Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-25 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Done, with a merge proposal. "[..] We could probably try to merge both tools together by writing down the goals each tool want to achieve. Measuring the usage of transtats would help to identify if some features are to be preserved. Workshop is to be organized to build a plan. Proposed date is

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-18 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LocalizationMeasurementAndTooling It would be good to at least mention Transtats on the Change page as a related project. Jens On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 4:52 AM Jean-Baptiste Holcroft < jibec...@fedoraproject.org> wrote: > Transtats covers 100 packages,

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-14 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Transtats covers 100 packages, while the change darknao and I do the following (stats are for f33): * use dnf to download all srpm for a fedora relaese (21330 packages) * detect po files (2230 packages have at least one po file, more file format exists, but it will be for the future ;)) *

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Jens-Ulrik Petersen
I think it is really worth mentioning here that Transtats already provides a lot of Fedora translation statistics and info. There is certainly more that could be done and we would like to do, to enhance it further... While I know Jean-Baptiste is not

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
I fully agree. My idea would be to help contributors to understand where to go translate each project upstream. The Language-Team attribute probably is good enough to lead a contributor at the right place, here are a few examples for French language: 0ad: "Language-Team: French

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Weblate is a translation platform. Using it to display translations of projects who did not choose to be part of our translation would be equivalent to fork what upstream do. Ubuntu does it with launchpad, but the limit between upstream work and distribution work isn't clear enough. Translators

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 13.01.2021 09:26, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft wrote: Each upstream project decides their translation process. This is a normal workflow. What we will measure with this change, is what is what the Linux ecosystem is delivering to end users. Which should help to make the Linux community more

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 08:26:04AM -, Jean-Baptiste Holcroft wrote: > Hi, > > https://translate.fedoraproject.org/ contains what is specific to Fedora > project (documentation, websites, FAS, etc.) > but most of what is contained in the operating system we build is not > specific to the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Jean-Baptiste Holcroft
Hi, https://translate.fedoraproject.org/ contains what is specific to Fedora project (documentation, websites, FAS, etc.) but most of what is contained in the operating system we build is not specific to the Fedora project. Each upstream project decides their translation process. Gnome:

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 08:14:23AM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 12:42:56PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LocalizationMeasurementAndTooling > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > Provide a public website for end users and

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 12:42:56PM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LocalizationMeasurementAndTooling > > > == Summary == > > Provide a public website for end users and contributors, containing > Fedora Workstation translation progress and useful files for >

Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-04 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LocalizationMeasurementAndTooling == Summary == Provide a public website for end users and contributors, containing Fedora Workstation translation progress and useful files for translators (as an example: translation memories). == Owner == * Name:

Fedora 34 Change: Localization measurement and tooling (Self-Contained Change proposal)

2021-01-04 Thread Ben Cotton
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/LocalizationMeasurementAndTooling == Summary == Provide a public website for end users and contributors, containing Fedora Workstation translation progress and useful files for translators (as an example: translation memories). == Owner == * Name: