On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 01:00:19PM -0600, Larry Vaden wrote:
Further, interesting (to me) results are below the sig and I would
like your guidance on which package to file against.
What is happening here? Did you make any changes in the ntpdate
sysconfig file or the systemd unit file?
If the
On 02/28/2011 08:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 3:26 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
denni...@conversis.de wrote:
On 02/27/2011 06:36 PM, drago01 wrote:
I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
I think the general problem here
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:46 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 02/28/2011 08:43 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 10:06 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up
On 02/28/2011 01:46 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
These are all rather 'GNOME 3 impressions' than 'F15 Alpha impressions'.
It's probably going to help more to raise them on GNOME mailing lists,
or the Fedora desktop mailing list.
Mangled Billy Shakespeare aside ...
This is a very valid point
On 02/28/2011 07:32 PM, Genes MailLists wrote:
This is a very valid point - the trail of complaints are largely gnome
issues (design, bugs whatever)
What should we fedorans be discussing then ?
There are a number of other changes in Fedora and many of them directly
related to Fedora
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:37 +0100, drago01 wrote:
This bug only seems to address the overshooting issue but not the real
problem of the icon moving away from you mouse pointer. If the appearing
label or summary notification would be considered part of the clickable
area for the icon this
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2011-02-28 at 10:37 +0100, drago01 wrote:
This bug only seems to address the overshooting issue but not the real
problem of the icon moving away from you mouse pointer. If the appearing
label or summary
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 5:56 AM, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote:
The fallback mode is supposed to mimick the gnome-shell behaviour,
within its limited abilities. You won't be able to move the applets, or
fiddle around with it. Think of it as a cut-down version of the shell.
If you
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox
or anything is running, unleses I click on the Activities
Hi,
2011/2/27 Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net:
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox
or
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only removes bout 5 total or
so) and see if that
On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).
Yes the font rendering makes applications look significantly more ugly then
under F14. That was the first thing I noticed after starting Firefox.
When in
2011/2/27 Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:06 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
Yep, try removing the at-spi2* packages (it only
2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
You have to downgrade your system to
accountsservice-libs-0.6.3-3.fc15
accountsservice-0.6.3-3.fc15
libcanberra-0.27-1.fc15
2011/2/27 Christoph Frieben christoph.frie...@googlemail.com:
2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
You have to downgrade your system to
Thanks for the tip,
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I can't tell Firefox
or anything is running, unleses I
On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
snip
I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
try:
$ gsettings set org.gnome.shell.clock show-date true
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Mike Chambers wrote:
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).
freetype-2.4.4-3.fc15 :
* Sun Feb 20 2011 Marek Kasik mka...@redhat.com 2.4.4-3
- Enable bytecode interpreter (#547532).
- Fall back to autohinting if a TTF/OTF doesn't contain
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 11:23 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
On 02/27/2011 09:55 AM, Mike Chambers wrote:
snip
I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
try:
$ gsettings set
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 16:20 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 02/27/2011 03:55 PM, Mike Chambers wrote:
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or
On Sun, 27.02.11 16:37, Christoph Frieben (christoph.frie...@googlemail.com)
wrote:
2011/2/27 Michał Piotrowski:
Have you tried to update to the latest branch version? Today I updated
system and Gnome doesn't start anymore. Anyone else have this problem?
You have to downgrade your system
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Mike Chambers m...@miketc.net wrote:
Fonts or whatever don't seem to be as nice or full looking as other
releases (F14 or below).
When in a program (Evolution for example), it seems this is the only one
I see in the task window/panel or whatever up top. I
One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
I wonder just why this feature
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
fell from the list?
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2011/2/27 Lennart Poettering:
libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
suggest any libcanberra involvement.
You are correct, the cited workaround from bug 680605 was partially
superfluous: downgrading
-
On Sun, 27.02.11 19:00, Christoph Frieben (christoph.frie...@googlemail.com)
wrote:
2011/2/27 Lennart Poettering:
libcanberra? What makes you think lc is involved here?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=680605 ← that doesn't really
suggest any libcanberra involvement.
You
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:36 +0100
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
I wonder just why this feature
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CloudFS
fell from the list?
See
On 02/27/2011 10:20 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
instance is
2011/2/27 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:52:36 +0100
Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com wrote:
One impression - this version will be really feature rich :)
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FeatureList
I wonder just why this feature
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Hi,
I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
instance is already
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:40 +0200, Aurimas wrote:
I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
already running but instead simply click on it in your favorites and if an
instance is
On 02/27/2011 02:41 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
Rumor has it (coff coff) that gnome was infiltrated by kde developers
trying to get their users back
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On Sun, 27.02.11 13:00, Larry Vaden (va...@texoma.net) wrote:
A n00b to Fedora (well, since F3 days, now testing F15 Alpha 2), I
want to file with BugZilla and notice you are involved with some of
the packages involved.
Please direct questions like this to the fedora test list or a similar
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:15:40 +0200, Aurimas wrote:
I think this is sort of intentional. If I understand the way this is
supposed to work correctly then you are not supposed to care if Firefox is
already running
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:43:54 +0100, drago01 wrote:
Have you tried right-click?
Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance
of
the app is running already:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2011-February/097333.html
To start a new
2011/2/27 Michael Schwendt:
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
features alive.
Currently, the suspend-resume cycle is broken even on mainstream
hardware e.g. using the r300g driver. Forcing
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:39 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 21:43:54 +0100, drago01 wrote:
Have you tried right-click?
Right-click is flawed, as it doesn't offer to start the app if no instance
of
the app is running already:
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Christoph Frieben
christoph.frie...@googlemail.com wrote:
2011/2/27 Michael Schwendt:
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
features alive.
Currently, the
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
features alive.
Well the primary purpose of the fallback is to home something for
devices
On 02/27/2011 06:36 PM, drago01 wrote:
I used to be able to hover my mouse over the time and at least it would
tell me the date instead of having to click on it just to see it.
I think the general problem here is that with the advent of tablet and
other touchscreen driven devices the whole
2011/2/27 drago01:
In your case you should define broken and put that into bugzilla ...
which might end up being more productive than that post ;)
A related bug report (#643700) has actually been around in Red Hat
Bugzilla since last fall, thus your criticism is quite bold. I would
actually be
On Sun, 2011-02-27 at 23:18 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 23:03:02 +0100, drago01 wrote:
Btw, I think the GNOME 3 roll-out in Fedora should be all or nothing,
that means, no *competing* fallback mode that tries to keep old panel
features alive.
Well the
on it just to see it.
These are all rather 'GNOME 3 impressions' than 'F15 Alpha impressions'.
It's probably going to help more to raise them on GNOME mailing lists,
or the Fedora desktop mailing list.
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