Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-10-02 Thread Bohdan Khomutskyi
Hello, I filed another change proposal, which is related to the original one: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFSOnDVDByRemovingEXT4FilesystemImageLayer The new proposal does not change compression parameters of the SquashFS image on DVD. On 18/09/2020 12:54, Zbigniew

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-18 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 09:31:59AM +0200, Bohdan Khomutskyi wrote: > Hello Zbyszek, > > > You haven't really answered the "why" part: why is it so important to > save 50MB? And why is the effect on QA less important? > > From my perspective, the storage on the installation medium should > be

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-18 Thread Bohdan Khomutskyi
Hello Zbyszek, > You haven't really answered the "why" part: why is it so important to save 50MB? And why is the effect on QA less important? From my perspective, the storage on the installation medium should be efficiently used. Even though the optimization is just 50MiB, it is an

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > Some people download once, and install once. For > those, it is pay me now, or pay me later, and it may > be a wash, time wise, depending on your download > speeds, but it is also just a one time thing in any > case. Some people download once, and install lots > of times

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-15 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:47 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > There still exist connections as slow as 33 kbps. And no doubt you can find people still using 300 baud TI Silent 700 terminals. However, the global internet speed tests show that the numbers are much higher on average, and we should

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 9/15/20 4:46 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: There still exist connections as slow as 33 kbps. At that speed, 142 MB take at least 10 hours to download (probably more because 1 data byte takes more than 8 raw bits to transfer and because the theoretical speed cannot always be sustained). Depending on

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > Saving 142 MBs isn't going to make a huge difference in download times > (disclaimer: I don't know how is the internet connection > speed in other areas, I have not that fast connection of 200mbps down > (slowest possible in my area), so 142 MB saving would make

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kamil Paral wrote: > Each image is downloaded just once, but installed 1+ times. Most end users install the image exactly once. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-15 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 11:18:04AM +0200, Bohdan Khomutskyi wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Thanks for sharing your ideas and comments about this change. > > Thanks to Mohan Boddu, I got RawHide DVD and netinstall images of > RawHide with the optimization features enabled. Those test composes > are

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-15 Thread Bohdan Khomutskyi
Hello everyone, Thanks for sharing your ideas and comments about this change. Thanks to Mohan Boddu, I got RawHide DVD and netinstall images of RawHide with the optimization features enabled. Those test composes are available at the following locations:

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-07 Thread Bohdan Khomutskyi
Hello Kamil, > Bohdan, could you build the same image in several configurations (the most likely candidates) and share them with us? (We can host them in our QA fedorapeople space, if needed). That would allow interested parties to test and benchmark the experience themselves. I'll provide

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:13:26AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS ... > Based on the results above, I'd suggest selecting the following > ''optimal configuration'': XZ algorithm, with block size of 1MiB and > without BCJ filter (plain xz -b 1M,

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-04 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 6:17 AM John Reiser wrote: > On 2020-09-01 at 12:13 UTC, Kamil Paral wrote: > [[snip]] > > I'd like to ... hugely speed up the installation instead > [[snip]] > > Zstd is faster than xz at de-compression, but a much larger speed > improvement > would be to

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-03 Thread John Reiser
On 2020-09-01 at 12:13 UTC, Kamil Paral wrote: [[snip]] I'd like to ... hugely speed up the installation instead [[snip]] Zstd is faster than xz at de-compression, but a much larger speed improvement would be to parallelize and pipeline "rpm --install". This would benefit both install

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Sep 03, 2020 at 11:30:10AM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:28 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 02:13:21PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > Bohdan, could you build the same image in several configurations (the > > most > > > likely candidates)

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-03 Thread Kamil Paral
On Wed, Sep 2, 2020 at 8:28 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 02:13:21PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > Bohdan, could you build the same image in several configurations (the > most > > likely candidates) and share them with us? (We can host them in our QA > > fedorapeople space,

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Sep 01, 2020 at 02:13:21PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > Bohdan, could you build the same image in several configurations (the most > likely candidates) and share them with us? (We can host them in our QA > fedorapeople space, if needed). That would allow interested parties to test > and

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-01 Thread Chris Murphy
On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 3:22 AM Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM Ben Cotton wrote: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS >> >> == Summary == >> Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation media. >> >> == Owner ==

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-01 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 5:23 AM Frantisek Zatloukal wrote: > > Saving 142 MBs isn't going to make a huge difference in download times > (disclaimer: I don't know how is the internet connection speed in other > areas, I have not that fast connection of 200mbps down (slowest possible in > my

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-01 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 12:55 AM Michel Alexandre Salim < mic...@michel-slm.name> wrote: > On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 11:13 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS > > > > == Summary == > > Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-09-01 Thread Frantisek Zatloukal
On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 5:16 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS > > == Summary == > Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation media. > > == Owner == > * Name: [[User:bkhomuts|Bohdan Khomutskyi]] > * Email: bkhom...@redhat.com

Re: F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-08-27 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thu, 2020-08-27 at 11:13 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS > > == Summary == > Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation > media. > ... > > Based on the results above, I'd suggest selecting the following > ''optimal

F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-08-27 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS == Summary == Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation media. == Owner == * Name: [[User:bkhomuts|Bohdan Khomutskyi]] * Email: bkhom...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == As of Fedora 31, the

F34 Change: Reduce installation media size by improving the compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem (Self-Contained Change)

2020-08-27 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/OptimizeSquashFS == Summary == Improve compression ratio of SquashFS filesystem on the installation media. == Owner == * Name: [[User:bkhomuts|Bohdan Khomutskyi]] * Email: bkhom...@redhat.com == Detailed Description == As of Fedora 31, the