Re: booting successfully with read-only file system

2020-07-02 Thread Langdon White
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:54 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > Hi, > > this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as > default, but makes sense independently too... > > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only > root file

[modularity] Modularity team meeting canceled today

2020-02-04 Thread Langdon White
As a result of PTO, fosdem, etc, availability for the meeting today is pretty light. We should resume next week. Langdon ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora

[modularity] Meeting on Jan 21, 2020 canceled ^z

2020-01-21 Thread Langdon White
As many of the people who would be at the meeting are tied up today, we are canceling. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

[modularity] Meeting Minutes - Jan 14, 2020

2020-01-21 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/modularity/modularity.2020-01-14-15.00.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/modularity/modularity.2020-01-14-15.00.txt Log: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/modularity/modularity.2020-01-14-15.00.log.html

modular protobuf issue (Dec. 6, 2019) recap

2019-12-06 Thread Langdon White
## How to determine if you have an issue and how to fix it: run: ```sudo dnf list --installed *protobuf*``` if you get a result that looks like ```protobuf.x86_64 3.6.1-6.module_f31+6793+1c93c38``` you have encountered the problem. so please: run: ```sudo dnf module disable eclipse``` run:

[modularity] discussion of "RFC: Modularity Simplified"

2019-12-04 Thread Langdon White
Hi all, The modularity team will be holding a discussion about the recent mailing list thread with a subject line of "RFC: Modularity Simplified" which can be found on hyperkitty here[1]. Discussion will take place tomorrow (Dec. 5) at 10am (eastern, 15h UTC) in

[modularity] Modularity Team Meeting Summary/Minutes for 2019-12-03

2019-12-04 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-12-03/modularity.2019-12-03-15.02.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-12-03/modularity.2019-12-03-15.02.txt Log:

[modularity} meeting for Nov. 19, 2019 canceled

2019-11-19 Thread Langdon White
Most of the primary team members are unavailable today so we are canceling the meeting. Join us next week instead! langdon ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[modularity] Meeting Minutes Nov. 12, 2019

2019-11-19 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-11-12/modularity.2019-11-12-15.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-11-12/modularity.2019-11-12-15.01.txt Log:

[modularity] meeting on Oct. 15, 2019

2019-10-15 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-15/modularity.2019-10-15-15.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-15/modularity.2019-10-15-15.01.txt Log:

[modularity] modularity team meeting minutes (Oct. 08, 2019)

2019-10-08 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-08/modularity.2019-10-08-15.08.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-10-08/modularity.2019-10-08-15.08.txt Log:

[modularity] Modularity Team Meeting Minutes (Sept 17, 2019)

2019-09-17 Thread Langdon White
Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-09-17/modularity.2019-09-17-15.02.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2019-09-17/modularity.2019-09-17-15.02.txt Log:

Re: [modularity] Removing obsolete github repositories with module definitions

2018-09-11 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 3:09 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Go ahead > > +1 On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 3:04 PM Adam Samalik wrote: > >> We have some obsolete github repositories [1] from the f26 and f27 period >> we are no longer using. I feel like it might be confusing to people. So I'd >> like

[Modularity] Working Group IRC meeting minutes (2018-06-26)

2018-06-26 Thread Langdon White
Meeting started by langdon at 14:05:28 UTC. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/teams/modularity_wg/modularity_wg.2018-06-26-14.05.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot-raw.fedoraproject.org/teams/modularity_wg/modularity_wg.2018-06-26-14.05.txt Log:

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

2018-06-19 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 2:42 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 10:57:17AM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > > I also believe we would be willing to reconsider this policy if it > > doesn't work out in practice. We're really just looking for ways for us > > to operate more efficiently

Modularity Working Group IRC Meeting Minutes (2018-05-01)

2018-05-01 Thread Langdon White
Meeting started by langdon at 14:01:52 UTC. Minutes: https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2018-05-01/modularity_wg.2018-05-01-14.01.html Minutes (text): https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-3/2018-05-01/modularity_wg.2018-05-01-14.01.txt Log:

Re: [modularity] fedora/linux/modular 404

2018-02-22 Thread Langdon White
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 4:51 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 02/22/2018 10:33 AM, milanisko k wrote: > > Folks, > > > > > > I've just encountered $Subj today, yesterday the same content URL > > < > http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/modular/updates/testing/27/Server/x86_64/

Fedora Objective: Fedora Modularization — The Release

2018-01-17 Thread Langdon White
SCALE 16x[7]. Please let us know if you have questions or comments here or in #fedora-modularity. Langdon White Modularity Objective Lead^3 [0]: https://pagure.io/Fedora-Council/tickets/issue/170 [1]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Objectives/Fedora_Modularization_%E2%80%94_The_Release [2]: http

[modularity] WG meeting minutes

2017-10-03 Thread Langdon White
Most important item, if you would like to add an agenda topic, the mechanism has changed. Please create an issue in https://pagure.io/modularity/issues for meeting topics you would like discussed. Once you create the issue, add the "Meeting" tag to it by "Edit Metadata". Meeting summary

[modularity] Meeting of the Modularity Working Group (Sept. 19, 2017)

2017-09-19 Thread Langdon White
Quick Minutes: * Topic: when build-requireing bootstrap, nothing else can cascade to build-require anything that conflicts (langdon, 14:09:45) * LINK: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/modules/python3.git/tree/python3.yaml (langdon, 14:28:22) * ACTION: langdon to get bootstrap guidance added to

Re: modularity: (my) expectations vs. reality

2017-08-22 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 2:40 PM Michal Novotny wrote: > I would like to publicly note that I had completely different idea about > this project first time I have encountered it at the last Flock. > > My idea was that the project will target runtime rather than build-time > and

Re: [modularity] Guidelines & Process

2017-08-22 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:53 AM Owen Taylor wrote: > Hi Langdon, > > Thanks for all the work that went into the process and guidelines! > > My particular interest is in what I consider the simplest use case - > taking an existing leaf-node application (desktop or otherwise),

Re: [modularity] Guidelines & Process

2017-08-22 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 5:23 AM Petr Pisar <ppi...@redhat.com> wrote: > On 2017-08-21, Langdon White <lang...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > > [2]: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Module:Review_Process > > I don't understand purpose of this paragraph: > > &g

[modularity] Guidelines & Process

2017-08-21 Thread Langdon White
The Modularity WG has proposed a set of guidelines[1] and a process[2] for adding modules to Fedora and we would love your feedback. Our general docs are on Pagure[3] if you need more background/further information. Please share your feedback here or directly on the wiki page(s). You can also

Re: Council Elections - July/August 2017 - Result announcement

2017-08-15 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:37 AM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Jan Kurik wrote: > > # votes | name > > - +-- > > 505 | Justin W. Flory (jwf / jflory7) > > - +-- > > No wonder, he is the only candidate who bothered

Re: [Modularity]: Service levels and EOL expectations?

2017-08-07 Thread Langdon White
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 3:59 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 02:10:23PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > I still don't see how this is going to work with a tree of Service Levels > > and Lifetimes. Any module can not give a SL greater than the

Re: Arbitrary Branching and solving the "Change Checkpoint? Better hit the gas!" problem

2017-08-07 Thread Langdon White
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 7:34 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > Our Change process has the basic assumption that if a Change isn't > > working, we will be able to back out. But, in practice,

Re: Announcing Boltron!

2017-07-25 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 19:34 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:49:41AM -0400, langdon wrote: > > As you may have seen on Fedora Magazine[1], the Modularity and > > Server Working Groups are very excited to announce the availability > > of the

Re: Fedora Modules & Fedora 27 Server Edition (Changes)

2017-06-27 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017, 10:54 Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:44 AM, langdon wrote: > > On 06/27/2017 08:30 AM, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 1:44 PM, langdon > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>

Re: Fedora Modules & Fedora 27 Server Edition (Changes)

2017-06-26 Thread Langdon White
On Mon, Jun 26, 2017, 12:06 Ben Rosser wrote: > On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > > The modular release is effectively a separate distro. > > > > While using single RPMs from traditional Fedora might work in > > most cases, I

Re: Proposal: Rethink Fedora multilib support (Take Two!)

2017-01-10 Thread Langdon White
On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 8:20 AM, Ian Malone wrote: > On 10 January 2017 at 10:08, Florian Weimer wrote: > > On 01/08/2017 01:52 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> > >> Brendan Conoboy wrote: > >>> > >>> Enhancing interoperability increases the reach of Fedora

Re: Fedora captive portal page changed output :(

2016-12-02 Thread Langdon White
On Dec 2, 2016 22:42, "Eric Sandeen" wrote: On 12/2/16 7:10 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > > Fedora runs a captive portal check page at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/static/hotspot.txt > > It used to return "OK\n". > > Now it returns "OK" without the newline. Wouldn't it make

[Modularity] WG meeting time

2016-05-03 Thread Langdon White
Hi, Unfortunately, I heard from some of the new voting members that the current Modularity WG meeting time is not doable for them. Please use the link below to help us figure out a new time. http://whenisgood.net/hzd7x2b Langdon PS: haven't actually used whenisgood to schedule a meeting

[Modularity] First WG meeting in 30 minutes

2016-03-31 Thread Langdon White
First and foremost, I would like to point out that we have a modularity calendar in fedocal[1]. We will schedule meetings there and, likely, send a note to devel@ for each meeting with an agenda, etc. I would also like to formally invite the Fedora Base WG and Envs & Stacks members to the new

[Modularity] Launching Modularity WG & Getting to Work

2016-03-28 Thread Langdon White
We have 11 nominations[1], more than the typical 7, for the voting members of the Modularity WG already and I have a few full-time developers who have been starting to do some work on modularity. As we have a number of people expressing early interest, I would like to get the WG moving now.