Re: Better fonts by default?

2018-11-16 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 08:01:48PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > "NG" == Neal Gompa writes: > > NG> Most of these fonts look like they are licensed appropriately, the > NG> only problem is the Ubuntu fonts, which have been noted to have a > NG> non-free license[3] (unless someone

Re: Upgraded from F28 x96_64 XFCE Spin to F29 => rough audio

2018-11-16 Thread Leigh Scott
Try https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_PulseAudio_problems#Playback_problems.2C_crackling_or_skipping ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

[Bug 1648872] Upgrade perl-Data-Dumper to 2.173

2018-11-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1648872 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In

[Bug 1645195] Upgrade perl-DBD-ODBC to 1.60

2018-11-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1645195 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In

[Bug 1644249] Upgrade perl-SNMP-Info to 3.62

2018-11-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1644249 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ON_QA |CLOSED Fixed In

Upgraded from F28 x96_64 XFCE Spin to F29 => rough audio

2018-11-16 Thread Philip Rhoades
People, I haven't seen any posts about this but is anyone else having problem with audio after an upgrade? - it happens with both PulseAudio and with just basic ALSA. I have a relatively simple setup: *-multimedia description: Audio device product: 200

[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2018-11-17 - 90% PASS

2018-11-16 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2018/11/17/report-389-ds-base-1.4.0.16-1.fc29.x86_64.html ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to 389-devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code

Re: Better fonts by default?

2018-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "NG" == Neal Gompa writes: NG> Most of these fonts look like they are licensed appropriately, the NG> only problem is the Ubuntu fonts, which have been noted to have a NG> non-free license[3] (unless someone can get Canonical to fix it). I had a look at the license at

[Test-Announce] 2018-11-19 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

2018-11-16 Thread Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting # Date: 2018-11-19 # Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto) # Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net Greetings testers! As many folks were missing last week, let's run the meeting again with the desktop testing

Re: Blocking criteria proposal for F30+: Printing

2018-11-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 08:33 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > There was a bug[1] filed recently that indicated that printing was > broken on certain printers. As a result of that discussion, it became > apparent that there was no criteria for printing to work at all, which > seems like an

[EPEL-devel] Re: EPEL8 branches

2018-11-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 18:39, Orion Poplawski wrote: > > What's the plan with epel8 branching? I was fairly happy with needing to > request branches manually like with did with epel7. Are we going to use the > "epel8" name? That is the part I am wondering about because of modularity and

Re: Proposal to modify release criteria for fwraid

2018-11-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-09-14 at 10:22 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > At yesterday's F29 Go/No-Go meeting, we discussed the blocker status > of BZ #1628192 - Fedora 29 installation cannot see a firmware RAID > device. While the blocker criteria clearly states that this should be > a blocker for Beta, many

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 novembre 2018 à 13:02 -0800, Japheth Cleaver a écrit : > > I'm not sure why punting like this is a good thing. RPM is a > standard, > moving along at what one might expect a core component to do, but to > the > extent that "evolving our packaging" means doing things at odds with

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes: MM> It's the fundamental contradiction that all operating systems face: MM> users complain "too fast and too slow!" at the same time. Well, then lengthening the Fedora lifecycle does not seem to me to be the real solution. Instead, I think, it's to

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-16 Thread Jim Perrin
On 11/16/18 3:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2018-11-16 at 22:07 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote: >> For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle >> objectives, specifically focusing on problem statement #1[1]. >> >> >> Have rpm use zchunk as its compression format,

[EPEL-devel] EPEL-8 plans and needed work

2018-11-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
Yesterday, Red Hat announced its Red Hat Enterprise Linux 8 Beta, and so we would like to start getting ideas on what people expect for EPEL-8. First off, we are not going to be able to do this like we did with EPEL-5,6, or 7 because too much of the build infrastructure and tools have changed

Re: Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2018-11-16 at 22:07 +, Jonathan Dieter wrote: > For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle > objectives, specifically focusing on problem statement #1[1]. > > > Have rpm use zchunk as its compression format, removing the need for > deltarpms, and thus reducing

Re: [EPEL-devel] rhel 8 beta mock configs and EOLed mock configs

2018-11-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/15/18 3:05 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Hi, > I just released [1] new mock-core-config package which include new > rhelbeta-8-* configs. > This will allows you to build packages on top of RHEL 8 Beta. This is > temporary config. I put them there so you can experiment with your > builds and

[EPEL-devel] EPEL8 branches

2018-11-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
What's the plan with epel8 branching? I was fairly happy with needing to request branches manually like with did with epel7. Are we going to use the "epel8" name? -- Orion Poplawski Manager of NWRA Technical Systems 720-772-5637 NWRA, Boulder/CoRA Office FAX: 303-415-9702

[EPEL-devel] Re: rhel 8 beta mock configs and EOLed mock configs

2018-11-16 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 11/15/18 3:05 PM, Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Hi, > I just released [1] new mock-core-config package which include new > rhelbeta-8-* configs. > This will allows you to build packages on top of RHEL 8 Beta. This is > temporary config. I put them there so you can experiment with your > builds and

Proposal: Faster composes by eliminating deltarpms and using zchunked rpms instead

2018-11-16 Thread Jonathan Dieter
For reference, this is in reply to Paul's email about lifecycle objectives, specifically focusing on problem statement #1[1]. Have rpm use zchunk as its compression format, removing the need for deltarpms, and thus reducing compose time. This will require changes to both the rpm format and new

[rpms/perl-Mojolicious] New Commits To "rpms/perl-Mojolicious" (f29)

2018-11-16 Thread pagure
The following commits were pushed to the repo rpms/perl-Mojolicious on branch f29, which you are following: df0b2d05354c41dd535add4d55ec3b76326dd63bAdam WilliamsonMerge branch 'master' into f29 089318d55fdb0a3a01b31e4369df93e8331bc125Emmanuel SeymanUpdate to 8.06

[rpms/perl-Mojolicious] New Commits To "rpms/perl-Mojolicious" (master)

2018-11-16 Thread pagure
The following commits were pushed to the repo rpms/perl-Mojolicious on branch master, which you are following: df0b2d05354c41dd535add4d55ec3b76326dd63bAdam WilliamsonMerge branch 'master' into f29 c47a0baf6ca965545d22b300fec800f87620b4c4Emmanuel SeymanUpdate to 7.94 To view

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 11/15/2018 3:54 PM, Jason Tibbitts wrote: And to add in an additional argument that we didn't have a decade ago: We're actually trying to evolve our packaging now. EPEL with it's "old RPM never changes" restriction is bad enough but fortunately limited in scope. Having years of Fedora

[HEADS UP] Latest protobuf is coming into Rawhide

2018-11-16 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Hello, I'm going to work on protobuf update which involves SONAME change from .15 to .17. I don't see any breakage from release notes, it is mostly about making minimum c++ std to c++11 and cleanups. I'll carefully check and if everything looks ok, I'll push it to Rawhide next week and rebuild

Non-responsive maintainer: Lev Shamardin (abbot)

2018-11-16 Thread Igor Gnatenko
Does anybody know how to contact him? The last activity dates 2010. I didn't follow procedure fully yet, but I'm 99% sure that there will be no reply in bugzilla. But I'm starting it now: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650661 ___ devel

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:52 PM Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes: > > IU> AFAIK, that wasn't officially supported. > > What does "official" actually mean, and what relevance does that have? > Adrian Bunk didn't maintain 2.6.16 in a way that's much different than >

How do I "release" a spin/lab?

2018-11-16 Thread Miro Hrončok
When Fedora 29 was released, the Python Classroom Lab wasn't built. The problem is now fixed: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=23847 However how do i build and release it, so it is listed on: https://labs.fedoraproject.org/ And so that

Re: List default packages and propose amendmends

2018-11-16 Thread Anatoli Babenia
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 06:25:20AM -, Anatoli Babenia wrote: > > The key word is "comps". There is a separate database which stores > this information and is used by (some) installer software: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_use_and_edit_comps.xml_for_package_... 

Fedora Server 29: when stop and start my qemu/kvm server, some service they do not start

2018-11-16 Thread Dario Lesca
I have setup a samba AD-DC server with BIND9_DLZ on a Fedora 29 server. Samba is OK, all work fine when all services are started The problem occur only when I stop and then start the server, If I reboot, the problem do not occur. When the server start after a stop, some services do not start

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes: IU> AFAIK, that wasn't officially supported. What does "official" actually mean, and what relevance does that have? Adrian Bunk didn't maintain 2.6.16 in a way that's much different than the current long term support kernels are supported. And even before that,

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gerald Henriksen wrote: > I think the problem is that for a consumer / desktop oriented product > - which we seem to be talking about given that this appears to be > driven in part by the desire of hardware vendors - the RHEL/CentOS > release cycle leads to problems for several years worth of

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Iñaki Ucar
El vie., 16 nov. 2018 17:07, Jason L Tibbitts III escribió: > > "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes: > > IU> In this respect (the kernel), it's true that something changed > IU> compared to a decade ago: there was no LTS support upstream > IU> then. Now, there is. > > That is not really true. 2.6.16

Re: Giving same acls to new modular repos as that of their respective rpms repos

2018-11-16 Thread Mohan Boddu
On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:21 AM Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 16. 11. 18 15:15, Mohan Boddu wrote: > > Hello, > > > > We got a suggestion about giving same acls of rpm when creating new > > module dist-git which matches the rpm. > > > > The plan is to give "main admin" permission to the requester of

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "IU" == Iñaki Ucar writes: IU> In this respect (the kernel), it's true that something changed IU> compared to a decade ago: there was no LTS support upstream IU> then. Now, there is. That is not really true. 2.6.16 (the first kernel that I recall anyone calling some equivalent of "LTS")

[rpms/perl-YAML-Tiny] New Commits To "rpms/perl-YAML-Tiny" (master)

2018-11-16 Thread pagure
The following commits were pushed to the repo rpms/perl-YAML-Tiny on branch master, which you are following: 72c5f176693ce3bb59f325033f3c311c3dba1c8ePaul HowarthDrop legacy Group: tag and redundant test requirements To view more about the commits, visit:

Lifecycle objective - problems, solutions, and proposal

2018-11-16 Thread Paul Frields
I worked with FPL Matthew Miller and our engineering manager Jim Perrin, among others, to define the various problems we want to solve in diversifying the Fedora lifecycle. We're seeking review and feedback from community members. The most salient feedback will be from those involved in the

Re: Giving same acls to new modular repos as that of their respective rpms repos

2018-11-16 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 16. 11. 18 15:15, Mohan Boddu wrote: Hello, We got a suggestion about giving same acls of rpm when creating new module dist-git which matches the rpm. The plan is to give "main admin" permission to the requester of the new module repo and then giving the same permissions as that of the

Giving same acls to new modular repos as that of their respective rpms repos

2018-11-16 Thread Mohan Boddu
Hello, We got a suggestion about giving same acls of rpm when creating new module dist-git which matches the rpm. The plan is to give "main admin" permission to the requester of the new module repo and then giving the same permissions as that of the maintainers from its matching rpm repo. I

Planned Outage - src.fedoraproject.org - 2018-11-20 08:30 UTC

2018-11-16 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Planned Outage - src.fedoraproject.org - 2018-11-20 08:30 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2018-11-20 08:30 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2018-11-20

Planned Outage - src.fedoraproject.org - 2018-11-20 08:30 UTC

2018-11-16 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
Planned Outage - src.fedoraproject.org - 2018-11-20 08:30 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2018-11-20 08:30 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2018-11-20

Re: rhel 8 beta mock configs and EOLed mock configs

2018-11-16 Thread Paul Howarth
On Thu, 15 Nov 2018 23:05:24 +0100 Miroslav Suchy wrote: > Hi, > I just released [1] new mock-core-config package which include new > rhelbeta-8-* configs. > This will allows you to build packages on top of RHEL 8 Beta. This is > temporary config. I put them there so you can experiment with your

[Bug 1650156] Upgrade perl-TestML to 0.55

2018-11-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650156 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In Version|

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 05:54:59PM -0600, Jason Tibbitts wrote: > MM> Let's talk about something new and exciting. [...] > I know it's been a while. Maybe it's been long enough that a > significant number of the developers here don't remember it. I am > pretty sure you were around, though, so I

[rpms/perl-TestML] New Commits To "rpms/perl-TestML" (master)

2018-11-16 Thread pagure
The following commits were pushed to the repo rpms/perl-TestML on branch master, which you are following: 6d56c459a7cb90dffdf88f575e95f77bbbc78788Petr Písař0.54_05 bump To view more about the commits, visit: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/perl-TestML/commits/master

HEADS UP: xml-security-c 2.0 in rawhide

2018-11-16 Thread Pete Walter
Hi, I've updated xml-security-c from 1.7.3 to 2.0.2 in rawhide. This includes a soname bump. I'm going to start rebuilds for affected packages shortly: libdigidocpp opensaml xmltooling Pete ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Jiri Eischmann
mcatanz...@gnome.org píše v Čt 15. 11. 2018 v 19:00 -0600: > On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > But there are some good cases for a longer lifecycle. For one > > thing, > > this has been a really big blocker for getting Fedora shipped on > > hardware. Second, there are

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le vendredi 16 novembre 2018 à 11:37 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit : > iable, and checking those in the installer) > > * that effectively means: > * the only supported state is the current upgrade tip, > * you have an N-era window where upgrades to the current tip are > supported baring

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 15 novembre 2018 à 16:22 -0500, Matthew Miller a écrit : > On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 10:45:26AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > He's proposing Debian-style source code forking into git repos and > > having the build description merged into that source tree. It's > > usually referred to as

[Bug 1650041] Perl 5.28.0 in-place edit broken

2018-11-16 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1650041 --- Comment #4 from Petr Pisar --- Perl 5 porters recommend calling "close ARGVOUT" explicitly as a workaround because the file replacement is triggered by closing the file handle (that normally happens by consecutive "<>" call that's called

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, Realistically, the only thing that fits the interests of Fedora packagers, the cadence and interdependencies of the projects Fedora ships, is a form of rolling release. We are not a Microsoft that can tell its software groups “from now on you release with this cadence and support for this

[EPEL-devel] EPEL 8 beta ?

2018-11-16 Thread Xavier Bachelot
Hi, Now that RHEL 8 beta is out, is there any plan to have some sort of EPEL 8 beta for people willing to prepare for the real RHEL 8 in advance ? Regards, Xavier ___ epel-devel mailing list -- epel-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Iñaki Ucar
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 01:54, Jason Tibbitts wrote: > > My recollection is that meaningful discussion usually stopped at the > kernel issue. At one point we had some basic agreement that people who > cared were welcome to push to old branches of things to keep them going, > but that was back

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16. 11. 18 v 10:38 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > Dne 16. 11. 18 v 0:54 Jason Tibbitts napsal(a): >>> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes: >> MM> How would we balance this with getting people new stuff fast as >> MM> well? >> >> Wait, what? Certainly you're not suggesting trying to do an extended

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 16. 11. 18 v 0:54 Jason Tibbitts napsal(a): >> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes: > MM> Let's talk about something new and exciting. > > I assume that you mean "very much not new and about as exciting as the > fifteenth viewing of an episode of the Joy of Painting". > > I know it's been a

Re: Fedora Lifecycles: imagine longer-term possibilities

2018-11-16 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 14. 11. 18 v 21:11 Ben Rosser napsal(a): > Instead of working on a new "Fedora LTS" for this usage case, > would time be better spent improving EPEL and CentOS for the > desktop/laptop use case? +1 Instead of building bigger kernel team, rel-engs, security team... we can focus on CentOS