Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 05:27:39 +0200, you wrote: >family of tools. Every regular user will choose their own tools for >calendar, email, etc. Simple picture viewer/kpaint etc, should be included >because they are essential part of a desktop system, however, calendar, >address book, email client, are

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

Radka Janekova wrote: > Now that said, it was discussed that the spin is meant to be as a showoff > of the KDE family. Is it? Or is it meant for the *actual user* who has > preferences. Both, with (personally) a priority on the former if there are conflicts of interest. -- Rex

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

t;> >> >> >> >> -- >> *From:* Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> >> *To:* Development discussions related to Fedora < >> devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:35 PM >&g

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

dora < > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> > *Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:35 PM > *Subject:* Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin > > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 11:34:10PM +0200, Radka Janekova wrote: > > Yes, I've installed it and removed about a *gigabyte* of tr

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

The kde list is: k...@lists.fedoraproject.org Stephen is correct, this discussion shouldn't be on the development list for the reasons he mentioned above. I've copied the kde-list. please respond there if desired and remove reference to the development list before sending. I'd just like to

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On 2 October 2017 at 10:57, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > > Hello Stephen, > > So, according to you, this discussion won't change much KDE Spin? I am trying to move this conversation from being bikeshedding to possibly accomplishing something. The devel list is meant for general

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

Hello Stephen, So, according to you, this discussion won't change much KDE Spin? Besides, how do I join a SIG? Do you have a link by chance? Regards, Silvia 2017-10-02 15:16 GMT+01:00 Stephen John Smoogen : > On 2 October 2017 at 08:45, Sylvia Sánchez

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On 2 October 2017 at 08:45, Sylvia Sánchez wrote: > > Hello, > > It's not only a pain, it often ends in an unusable system. > About the browsers, I don't like much Konqueror, actually is one of those > programmes I uninstall first if it's around. What about Chromium instead?

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

Hello, It's not only a pain, it often ends in an unusable system. About the browsers, I don't like much Konqueror, actually is one of those programmes I uninstall first if it's around. What about Chromium instead? It's like Chrome and it's desktop agnostic so it works well and looks good in any

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

Dne 9.9.2017 v 17:47 Gerald B. Cox napsal(a): > > I believe you are missing the point of defaults which is to provide as > complete environment as possible out of the box. I am a user of KDE Spin. And I *never* used this way. I always have been using it as a source for LiveImage so I can

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

, > > > > Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here > is the softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience : > > > > kolourpaint kruler qupzilla ktorrent krusader kgpg krfb kmines kpat > kmahjongg krdc konversat

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

> I guess the OP and his friends could create a KDE-Lite spin or try LXQT The same could be said for GNOME to have a GNOME-Lite (Python Classroom is exactly that) I would happily promote LXQT and MATE Mutter as a lightweight alternative to KDE and GNOME respectively

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On 11 September 2017 at 14:19, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Richard W.M. Jones > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 07:17:56PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: >> > While you (and others) may well know the name of the software you

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

> Very good point. I think that the original poster meant "not needed" by him > but > it is good to be precise. Not at all. I meant softs not popular / less common / not that useful / can be replaced by better softs. ___ devel mailing list --

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No time for that ;) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

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> @Jack, thank you for providing me with a cool list of stuff to remove, any > other ideas how to make Fedora KDE a better experience? =) No it's really good like that :) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On 11 September 2017 at 06:45, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 07:17:56PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: >> While you (and others) may well know the name of the software you like >> for a given task, new people will not have that knowledge. > > Isn't that

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 3:45 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 07:17:56PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > While you (and others) may well know the name of the software you like > > for a given task, new people will not have that knowledge. > > Isn't

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Saturday, September 9, 2017 2:28:52 PM CEST jack smith wrote: > Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here is the > softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience : > kolourpaint kruler qupzilla ktorrent krusader kgpg krfb km

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 07:17:56PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > > While you (and others) may well know the name of the software you like > > for a given task, new people will not have that knowledge. > > Isn't

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 07:17:56PM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > While you (and others) may well know the name of the software you like > for a given task, new people will not have that knowledge. Isn't that really a discoverability problem? I could imagine having menu items pointing to

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

T (which I also do not use but is based on the same toolkit and Plasma from what I understand). THanks!  From: Matthew Miller <mat...@fedoraproject.org> To: Development discussions related to Fedora <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 5:35 PM Subjec

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 23:34:10 +0200, you wrote: >+1 for making the KDE spin lighter. >I'm really surprised with all the advocates here. Isn't it the right way to >go, to always have as minimal install as possible, with just the basics for >the purpose? I truly believe that everyone grabs KDE spin

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 11:34:10PM +0200, Radka Janekova wrote: > Yes, I've installed it and removed about a *gigabyte* of trash. I believe > that most people will use maybe one or two tools out of that list. Hey, let's please not call software in Fedora "trash", regardless of personal opinion of

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

+1 for making the KDE spin lighter. I'm really surprised with all the advocates here. Isn't it the right way to go, to always have as minimal install as possible, with just the basics for the purpose? I truly believe that everyone grabs KDE spin for the Plasma desktop, for the environment, and not

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

Anyway MPV is only in RPM Fusion so can't be included in the ISO. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

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Thanks but I'm perfectly happy with KDE :) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

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> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:34 AM, jack smith wrote: > And MPV is a GTK+ based application, That isn't true or are you actually referring to gnome-mpv (separate project)? [leigh@localhost ~]$ rpm -qa --requires mpv\* |grep gtk [leigh@localhost ~]$

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

-- Enviado desde mi móvil, disculpe la brevedad William El 9/9/2017 9:35 a. m., "jack smith" escribió: > On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith > Taking most of those out would make our experience significantly worse > than

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

I know this is not KDE, but the original poster could consider using the LXQT spin and see if that serves his purpose. From: Markus S. <mark...@fedoraproject.org> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2017 3:04 PM Subject: Re: A less "bloate

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

Wholeheartedly agree. Everybody who disagrees with your proposal better put their money where their mouth is and do all necessary QA work for the upcoming release! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

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KDE without these softs plus the one I want make a really great experience ;) My KDE install consume only 400M at boot without the "bloat" ! ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:34 AM, jack smith wrote: > > Akonadi can be configured to use SQLite. I don't know why we don't, > but it's a valid option. That would be better indeed even if I think that PIM stack shouldn't be on the ISO. > KDE Falkon is a

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

That's what I do but why not have a cleaner, saner and less bloated ISO ? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

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That's not the point at all. Fedora doesn't ship every Gnome app that exist. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith <pavi...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here is the > softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience : Heh. I've been publishing RP

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sat, Sep 09, 2017 at 08:47:22AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > I believe you are missing the point of defaults which is to provide as > complete environment as possible out of the box. Since this is a KDE spin, > we should be providing as complete of a KDE environment as possible. > Users

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 11:34 AM, jack smith wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith > wrote: >> >> Taking most of those out would make our experience significantly worse >> than the GNOME spin (a.k.a Fedora Workstation). > >

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

# dnf remove foo and you can easly get rid of what you do not like. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:34 AM, jack smith wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith wrote: > > > As I said if one want to use softs that are not installed by default they > can just simply install them. > > I believe you are

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

> On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith wrote: > > Taking most of those out would make our experience significantly worse > than the GNOME spin (a.k.a Fedora Workstation). Not necessarily because we can only remove the less useful one, replace some of them by

Re: A less "bloated" KDE spin

On Sat, Sep 9, 2017 at 8:28 AM, jack smith <pavi...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Hello, > > Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here is the > softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience : > > kolourpaint kruler qu

A less "bloated" KDE spin

Hello, Would you like to consider to provide a less "bloated" KDE spin ? Here is the softs I suggest to remove to have a much cleaner base experience : kolourpaint kruler qupzilla ktorrent krusader kgpg krfb kmines kpat kmahjongg krdc konversation konqueror akregator kamoso dragon k