Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 08:54:06AM +, Chris Kelley wrote: > > > > The above is done by about 2.5 people (counting multiple volunteers as 1 > > person). This goes up at times and goes down but for the last year has been > > about that. > > An aside - how/where does one volunteer to help

Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-10 Thread Chris Kelley
> > The above is done by about 2.5 people (counting multiple volunteers as 1 > person). This goes up at times and goes down but for the last year has been > about that. An aside - how/where does one volunteer to help releng? On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 21:22, Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > On Wed, 8

Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-09 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 at 10:12, Petr Pisar wrote: > For module maintainers, module users, and flatpak maintainers: > > Fedora infrustructure has long-standing problems with supporting modules. > > Namely, MBS is unable to build modules with deep dependencies >

Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-09 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Mar 9 2023 at 09:48:11 AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: Naive question: how does the approach with flatpak-builder would compare to the current one with modularity? Well it would certainly look different, but I did not suggest that we would use flatpak-builder. Maybe Owen

Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Mar 08, 2023 at 10:20:21AM -0600, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Mar 8 2023 at 04:10:15 PM +0100, Petr Pisar > wrote: > > That could also affect seemingly unrelated parts of Fedora like Flatpaks > > whose build process is based on modularity. > > I can address this. We intend to stop

Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-09 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 08/03/2023 16:10, Petr Pisar wrote: That could also affect seemingly unrelated parts of Fedora like Flatpaks whose build process is based on modularity. We should start building Flatpaks natively using flatpak-builder from standard build manifests. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev

Re: Degradated modules support

2023-03-08 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, Mar 8 2023 at 04:10:15 PM +0100, Petr Pisar wrote: That could also affect seemingly unrelated parts of Fedora like Flatpaks whose build process is based on modularity. I can address this. We intend to stop depending on modularity so that we can reliably build Flatpaks even when

Degradated modules support

2023-03-08 Thread Petr Pisar
For module maintainers, module users, and flatpak maintainers: Fedora infrustructure has long-standing problems with supporting modules. Namely, MBS is unable to build modules with deep dependencies and Bodhi is unable to accept multicontext modules