Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-22 Thread James Hogarth
On 22 Aug 2013 01:01, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: I looked a while back, and it is marked deprecated in the Fedora package database. I'm not sure why it wasn't just orphaned, since AFAIK it still works, still maintained, and there's no direct replacement. Maybe it was deprecated due

Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-22 Thread Remi Collet
Le 22/08/2013 02:01, Chris Adams a écrit : it still works Really ? See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEWbug_status=ASSIGNEDbug_status=ON_QAcomponent=mysql-workbenchlist_id=1639090 Remi. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-22 Thread Bjorn Munch
On 21/08 17.26, Ken Dreyer wrote: On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM, James Hogarth james.hoga...@gmail.com wrote: When the switch was first proposed it was Oracle who was most vocal against it to the point of them stating they'd take over package ownership and filing #958131 to update to

Fedora 20 Bugzilla Rawhide rebase

2013-08-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Greetings, This e-mail is intended to inform you about the upcoming Bugzilla changes happening the week after August 20, 2013 (Rawhide bug rebase) and what you need to do, if anything. We will be automatically changing the version for most rawhide bugs to Fedora 20. This will result in regular

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages for Fedora 20 v2

2013-08-22 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: modplugtools needs to be changed to not ship modplugplay anymore, but modplug123 should still work. Done in F-20+. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:45 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: Greetings all After sitting Dan's Walsh Secure Linux Containers talk at flock where he mentioned him and Dan B. had successfully scaled application containers to what 8000 instances or so and I noticing that his slide where a

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Peter Robinson
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings all After sitting Dan's Walsh Secure Linux Containers talk at flock where he mentioned him and Dan B. had successfully scaled application containers to what 8000 instances or so and I noticing that

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 01:06 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:45 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: snip I would like us to change our default to use long hostname instead as in the fqdn or container01.ackme.com and would love any kind of feed back in that regard ( why we should not

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 09:10 AM, Ondrej Vasik wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:45 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: snip I perfectly understand the reasons for the change and I think we should definitely change it at least on the login screen (I like the one additional line idea from Simo). In the

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 09:13 AM, Peter Robinson wrote: snip On cloud images we actually lock the root account so it's unusable. In the case of cloud providers the standard deployment is generally along the lines of either injecting ssh keys for root and unlocking it or creating a standard user account,

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 10:39 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:10 AM, Ondrej Vasik wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:45 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: snip I perfectly understand the reasons for the change and I think we should definitely change it at least on the

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 11:03 AM, Jonathan Dieter wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 10:39 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 08/22/2013 09:10 AM, Ondrej Vasik wrote: On Wed, 2013-08-21 at 18:45 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: snip I perfectly understand the reasons for the change and I think we

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 11:09 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: snip You would just overwrite in in your own .bashrc if you have long hostname and they get in your way. Yes, the same applies in the opposite direction. Long hostnames are far more practical for administrators to use then

Self Introduction

2013-08-22 Thread Rolf Fokkens
Hi All, Having a great interrest in combining both the qualities of SSD's (speed) and the qualities of HDD's (capacity) I added the following change: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/SSD_cache Since this change was accepted, I now have to really do something :-) As a result here's my

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com said: You would just overwrite in in your own .bashrc if you have long hostname and they get in your way. Long hostnames are far more practical for administrators to use then short hostnames have ever been. That's your opinion;

koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log The package, which builds fine in f20 and rawhide, buildrequires the following: BuildRequires: /usr/bin/perldoc BuildRequires: cpio BuildRequires:

Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind of input. Also, these test reveals some false warnings and other errors. Some are detected and

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Shaw
Very interesting... What's the possibility of parsing all the data and sending individual reports to package-owner@ ? I don't know that I'd want to get this type of thing frequently, but once would be nice... Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

File Perl6-Caller-0.100.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl6-Caller: d19ce32a9b7f7dfbb59aff7e38d476b9 Perl6-Caller-0.100.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Perl6-Caller] Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 9588ef99c2505a00c4a56934d92efd58fc416b71 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Thu Aug 22 14:44:40 2013 +0100 Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) By default, this module exports the caller function. This automatically returns a new caller object. An

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log The package, which builds fine in f20 and rawhide, buildrequires the following:

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 15:41, Richard Shaw wrote: Very interesting... What's the possibility of parsing all the data and sending individual reports to package-owner@ ? I don't know that I'd want to get this type of thing frequently, but once would be nice... Richard The data is already

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote: The data is already parsed, I have tools to generate list of packages failing a given test as well as all tests failing for a given package. It's just that all this is quite a lot of data... No way this will happen

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 15:54, Richard Shaw wrote: Yes... sorry I assumed you knew... package-ow...@fedoraproject.org mailto:ow...@fedoraproject.org Richard No, I don't know much. Well, it should basically be piece of cake to generate such an email for all packages. Before doing such a thing I would

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thursday, August 22, 2013 09:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log The package, which builds fine in

[perl-Perl6-Caller/f19] Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 9588ef9... Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:03:06PM +0800, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Thursday, August 22, 2013 09:58 PM, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here?

Re: Wider feedback requested on two changes to our base/core defaults

2013-08-22 Thread Ondrej Vasik
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 08:21 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com said: You would just overwrite in in your own .bashrc if you have long hostname and they get in your way. Long hostnames are far more practical for administrators to use then

[perl-true/f19] Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 999032] perl-Ouch-0.0405 is available

2013-08-22 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=999032 Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In

F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just, right now, slowing down for a release to get

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. Apparently less so with all the new ARM builders, right?

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. It's

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Christopher Meng
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. -- devel mailing list

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:23:55 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here? http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//work/tasks/1341/5841341/root.log The package, which builds fine in f20

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of

[389-devel] please review: Ticket 47394 - remove-ds.pl should remove /var/lock/dirsrv

2013-08-22 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/47394 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/47394/0001-Ticket-47394-remove-ds.pl-should-remove-var-lock-dir.patch -- Mark Reynolds 389 Development Team Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-true] Created tag perl-true-0.18-2.fc20

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-true-0.18-2.fc20' was created pointing to: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-true] Created tag perl-true-0.18-2.fc19

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-true-0.18-2.fc19' was created pointing to: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-true] Created tag perl-true-0.18-2.fc21

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-true-0.18-2.fc21' was created pointing to: a4d4beb... Initial import (perl-true-0.18-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Scala package owner unresponsive

2013-08-22 Thread Jochen Schmitt
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:41:52PM -0600, Jerry James wrote: On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Will Benton wi...@redhat.com wrote: (1) As far as I can tell, the package for Scala 2.9.2 on F19 (2.9.2-2) has broken dependencies; I can't install it via yum on my new F19 install. Is this the

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 --

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind of input. Also, these test reveals some

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 17:19:09 +0200 drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer

[perl-Perl6-Caller] Created tag perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.fc18

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.fc18' was created pointing to: 9588ef9... Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Perl6-Caller] Created tag perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.el6

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.el6' was created pointing to: 9588ef9... Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Perl6-Caller] Created tag perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.el5

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2.el5' was created pointing to: 9588ef9... Initial import (perl-Perl6-Caller-0.100-2) -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Mat Booth
On 22 August 2013 16:03, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just,

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:03:22 +0200 Alec Leamas leamas.a...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-08-22 15:54, Richard Shaw wrote: Yes... sorry I assumed you knew... package-ow...@fedoraproject.org mailto:ow...@fedoraproject.org Richard No, I don't know much. Well, it should basically be piece

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 17:45, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: In an attempt to test fedora-review we have run it on almost allpackages in the complete rawhide distribution. Our primary objective is to certify that fedora-review is stable for all this kind

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/22/2013 05:12 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:08:18PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote: What things we do _now_ could be improved with the investment of some effort? Perl rebuild always take a lot of time, and as a result it will affect the mass rebuild. Apparently

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: ...snip... What Infrastructure projects would be helped by this? A web infrastructure to * ease package orphanage. * launch AWOL/MIA requests * a unified koji/bodhi/bugzilla Web-GUI * much longer build.log

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question

Re: koji/f19 problem: kernel-xen.fc10 (!) pulled in for kernel?

2013-08-22 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:17:32AM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 14:23:55 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: Anyone want to hazard a guess about what's going on here?

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:27:20 +0200 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: The issue with this perl rebuilt was the person conducting the initial rebuild didn't manage to finish it. Don't get me wrong - He did a good job, but his time frame simply was unrealistically short. Well, I noticed

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: On 08/22/2013 05:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 03:03 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question of the 6-month cycle overall, but just,

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Miroslav Suchy
On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume when they were there to launch the builds in that batch? Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fired off and queued all at once? Peter queue honor build requires

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:10:12 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: Funny! I'm interested in hearing more about these, | 347 CheckStaticLibs |Static libs not in a -static package. Most are haskell packages |which have an exception not handled by f-r. There are more,

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: The overall results with some comments are at http://ur1.ca/f5xxw . The CheckSoFiles results might be .so plug-in libs (extension modules), which are stored in private paths, i.e. outside run-time linker's search. Or even non-versioned

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 11:03:52 -0400 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora 21 -- not (right now at least) the bigger question

Rebuilding in dependency order (was: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?)

2013-08-22 Thread Björn Persson
Miroslav Suchy wrote: On 08/22/2013 06:47 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Well, I noticed the rebuild was running only some times. I assume when they were there to launch the builds in that batch? Is there any way all the builds could be listed and just fired off and queued all at once? Peter queue

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:38:38AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: In general most of our constraints are people related. We just don't have enough developers and sysadmins to setup, deploy and maintain all the things we might want to do. I definitely know how that is. Of the list you give, maybe

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/22/2013 03:19 PM, drago01 wrote: Given that most of this stuff can be done parallel to the release (it is not like everyone is busy for full 6 months during the release cycle) I doubt this gains us much if anything. This is laughable response we in QA and I'm pretty sure it's the same

Re: Overall fedora-review test results.

2013-08-22 Thread Alec Leamas
On 2013-08-22 19:20, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 15:27:47 +0200, Alec Leamas wrote: The overall results with some comments are at http://ur1.ca/f5xxw . The CheckSoFiles results might be .so plug-in libs (extension modules), which are stored in private paths, i.e. outside

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/22/2013 03:19 PM, drago01 wrote: Given that most of this stuff can be done parallel to the release (it is not like everyone is busy for full 6 months during the release cycle) I doubt this gains us much if

[perl-YAML-Tiny] Created tag perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc21

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc21' was created pointing to: 534335f... Update to 1.54 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[perl-YAML-Tiny] Created tag perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc20

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-YAML-Tiny-1.54-1.fc20' was created pointing to: 534335f... Update to 1.54 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[perl-Test-Kwalitee] Update to 1.13

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
commit f6fd2cd1da5e06972c74e36f0f6f6c3a0f8d1175 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Thu Aug 22 19:42:55 2013 +0100 Update to 1.13 - New upstream release 1.13 - Added missing abstract for kwalitee-metrics script - No longer issuing a warning if the test is

[perl-Carp-Fix-1_25/f20] (2 commits) ...Unbundle Test-Simple and use the system one (#998410)

2013-08-22 Thread Paul Howarth
Summary of changes: 2c4bf77... Initial import (perl-Carp-Fix-1_25-1.01-2) (*) 6123b32... Unbundle Test-Simple and use the system one (#998410) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Michael Schwendt
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 Is this thing for real? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59. Where has it been announced this time? There's nothing in the archives for announce and devel-announce list. -- devel mailing list

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 Is this thing for real? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ says the End Date is 2013-08-23 23:59:59. Where has it been announced this time? There's nothing in

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 11:03:52AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: As we look at Fedora.next ideas and possibly decide to start implementation in the F21 timeframe, we will likely find _new_ things that take specific work. Let's not worry about that right now. What things we do _now_ could be

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 10:41:25AM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:00:54 +0200 Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote: ...snip... What Infrastructure projects would be helped by this? A web infrastructure to * ease package orphanage. * launch AWOL/MIA requests

[389-devel] Please review (coverity fix): [389 Project] #48: Active Directory has certain uids which are reserved and will cause a Directory Server replica initialization of an AD server to abort.

2013-08-22 Thread Noriko Hosoi
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/48 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/48/0001-Ticket-48-Active-Directory-has-certain-uids-which-ar.2.patch git patch file (master) -- fixing Coverity CID 11943 Coverity CID 11943 - Logically dead code Fix description: The following commit

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: On 22 August 2013 13:31, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef20 Is this thing for real? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/ says the End Date

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 August 2013 14:45, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: What happened to naming 20 in honor of Seth? Dan I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth hated released names with a white hot passion of 10,000 supernovas. [Of

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 17:19 +0200, drago01 wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Based on discussion at Flock, on the devel mailing list, and in the FESCo meeting, we are looking for feedback on the idea of a longer release cycle for Fedora

Re: Proposal for new package group: Development:Formal Methods Tools

2013-08-22 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 1:31 PM, John C. Peterson j...@eskimo.com wrote: I would like to edit comps.xml to add a new package group for the tools that have already been packaged by the Formal Methods SIG. I propose that the group be located under the Development category. Id:

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia Onion] HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way better than any of the other options. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread David
On 8/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia Onion] HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options? That's way better than any of the

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 23/08/2013 01:08, David ha scritto: On 8/22/2013 7:03 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: [Of course he would probably still laugh if the release was named Vidalia Onion] HEY! Why isn't Vidalia Onion one of the name options?

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 22/08/2013 22:53, Dan Mashal ha scritto: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth hated released names with a

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread punto...@libero.it
Il 23/08/2013 01:22, punto...@libero.it ha scritto: Il 22/08/2013 22:53, Dan Mashal ha scritto: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but

Re: Changes to make MySQL vs. MariaDB less confusing

2013-08-22 Thread Andrew Rist
On 8/21/2013 5:01 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Ken Dreyer ktdre...@ktdreyer.com said: I fear a similar fate is going to befall mysql-workbench before too long, since it's been orphaned for a while. Are the Oracle employees still around? I looked a while back, and it is marked

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:53 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: I believe that it was decided that like had been done in the past, this release would be dedicated to Seth Vidal, but not named after him as Seth

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: some of the things I would like to work on include, fully automating the release process, today i have to do mutliple things from multiple locations to trigger off the different pieces of the release. write a tool like mash

Re: bug filed against distribution

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-08-16 at 22:05 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: since i have enough of bugzilla-mails as response of bugreports containing referecnes to any Fedora version but not the reported i consider this as bug in the distribution itself https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=998035 *at

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 11:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 08/17/2013 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: VLAN setup for installing! Yay! However, after rebooting, NetworkManager wasn't able to bring it up, something about not knowing the virtual interface name. Turned out to be the ethernet

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me, one extra point for Vidalia onion over 20. Heck I like Crazy Train based on a recent Matthew Miller assertion. Assuming there can be no

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: QA, releng and anaconda are on a more or less permanent iteration treadmill from Alpha TC1 onwards, severely limiting the time we have to work on anything else. We can only really get substantive work done on 'things

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: *smack own forehead* I like that better than the other options also. For me, one extra point for Vidalia onion over 20. Heck I like Crazy Train

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 11:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 08/17/2013 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Yeah, I've seen that kind of thing in some of my tests. A lot of my live installs wind up with New York as the

Re: F21 schedule: what would you do with more time?

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 22, 2013, at 3:03 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: QA, releng and anaconda are on a more or less permanent iteration treadmill from Alpha TC1 onwards, severely limiting the time we have to work on anything else.

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-08-22 at 18:16 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: On Aug 22, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Sat, 2013-08-17 at 11:57 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 08/17/2013 12:28 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: Yeah, I've seen that kind of thing in some of my tests. A

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:05 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: How about no release name, just this one time. In his honor? I'd back no release name for 20 with 8 points and 0 for everything else, if it's an option, and in particular if the marketing includes to the effect of: Fedora

Re: F19 server install experience

2013-08-22 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 22, 2013, at 6:24 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: No, we're not talking about the bash prompt on tty2, but there's an actual *login prompt* on like tty6 or something. So far as I and the OP knows, there is no account with a known password for you log in as, and you have

Re: F20 release name election?

2013-08-22 Thread Dan Mashal
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:05 PM, Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote: The choices are what the community came up with. At this point, that is what we have to chose from. I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but there

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