Re: [ELN] Rebuild ordering and side-tag support

Hi, On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 11:55:21AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Summary: I think we can fix the ELN side-tag rebuild problems and make > the composes more reliable if we change the mechanism for kicking off > rebuilds. I'm soliciting feedback to help identify potential issues > with this

Re: Request for contributions: Demos of Features or other videos for virtual FOSDEM 2021 booth

Hi Michel, On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 09:55:04PM -0800, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > [snip] > > If you would create a video to show at FOSDEM or have one in mind, > > please add them to the table at > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSDEM_2021#Videos > > > > FOSDEM will be 6-7 February, so if

Request for contributions: Demos of Features or other videos for virtual FOSDEM 2021 booth

Hi, there will be a virtual booth at FOSDEM 2021 and this allows to show some videos. This allows to present the latest features in Fedora or other interesting items. I skimmed over the Features for 33 and 34 and the following topics seemed to be good for a video: - IoT edition - i3 spin -

Re: How to easily automate test builds in a COPR project

Hi, On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 07:58:53AM -0600, Richard Shaw wrote: > 4. Build the packages in COPR. > > Easy enough using a bash script but is there a better way? packit allows to create test builds in COPR based on GitHub PRs and probably also releases. Maybe this can make it easier for you,

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

Hi, On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 12:41:44PM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 12:03:17PM +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > > > I don't think you can make branches

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Stop Shipping Individual Nodejs Library Packages (Self-Contained)

Hi, this does not seem to be self-contained, since it seems to affect people outside the SIG (it states that this is also affecting packages that are not owned by the SIG). On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 01:44:30PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

Hi, On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 11:13:19AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I don't think you can make branches completely descripive by themselves, > unless possibly you make them really long. > > flatpak_branch_where_stable_flatpaks_are_made_from That it is about flatpaks is already described in the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:52:13PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > After looking at the infra and releng issue trackers Kevin managed to found > back > the ticket I was thinking about. > You have my apologies, the namespace that was asking to a different default > branch and for that branch

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

Hi, On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 08:30:45PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Changing the default on upgrades is good because the Fedora 33+ experience > is similar regardless whether the system is freshly installed or upgraded. in this specific case, the argument for making nano default was that it is

Re: What is the real value of Release and %changelog metadata?

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 03:08:50PM +0200, Pavel Raiskup wrote: > Release tag problem/proposal > > > Let's stop requiring Release bumps for each build. And let's put an > additional tag into Release, like proposed in [4]: > > "Release: 1%{?dist}%{?buildtag}" >

Re: Using "rawhide" for the dist-git branch for Fedora Rawhide

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 09:03:19PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > Hi, > > in https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2410 I proposed to name the dist-git > branch for Fedora Rawhide "rawhide" to clarify the purpose of that > branch. There was also some feedback that Rawhide mig

Re: Using "rawhide" for the dist-git branch for Fedora Rawhide

On Tue, Jul 07, 2020 at 10:13:36PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > I (strongly) support the renaming of the branch, but I really > really would prefer there to be a rough consensus on the > replacement name across the entire git community, so > that I don't need to remember to git-checkout devel

Using "rawhide" for the dist-git branch for Fedora Rawhide

Hi, in https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/2410 I proposed to name the dist-git branch for Fedora Rawhide "rawhide" to clarify the purpose of that branch. There was also some feedback that Rawhide might not be the best name and it could be renamed. In that case, the branch could be named as this. This

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 09:01:21AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 05:52:07PM +0200, Till Maas wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 08:16:29AM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > > > > While it may be worth vim making themselves b

Re: List of long term FTBFS packages to be retired in August

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 05:21:58PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Package (co)maintainers Latest build > > gpscorrelate tillFedora 30 fixed. Thanks Till

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 08:16:29AM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > While it may be worth vim making themselves better, it really doesn't > change the argument. > > Even a friendlier vim is still going to be far to strange and > confusing to somebody just looking to quickly change a setting and

Re: Fedora 33 System-Wide Change proposal: Make nano the default editor

Hi, On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 06:48:56PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > Nothing in vi's default view (if launched with a file, which is what > happens in this case) tells you you need to press 'insert' in order to > actually edit anything. Nothing in vi's default view tells you you have > to type

Re: New set of questions for FESCo candidates?

On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 10:50:59AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > And perhaps it doesn't really provide more information, but it could. > > But I suppose without enough data people might not vote for people with > too short / curt answers. Oh well, if people feel the explicit questions > are

Re: New set of questions for FESCo candidates?

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 01:37:08PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 04:26:36PM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 3:13 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek < > > zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote: > > > > > > > > > 1. Why do you want to be a member of FESCo? > > > > 2. How

Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:35:28AM -0400, Alex Scheel wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Miro Hrončok" > > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 8:28:15 AM > > Subject: Re: CPE Weekly: 2020-04-04 > > > > On 06. 04. 20 14:19, Alex Scheel wrote: > > > That

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 08:34:07AM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > Why is it disappointing? The Pagure project isn't suddenly being > removed from the internet. Is there a reason you can't contribute to > it to add the features you need? From my experience, I know that many of my contributions are

Re: Fedora 32 FTBFS packages to be orphaned in 1 week

On Mon, Apr 06, 2020 at 12:59:40PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 29. 03. 20 13:13, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > According to the Fedora's Fails To Build From Source policy: > > Oprhaning is a easily revertible nondesctructiove action. > > Only packages orphaned for 6+ weeks will be retired (removed

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

Hi Leigh, On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 09:56:10AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 10:13 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:28:59AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > No singular Forge satisfied ev

Re: The Git forge decision (was CPE Weekly: 2020-03-28)

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:28:59AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > No singular Forge satisfied every single User Story. Any feature gaps will > land on the Backlog of Gitlab for voting and prioritisation as their > Engineering teams see fit. this sounds very disturbing. Please clarify this.

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 02:40:13PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:26 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > &g

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 01:59:07PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 2:18 PM Till Maas wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > > > > > For transparency, we have published the ful

Re: CPE Git Forge Decision

Hi, On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 11:04:03AM +0100, Leigh Griffin wrote: > For transparency, we have published the full User Story list which is > linked within the blog and for ease of searching is here: > https://hackmd.io/@My419-DISUGgo4gcmO1D6A/HJB74lcL8 the user stories list does not seem to

Re: GSoC 2020 | Improving Network Linux System Role

ist_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/summer-cod...@lists.fedoraproject.org -- Till Maas He/His/Him Associate Manager, Software Engineering NetworkManager, Nmstate, Ansible RHEL Networking System Role Red Hat GmbH, http://www.de.redhat.com/

Re: Autoclosure of review requests?

On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 05:04:26PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > The usual Bugzilla housekeeping (branching, EOL closure, etc) explicitly > excludes review request bugs. Having a large number of open, ancient review > requests isn't exactly harmful, but it's not very helpful either. > > Before I

Re: Turning off keys.fedoraproject.org

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 11:15:01PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > are sent over TLS, but what do they do if your email provider doesn't > support SMTP over TLS? Do they refuse your key in that case? My guess > is that they send the verification email unprotected, and that that's > one reason why

Re: Git Forge Requirements: Please see the Community Blog

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 04:34:37PM +, Leigh Griffin wrote: > On behalf of the CPE team I want to draw the communities attention to a > recent blog post which you may be impacted by: > https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/git-forge-requirements/ > > We will be seeking input and

Re: Question about mass rebuilds

On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 10:33:54AM -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote: > Yet according to koji, there is no build for fc31: > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=avr-libc > > I'm not saying that anything is wrong - I'm just curious as to why the > package wasn't rebuilt. Any

Re: Has fedpkg + dist-git replaced rpmbuild for building new/local packages?

On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 04:39:22PM +0200, David Kaufmann wrote: > Although I have to re-symlink SOURCES everytime I work on a different > package I can use all of rpmbuild, mock, fedpkg,… from the same source > folder. You can also use a wrapper script that can be called in dist-git working

Please help with youtube-dl and possibly other packages of mine.

Hi, Please help with updating youtube-dl and possibly other packages of mine because I cannot do it and my comaintainers do not seem to be able to do it as well. Thank you and kind regards Till ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Using fedora-active-user: unable to find fedora_cert

Hi, On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 09:43:38AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Ideally it should drop fedora-cert use entirely. It looks like currently > all it uses it for is to figure out your username. Instead it should > default to your local user name or take a --user or something. :) IMHO it should

Re: Fork a 119MB pagure project to updating monitoring?

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 11:04:11AM +0200, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > Basically, there would now be a button on the sidebar which would show the > current monitoring status and would allow project admins and pagure wide > admins > to update this setting. > > Feedback most welcome :) Awesome!

Stepping back from FESCo

Hi friends, Brian[0] made me think about my commitments and I realized that it is time to step back from my FESCo seat. Thank you for your confidence in electing me last year! Kind regards Till [0] https://www.winglemeyer.org/ramblings/2019/01/07/cookie-cleanup.html

Re: libravatar is in fedorainfracloud!

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 09:40:16AM +0100, Michal Novotny wrote: > We, as a libravatar group, are very happy that Fedora Infra provided > us with the needed > hardware. We will keep the service running by our own effort. What is the right place report errors in the web server configuration

Re: Orphaned packages that will be retired (and everything will most likely burn)

On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 04:28:17PM +0100, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 15. 02. 19 v 14:22 Emmanuel Seyman napsal(a): > > * Hans de Goede [15/02/2019 12:09] : > >> And automatic scripts really just should hand it over to the first > >> co-maintainer > >> in the list. > > > As long as we have no

Re: F30 Self-Contained Change proposal: MongoDB Removal

On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 04:23:48PM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > My understanding is that not only we will not able to test those, but there > will be no point of shipping them at all. What am I missing? It is very likely that the packages can still be used to access MongoDB instances that run on

Re: Can we please stop enforcing Signed-off-by commits?

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 08:14:32AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:13 AM John Harris wrote: > > > > On Friday, January 18, 2019 4:07:19 AM EST Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > TIL - there's a git feature for adding S-o-B to a commit. > > > I always typed it out by hand

Re: Organizing a "packager experience" objective and working group

On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 07:47:26PM -, Artur Iwicki wrote: > - Now that I've mentioned it, maybe we should add something like "fedpkg > fas-login"? Personally I've put "alias koji-init='kinit > my-fas-acco...@my-domain.org'" in my .bashrc, because looking up how to solve > the "koji says

Re: Orphaned packages need new maintainers (will be retired in 1 week)

Hi, Am 19.12.18 um 15:20 schrieb Miro Hrončok: This should all be gone after I mass retire on Monday. If the package is already retired but not known to be, retiring it again will make sure it is retired correctly. it would be great to verify this. In the past I spotted some packages like

Re: How to avoid re-generating Pagure API keys all the time?

Hi Ben, On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 11:42:51AM +0100, Ben Rosser wrote: > I don't know. I feel like we could do a lot to improve the experience > of packaging by investing time into fixing these sorts of minor > annoyances. (But here I am complaining on the devel list and not > actually doing

Re: replace unclutter with unclutter-xfixes?

Hi Henrique, On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 08:40:29AM -0800, Henrique Martins wrote: > Unclutter seems to be an orphaned package that keeps being > rebuilt, there even is an fc30 rpm. The URL given in the > fc29 package points to a dead link on MIT. I filed a > bugzilla report on this and no one

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-09-07)

Hi, On Fri, Sep 07, 2018 at 11:07:02AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > When is this going to happen? Because I'm still concerned with the > js-jquery1 and I still hope somebody else will pick it up. But if not, > I'd rather pick it up prior its retirement. I guess we will discuss this in the next

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:04:37PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > I'd like to keep the packages above. > > And I'll be very happy if the packages listed bellow are retired. Most > of them are orphaned without comaintainers, that is fine. However some > appears to have co-maintainers, which is not

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

Hi, On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 11:00:54AM +0200, Bob Mauchin wrote: > > Can someone reassign dnscrypt-proxy to me, eclipseo, I have updated the > project recently and I follow upstream closely. What's the procedure to > adopt it? I assigned it to you. The usual process is to file a releng ticket

Re: Orphaned Packages in rawhide (2018-08-27)

Hi, On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 04:56:58PM +1000, Dan Callaghan wrote: > Excerpts from Till Maas's message of 2018-08-28 00:03 +02:00: > > python-configobj fale, lmacken, orphan, 45 weeks ago > >terjeros >

Re: "Orphan packages will be retired if they remain orphaned for six weeks"

On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 10:38:33AM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Is $subj [1] an automated or manual process? Shall I retire packages I've > orphaned before more weeks or just wait? Please retire the pkgs yourself. This is currently not happening. The deprecation of pkgdb broke the script and the

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of GCC from the buildroot

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:39:55PM +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > Yes, I've pushed over 2k commits adding those, however regexp might have > not catched all possible cases. Would appreciate if you would link such > packages so that I can fix them. Or maintainers can do it themselves. > > [1]

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of GCC from the buildroot

On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 05:44:50PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > I still think that this change is absolutely counterproductive, because it > will actually INCREASE local mock build times for all C/C++ programs for all > packagers, because gcc and gcc-c++ will no longer be included in the root

Re: Packages which needlessly use %defattr

Hi, On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 10:36:08AM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > I haven't written any scripts which modify specfiles, only scripts which > find issues. And in any case: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mass_package_changes#Automated_cleanup > > Besides... this is git. And

Re: [HEADS UP] Removal of GCC from the buildroot

Hi, On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 08:42:09AM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > At the bottom I want only flag that people like Igor as they have > proven packager perms are able to make at the end more harm than good. > I don't know him (how experienced developer he really is) as my only > personal

Re: New FESCo Meeting Time and Ticket Policy

On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 01:18:04PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Although still, the FESCo meeting agenda used to be place, where it was > obvious, that something probably happened with the ticket and it needs > FESCo (and possibly my) attention. The notification of new issues would > not replace

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 07:24:54PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote: > Till Maas wrote: > > I do not see any reason why a user would put something in ~/bin that > > would mask something in /usr/bin except to actually mask the binary. It > > is the same with other user configur

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 05:01:38PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 at 13:36, Till Maas wrote: > [..] > > > The attacker could have looked up the exploit on the web. > > > > If it is a public exploit, then it is usually fixed by updates, > > esp

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 02:17:43PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > For example in case of have /usr/local/bin/id you can observe that > gnome-terminal started from command line and GUI menu are altere. > In other words this effect is literally spreads as well across most of > the

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 01:17:57PM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > * Stolen passwords from penetrated hosts, used for SSH connections. > Copying a file to $HOME/.local/bin requires far less scripting and > awareness of existing contents than editing of .bashrc or .profile > that reveals

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 06:56:16PM +0200, Alois Mahdal wrote: > > > On 06/15/2018 11:24 AM, Till Maas wrote: > > ...] > > > >> What I'm trying to say is that with these kinds of attack (like viruses, > >> or exploits on massively accessed page), there i

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, Am 15.06.2018 um 00:50 schrieb Alois Mahdal: On 06/14/2018 11:37 PM, Till Maas wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:19:27PM +0200, Alois Mahdal wrote: On 06/14/2018 08:40 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: What about attack success rate? But if the attacker is some browser

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:53:58PM -0500, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > Theory will always become reality at some point. I think there is very > good reasons to keep the staggered approach to electing FESCo members. The lack of candidates and voters is a practical problem that we have now. Not sure

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 08:02:33AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 06/14/2018 03:42 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > I know we never manage to motivate many people to vote, but 86 votes is > > really > > low, even for us:( > > Yes, I was checking out the voter count on other pollings and

Re: FESCo Elections - May 2018 : Results announcement

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 03:57:36PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:53 PM Randy Barlow > > Downside is that it would be possible (though I'd guess unlikely) for > > all of FESCo to suddenly change to 9 different people and there'd be no > > members who know the current state

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:56:32PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > Look, people keep asking why it was like this. I am trying to explain > it. I am not defending it or saying we have to keep doing it that Thank you very much. I appreciate it to know the history and see that I am not

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 04:19:27PM +0200, Alois Mahdal wrote: > On 06/14/2018 08:40 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > What about attack success rate? > But if the attacker is some browser exploit able to take a shot at many > users (not knowing what their OS, let alone default $PATH

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 05:28:03PM -0400, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > The usual culprit in the past has been where an attacker gets access > via a chrooted or container environment where they only have access to > a limited set of directories. A long time ago this was done via ftp I read this

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 08:43:06AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 07:50:29AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > The simple fact is that "sudo" inherits $HOME and $PATH by default. > > Not in Fedora's default configuration. And, this proposal increases my > support for

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 06:28:47PM +0200, Alois Mahdal wrote: > I've seen many examples with .bashrc, but .bashrc only does it for bash > (and only in interactive mode, IIRC). One has to do it for something > like .xsessionrc -- frankly I'm not sure if there is such file that applies. > >

Re: Elections for Council - May 2018 - Result announcement

Hi, On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 09:06:34AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 04:34:10AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > > The elections for Council - May 2018 [1] have concluded, and the > > results are shown below. > > Welcome, Till! And, thank you Nick for your work on the Council

Re: Fedora Elections May 2018 - Voting period of FESCo elections has started

On Fri, Jun 08, 2018 at 12:04:29PM -0400, Randy Barlow wrote: > On 06/08/2018 11:54 AM, Ben Rosser wrote: > >> you can ask Koji to build off the master branch for non-rawhide > >> releases. > > > I actually didn't know this. Is this a recently added feature? Is > > there some place I can read

Re: Fedora Elections May 2018 - Voting period of FESCo elections has started

Hi, On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 05:15:04PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > No one points on things like discussion on: > - common specs coding style > - cutting number of %iffings (and use instead SCM branches which git offers) > - cutting legacy tails like still using tons of scriptlets which can be

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Strong crypto settings: phase 2

On Tue, Jun 05, 2018 at 08:08:00AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > I don't know, but it seems worth considering, and my basic point here > is this is something the Change owner should be responsible for > figuring out: making at least a reasonable effort to evaluate which > important

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

Hi, On Mon, Jun 04, 2018 at 05:09:46PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Talking from my experience running Rawhide on two my laptops for ~5 > years, I really don't remember where I would really need to use older > kernel. If I had to, it was probably due to something like audio issues > with my

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

Hi, On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 03:44:12PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 3:12 PM, Till Maas wrote: > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 02:30:20PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III > > > >> > If

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

Hi, On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 02:30:20PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > I think it needs to be made specific, unambiguous, and deliberate. Yes > this means it is also obscure if you don't know the decoder ring, but > worse is when the decoder ring is either random or changing all the > time. But for

Re: F29 System Wide Change: Hide the grub menu

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 02:30:20PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jason L Tibbitts III > > If we're going to patch grub to expand the set of keys it will watch > > for, is it possible to just expand the set to encompass all keys? We > > don't really need to make

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

Hi, On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 09:13:09AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:07 AM Till Maas wrote: > > Yes and yes, otherwise one could not synchronise between older and newer > > Fedoras. > > > > > If they needed to sync between older sy

Re: Unified Unison package (again)

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 08:53:25AM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Are these packages parallel-installable (and do they need to be?) It seems Yes and yes, otherwise one could not synchronise between older and newer Fedoras. > to me like this would be a FAR better solution as a module. You

Re: Fedora Elections May 2018 - Voting period has started for Council and Mindshare elections

Hi, On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 02:19:48AM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote: > the Voting period of the currently running Fedora Elections [0] has > just started. Please vote for your candidates to Council [1] and > Mindshare [2]. > You can vote till June 6th, 2018 when the voting ends at 23:59:59 UTC. > >

Re: NEEDINFO denial of service attack

Hi, On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 10:28:42AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1736 > > I've had about 100 bugs set to NEEDINFO of me to check if some obscure > Fedora package is vulnerable to some 1 or 2 year old bug. > > Is this a useful use of anyone's time? it

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 05:18:48PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > On 29 May 2018 at 15:24, Till Maas wrote: > > This is also not a serious security threat. > > > > And this claim bases on what kind of facts? > Can you prove this? Sure, there is no logo or catchy name fo

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 01:44:00PM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > Just try to grep across /usr for /usr/local. This is not only about $PATH. > Many scripts, programs or configuration files have HARDCODED checking > availability of some resources or executables in /usr/local before start >

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:19:02AM +0100, Sorin Sbarnea wrote: > I ended up creating > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UserPathPrioritization and I invite > others to improve its description. awesome, I was about to do the same, therefore I added myself as second owner to express that

Re: Prioritizing ~/.local/bin over /usr/bin on the PATH

Hi, On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:19:44AM +0100, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote: > distribution binaries is extremely dangerous, and I'm really surprised that > no one looks on those already discussed here issues (and few similar or > related) as SERIOUS SECURITY TREAT to whole distribution. IIRC enough

Re: Would be possible to add freerdp2 package only for EPEL?

On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:58:37AM +0200, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: > I thought that this would not be a problem as epel is built on Fedora > infra which is not same as rhel one. The problem is that koji needs to know about the RHEL packages to be able to create buildroots for EPEL. This is were

Re: [fesco] Updated FTBFS package policy

Hi, On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 01:53:28PM +0200, Jiri Vanek wrote: > The second one is pretty strong one. Does it incue system packages too? If > so, note that it can be hard to adapt some packages to new GCC or (in > future) new JDK11 in short interval of two mass rebuilds. The short interval is

Re: Would be possible to add freerdp2 package only for EPEL?

Hi, On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 01:22:46PM +0200, Ondrej Holy wrote: > Unfortunately, EPEL branch for freerdp can't be simply created due to > package name conflict. Would be possible to add freerdp2 package only for > EPEL? yes, just mention this in the review and retire the master branch directly

Re: [fesco] Updated FTBFS package policy

Hi Andrew, On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 06:47:09AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > Can you check that whatever scripts are doing this work are filing > sensible bug reports? I got this: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1582774 > > which has totally wrong text. This isn't a Fedora

Re: [fesco] Updated FTBFS package policy

Hi, On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 04:27:15PM +0100, Sérgio Basto wrote: > On Fri, 2018-05-25 at 15:46 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > Fedora package maintainers, > > > > FESCo approved an updated policy for packages which fail to build > > from > > source during mass rebuilds (FTBFS)

Re: herbstluftwm

Hi Silvia, just a short follow up, are you using herbstluftwm? Usually it makes sense to package what you use to be familiar with the package. Also it would be great if you create pull requests with your proposed changes to herbstluftwm. Kind regards Till

Re: herbstluftwm

Am 26. Mai 2018 10:54:37 MESZ schrieb Alexander Ploumistos : >Hi Silvia, > >On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 10:07 AM Silvia Sánchez >wrote: >> Hi, > >> Mastaiza, would you be so kind to sponsor me? I'll be glad to >maintain >your package, I like it and

orphaned aircrack-ng

Hi, I just orphaned aircrack-ng, it needs more love than I am able to give it at the moment. It would be great to keep it in the distribution, though. Unfortunately there are some open bugs but since upstream just moved to GitHub there is at least hope that there will be bugfixes eventually.

Rebuilding a lot of packages that fail to build from source (FTBFS)

Hi, I am currently rebuilding about 1000 packages in Rawhide that were not properly rebuilt in the last mass rebuild or failed to build. So if you wonder why I rebuilt your package, this is why. Since it also seems that the bug reports for the last mass rebuild are lacking the log files, I might

Summary/Minutes from last FESCo Meeting (2018-03-23)

ing 15:01:18 #meetingname fesco 15:01:18 The meeting name has been set to 'fesco' 15:01:25 #topic init process 15:01:26 .hello2 15:01:27 sgallagh: sgallagh 'Stephen Gallagher' <sgall...@redhat.com> 15:01:31 .hello till 15:01:32 tyll: till 'Till Maas' <opensou...@till.name> 15:02:33 I cou

Re: josm orphaned, or why are we packaging

On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 01:49:27PM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > 1. ELF binaries > 2. binary run-time loadable libraries > 3. script files for scripting language environments (java programs >could be arguably placed here) > 4. scripting language libraries > 5. java applets running in the

josm orphaned

Hi I orphaned josm (https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/josm), the java openstreetmap editor on request by the original maintainer. Please adopt it. It needs to be updated regularly to follow the current openstreetmap guidelines, currently it is outdated (also in EPEL). Kind regards Till

Schedule for Friday's FESCo Meeting (2018-03-23)

Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Friday at 15:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d '2018-03-23 15:00 UTC' Links to all issues below

Re: Escaping macros in %changelog

On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 10:25:48PM +0100, David Sommerseth wrote: > I personally find it abusing shared resources throwing builds at it which has > not been tested first. So I prefer to do local mockbuilds first, simply to > lessen the load on shared resources. I'm not saying I haven't tossed

Re: Orphaned packages seeking new point of contact

On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 07:42:45AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Fri, Feb 2, 2018 at 3:22 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > On Fri, 2 Feb 2018 10:32:33 -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > >> rpms/gqview > > It is unmaintained for over 10 years. > > > > It has been forked into

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