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2023-06-23 Thread Mikhail Gorsky via devel
Hello! Please pay attention that ISO for x86_64 from  https://fedoraproject.org/workstation/download/ is not available. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

Re: Koji builders cannot build Wine Mono

2023-06-23 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 6/20/23 12:21 AM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: The builds fail in similar ways but in different places. If anyone has a minute could they review the build logs and offer a clue as to what may be the cause? I had some time to debug today and came up with a possible answer I feel is the

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 9 updates-testing report

2023-06-23 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 9 Security updates need testing: Age URL 5 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-8f0f0d103a chromium-114.0.5735.133-1.el9 2 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-534fc4dfaa suricata-6.0.13-1.el9 1

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 8 updates-testing report

2023-06-23 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 8 Security updates need testing: Age URL 5 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-3947e434d2 chromium-114.0.5735.133-1.el8 2 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2023-2ca43aa1cf suricata-6.0.13-1.el8 The following builds

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Neil Hanlon
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 18:41 Josh Boyer wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 3:20 PM Michael Catanzaro > wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:27:24 PM -0400, Josh Boyer >> wrote: >> > Which means equivalent fixes are in CentOS Stream and anyone wanting >> > to recreate exactly what is in RHEL is

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > getservbyname would use /etc/services, but I'm not sure how widely it is used. > A lot of code just hardcodes a specific number… Local configuration for > port numbers is a concept that only works if somebody synchronizes the > file across

[Bug 2214989] perl-HTTP-Tiny-0.084 is available

2023-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2214989 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added Resolution|--- |ERRATA Status|ON_QA

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 08:20:58PM +0200, Michal Domonkos wrote: > On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > > Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's > > time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration: > >

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 10:25:10AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek said: > > I was hoping we would be make the dependency on setup optional. > > It is a fairly heavyweight package (700+ kb) and with lots of > >

[Bug 2217108] New: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230623 is available

2023-06-23 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2217108 Bug ID: 2217108 Summary: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-5.20230623 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Status: NEW Component: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases Keywords:

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

2023-06-23 Thread Jeremy Linton
Hi, On 6/23/23 05:27, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: == Detailed Description == As a first pass, the 'inst.sdboot' option already in anaconda should work. As it stands, that replaces grub+shim with the systemd-boot loader, and moves the kernel + initrd to the EFI system partition (ESP). It doesn't

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 3:20 PM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:27:24 PM -0400, Josh Boyer > wrote: > > Which means equivalent fixes are in CentOS Stream and anyone wanting > > to recreate exactly what is in RHEL is welcome to backport that code > > from CentOS Stream or

Fw: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread Leslie Satenstein via devel
Hello from Montreal, Canada I have been a Fedora user for about 20 years.  In all that time, it was known that the frequency of Fedora updates are as you described. However, I just want to remind you that when a new release of Fedora is published, that Fedora also provides a utility (a dnf

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-23 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Josh Boyer wrote: > Agree with Matthew fully here. We've been working rather hard > internally to adjust the development process for RHEL to be more > collaborative and open than it ever has before. The *development process* is more open, but the production releases, which is the only thing end

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:27:24 PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: Which means equivalent fixes are in CentOS Stream and anyone wanting to recreate exactly what is in RHEL is welcome to backport that code from CentOS Stream or upstream. Yes, but that's going to be pretty hard to do if you cannot see

Re: Red Hat Stream ONLY, Orphaning packages

2023-06-23 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2023-06-21 at 18:26 +0100, Philip Wyett wrote: > Hi all, > > After the announcement below today. > > https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-stream > can you elaborate ? centos Stream will be the same source of RHEL , or RHEL will have the same source of Centos

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Michal Domonkos
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 01:18:27PM +0300, Panu Matilainen wrote: > Now that the initial hurdle of getting rpm 4.19 into rawhide is over, it's > time to start looking towards enabling the sysusers integration: > https://rpm-software-management.github.io/rpm/manual/users_and_groups.html [...] > 3.

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Josh Boyer
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 9:35 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:07:39 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch > wrote: > > Please understand that (speaking of the user space packages, I cannot > > speak for kernel) there are no other sources then the sources in > > GitLab, > > which is

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2023-06-23 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 8:00 AM wrote: > > Dear all, > > You are kindly invited to the meeting: >ELN SIG on 2023-06-23 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern >At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.chat > > The meeting will be about: > * x86_64-v3 baseline and dropping i686 multilib > * Plans for the

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 06:16:52 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Ah, there is actually webkit2gtk3-2.38.5-1.el9_2.2 not webkit2gtk3-2.38.5-1.el9.2. I got it now. Oh sorry, I mentally expanded the dist tag incorrectly. My bad. Anyway, in this example, CentOS Stream is on 2.40 while RHEL 9.2 is on

Re: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread stan via devel
On Fri, 23 Jun 2023 10:41:00 + مصعب الزعبي wrote: > - One year between releases. This is easy to attain under the current system. Just don't upgrade every 6 months. The upgrade process is tested to upgrade 2 fedora versions, so, for example, from f38 to f40. This is a one year cadence.

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23. 06. 23 v 18:14 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 23. 06. 23 v 18:00 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 23. 06. 23 v 15:34 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:07:39 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Please understand that (speaking of the user space packages, I cannot speak for

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23. 06. 23 v 18:00 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 23. 06. 23 v 15:34 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:07:39 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Please understand that (speaking of the user space packages, I cannot speak for kernel) there are no other sources then the sources

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20230623.n.0 changes

2023-06-23 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20230622.n.1 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20230623.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 9 Added packages: 3 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 22 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 128.36 KiB Size of dropped packages:0

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23. 06. 23 v 15:34 Michael Catanzaro napsal(a): On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:07:39 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Please understand that (speaking of the user space packages, I cannot speak for kernel) there are no other sources then the sources in GitLab, which is publicly accessible (AFAIK).

Re: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread Barry
> On 23 Jun 2023, at 11:41, مصعب الزعبي wrote: > > When upgrading the system every 6 months, alot of resources will be trashed!! > For Fedora users and Fedora itself. My experience supporting a commercial product on top of fedora is that it is cheaper then using LTS distros. The incremental

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, Jun 23 2023 at 01:07:39 PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Please understand that (speaking of the user space packages, I cannot speak for kernel) there are no other sources then the sources in GitLab, which is publicly accessible (AFAIK). The sources that are actually used for RHEL

Re: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 23. 06. 23 v 12:41 مصعب الزعبي napsal(a): It will be more stable, effective, natural-friendly and feasible if we make Fedora lifetime as: - One year between releases. - Two year of release lifetime. Why do you think this cadence is more effective, natural-friendly and feasible? Do you

xmlsec1 broken update in rawhide

2023-06-23 Thread Tomas Halman
Hi Recently I prepared an update of xmlsec1 package to version 1.3 in rawhide but by this step I broke other packages like lasso (I'm sorry for that my mistake). Since I did not manage to fix (Simo also tried with help from the upstream community - thanks for the effort) and it is blocking

Re: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread Michal Schorm
That depends on what you are looking for. There are a lot of distributions out there, each with different goals. Pick one which goals are closest to yours. However if you really want Fedora without upgrading often, try to run Fedora Rawhide - our development branch. You will have to deal with

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 23. 06. 23 v 12:46 Leon Fauster via devel napsal(a): 3) So what happened? - CentOS Engineers will not be producing that git repo of exploded SRPMs anymore because there is no need for them in CentOS project. - Red Hat recommends to take RHEL sources from CentOS Stream repositories because

Re: Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread Arthur Bols
On 23/06/2023 12:41, مصعب الزعبي wrote: It will be more stable, effective, natural-friendly and feasible if we make Fedora lifetime as: - One year between releases. - Two year of release lifetime. That doesn't really work with our "First" goal [0]. Then we're just another Ubuntu. [0]:

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Leon Fauster via devel
> 3) So what happened? > > - CentOS Engineers will not be producing that git repo of exploded SRPMs > anymore because there is no need for them in CentOS project. > > - Red Hat recommends to take RHEL sources from CentOS Stream > repositories because that is the actual source from which RHEL

Two Years of Fedora Releases

2023-06-23 Thread مصعب الزعبي
Dear Fedora development community, As you know Fedora releases every 6 months for one year of lifetime. This is good for development and new features implementation. But it is not good for stability and sustainability. When upgrading the system every 6 months, alot of resources will be

Re: Fedora-Rawhide testing blocked in Testing Farm (partially)

2023-06-23 Thread Miroslav Vadkerti
Rawhide testing with Zuul was disabled until the issue is fixed. Please use, the testing results from Fedora CI PR testing until it the dnf5 issues are resolved. Best regards, /M On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 11:45 PM Miroslav Vadkerti wrote: > To mitigate errors, I am proposing to disable

Re: F39 Change Proposal: Clean Systemd-boot installs (Self-Contained_

2023-06-23 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
> == Detailed Description == > As a first pass, the 'inst.sdboot' option already in anaconda should > work. As it stands, that replaces grub+shim with the systemd-boot > loader, and moves the kernel + initrd to the EFI system partition > (ESP). It doesn't attempt to create unified kernel images,

[rpms/perl-Devel-CheckLib] PR #3: Requires: redhat-rpm-config for tests

2023-06-23 Thread Petr Pisar
ppisar commented on the pull-request: `Requires: redhat-rpm-config for tests` that you are following: `` I think the dependency should go to perl-Devel-CheckLib package. Devel::Checklib::_findcc() defaults compiler flags to $Config(cflags). `` To reply, visit the link below

Re: Towards enabling rpm sysusers integration

2023-06-23 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 22. 06. 23 v 17:01 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): I don't remember seeing an actual Fedora Change for either file-trigger enablement or current %sysuser_* macros so I'm not sure it's needed here either? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Adopting_sysusers.d_format Please

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-23 Thread Jonathan Steffan
Matthew, Thanks for sending this out. There is a lot of FUD right now and this plan is what I had hoped was going on. The FPO/RH/IBM should do some additional community engagement to clear this up. A very clear diagram of the development/packaging flow would go a long way and give the community a

Re: What is Fedora?

2023-06-23 Thread Benson Muite
> > This doesn't impact Fedora, but will certainly impact the various > RHEL rebuilds whether community based (AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux), > or fully commercial (Oracle OEL). Those distros can still provide > the initial point releases, but will have to do all the work to > figure out backports for

Orphaning packages

2023-06-23 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello. I orphaned the following packages: rpms/axc rpms/git-subrepo rpms/jdns rpms/maddy rpms/mdns rpms/pidgin-groupchat-typing-notifications rpms/pidgin-privacy-please rpms/pidgin-toobars rpms/psi rpms/psi-plus rpms/purple-discord rpms/purple-googlechat rpms/purple-libsteam rpms/purple-lurch

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-23 Thread Simon de Vlieger
On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, at 11:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > 1. Fedora Rawhide continually updated > 2. ELN maintained in parallel, as part of Fedora > 3. At some point, ELN branched to new CentOS Stream > 4. ... a year or so of CentOS Stream development in public ... > 5. RHEL Beta forked from

SPDX Statistics - Berlin edition

2023-06-23 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Two weeks ago we had: * 23004 spec files in Fedora * 29461license tags in all spec files * 17975 tags have not been converted to SPDX yet * 6743tags can be trivially converted using `license-fedora2spdx` * Progress: 38.99% ░░░███ 100% Today we have: * 23055 spec files in Fedora *

Re: CentOS Stream, RHEL, and Fedora [was Re: What is Fedora?]

2023-06-23 Thread Ian Laurie via devel
On 6/22/23 19:01, Matthew Miller wrote: Sure, but... that's the _opposite_ of the direction things are going. Awesome post. -- Ian Laurie FAS: nixuser | IRC: nixuser TZ: Australia/Sydney ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To