDir,

File Tree-DAG_Node-1.10.tgz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Tree-DAG_Node: 1ff41d11e3bec0561efadbf917e2a027 Tree-DAG_Node-1.10.tgz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Tree-DAG_Node] Update to 1.10

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 0061ff7ea3b85602e9b7695bfde50f08705bde41 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Fri Feb 1 11:16:14 2013 + Update to 1.10 - New upstream release 1.10 - Look for but don't require Test::Pod ≥ 1.45 (CPAN RT#83077) perl-Tree-DAG_Node.spec | 12

[perl-Tree-DAG_Node] Created tag perl-Tree-DAG_Node-1.10-1.fc19

2013-02-01 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Tree-DAG_Node-1.10-1.fc19' was created pointing to: 0061ff7... Update to 1.10 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

File Mail-Box-2.107.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by spot

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Callaway
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mail-Box: 6df8b045f82a3cafc1df4e934f881a2d Mail-Box-2.107.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Mail-Box/el5] 2.107

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 298720687ea4105945ecd3b87a7c0568919cfc6b Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri Feb 1 12:42:20 2013 +0100 2.107 perl-Mail-Box.spec | 32 sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-Mail-Box/el6] 2.107

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 719c08ba0ee16653186286e0f336c0b8c48ee8c1 Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri Feb 1 12:51:45 2013 +0100 2.107 perl-Mail-Box.spec | 29 - sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-Mail-Box/f17] 2.107

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Callaway
commit a6c879299dcc58159838972f72484420c9a81f2e Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri Feb 1 12:52:03 2013 +0100 2.107 perl-Mail-Box.spec | 25 +++-- sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-Mail-Box/f18] 2.107

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 3b97f03836ee7aefef0d31e639d2288af12bdb08 Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri Feb 1 12:52:21 2013 +0100 2.107 perl-Mail-Box.spec |7 +-- sources|2 +- 2 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Mail-Box.spec

[perl-Mail-Box] 2.107

2013-02-01 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 277ec9f3b3e1bd7077c97f308a0e3be24f5d44f7 Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Fri Feb 1 12:54:47 2013 +0100 2.107 .gitignore |1 + perl-Mail-Box.spec |7 +-- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff

[perl/f17] Fix RT#82655

2013-02-01 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit 9b4ad4ee45345b13778cd61edcf41f76f07d4e8d Author: Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com Date: Fri Feb 1 13:12:04 2013 +0100 Fix RT#82655 ...82655-fix-double-free-when-loading-object.patch | 46 perl.spec | 10 - 2

[Bug 895543] perl: Double-free when loading Digest::SHA object representing the intermediate SHA state from a file [fedora-all]

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=895543 --- Comment #6 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-5.14.3-221.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-5.14.3-221.fc17 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 895876] Upgrade to new upstream version

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=895876 --- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-No-Worries-0.8-1.el6 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 6 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug report.

[Bug 893464] Upgrade to new upstream version

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893464 --- Comment #11 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Net-STOMP-Client-2.0-1.el5 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 5 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug

[Bug 893464] Upgrade to new upstream version

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora EPEL https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893464 --- Comment #12 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Net-STOMP-Client-2.0-1.el6 has been pushed to the Fedora EPEL 6 stable repository. If problems still persist, please make note of it in this bug

[Bug 472083] Review Request: perl-boolean - Boolean support for Perl

2013-02-01 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=472083 --- Comment #11 from Jon Ciesla limburg...@gmail.com --- Git done (by process-git-requests). -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. Unsubscribe from this bug

Broken dependencies: perl-OpenOffice-UNO

2013-02-01 Thread buildsys
perl-OpenOffice-UNO has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree: On i386: perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-6.fc19.i686 requires libstlport_gcc.so Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

File perl-qpid_proton-0.3.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mcpierce

2013-02-01 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-qpid_proton: 7a336ee13e59dd1966e8555cd6c4777e perl-qpid_proton-0.3.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-qpid_proton] First official release for Fedora.

2013-02-01 Thread Darryl L . Pierce
commit b835695153660766dce6e601edd750fbc173d2fe Author: Darryl L. Pierce dpie...@redhat.com Date: Fri Feb 1 09:50:34 2013 -0500 First official release for Fedora. .gitignore |1 + ...Fixes-to-Perl-code-due-to-unit-test-failu.patch | 294

[perl-qpid_proton/f18] First official release for Fedora.

2013-02-01 Thread Darryl L . Pierce
Summary of changes: b835695... First official release for Fedora. (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

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