Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 02:00:22PM +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > > (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting > > packages or '--skip-broken' to

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 11:12 AM Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > > (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting > packages or '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) > > This is message for people who are

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > (try to add '--allowerasing' to command line to replace conflicting packages > or '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages) This is message for people who are willing/are able to fix or report things. For regular user this

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 27. 06. 19 v 23:56 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:37:28AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > I wanted to update today, and I got the following report: > $ sudo dnf upgrade --best > Last metadata expiration

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Jaroslav Mracek
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:35 AM Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2019-06-27, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > > > >== Summary == > > Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package > > updates; a package (almost) silently won't get updated

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-28 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2019-06-27, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > >== Summary == > Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package > updates; a package (almost) silently won't get updated to a newer > version if the new version has dependency problems.

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 10:37:28AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best I wanted to update today, and I got the following report: $ sudo dnf upgrade --best Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:18 ago on Thu 27 Jun 2019 10:45:00 PM CEST. Error:

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:25 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best > > == Summary == > Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package updates; > a package (almost) silently won't get updated to a newer version if the new > version has

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Florian Weimer
* Björn Persson: > If I understand this change correctly, then: > > · Before: If one package update is uninstallable, then that package > won't be updated, but other packages can still be updated. > > · After: If one package update is uninstallable, then *nothing* will be > updated. > > And you

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Dan Book
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 12:30 PM Björn Persson wrote: > > If there is a significant risk that the warning will be overlooked, > then how about just making the warning more visible? > > Based on experience with people installing things from CPAN for Perl, there is no "more visible" that has any

Re: Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Björn Persson
If I understand this change correctly, then: · Before: If one package update is uninstallable, then that package won't be updated, but other packages can still be updated. · After: If one package update is uninstallable, then *nothing* will be updated. And you call that an improvement?

Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best == Summary == Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package updates; a package (almost) silently won't get updated to a newer version if the new version has dependency problems. DNF will be changed to prefer updates and

Fedora 31 Self-Contained Change proposal: DNF Make Best Mode the Default

2019-06-27 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DNF_Default_Best == Summary == Currently, DNF prefers clean dependency resolution over package updates; a package (almost) silently won't get updated to a newer version if the new version has dependency problems. DNF will be changed to prefer updates and