Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-03-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 12:29 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 18:08, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 12:06 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 08:32 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > > > > > > > By building I meant

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-03-21 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Wednesday, 16 February 2022 at 18:08, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 12:06 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 08:32 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > > > > > By building I meant it'll probably prevent the *image* from > > > composing, > > > because blueberry is a

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-20 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 20. 02. 22 8:09, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 00:39 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 16. 02. 22 9:03, Adam Williamson wrote: Full version: gnome-shell and mutter 42~beta builds were run yesterday. For Fedora 36 they were done in a sidetag, but for Rawhide, no sidetag yet

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2022-02-20 at 00:39 +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 16. 02. 22 9:03, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Full version: gnome-shell and mutter 42~beta builds were run yesterday. > > For Fedora 36 they were done in a sidetag, but for Rawhide, no sidetag > > yet existed, so unfortunately they went

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-19 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 16. 02. 22 9:03, Adam Williamson wrote: Full version: gnome-shell and mutter 42~beta builds were run yesterday. For Fedora 36 they were done in a sidetag, but for Rawhide, no sidetag yet existed, so unfortunately they went straight to the main Rawhide tag and were included in yesterday's

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-19 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > About a year ago I asked fesco to add > > "In exceptional cases, releng may untag packages." > > https://pagure.io/fesco/fesco-docs/pull-request/40 Well, this is very vague, because nothing defines what an "exceptional case" is. Kevin Kofler

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 01:21:15AM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > AFAIK we've always had that rule. It's always been policy that we don't > > untag once a build has been in a successful compose. I don't think this > > changed "a few years ago", unless I'm

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > AFAIK we've always had that rule. It's always been policy that we don't > untag once a build has been in a successful compose. I don't think this > changed "a few years ago", unless I'm misremembering. Not always: The policy that disallows Rawhide going backwards was

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 21:43 +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > Since the builds have been in a compose, we can't untag them from > > Rawhide, we can only move forwards. > > Why can we not make an exception to this stubborn policy in cases like this? > We did not

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Adam Williamson wrote: > Since the builds have been in a compose, we can't untag them from > Rawhide, we can only move forwards. Why can we not make an exception to this stubborn policy in cases like this? We did not have this rule a few years ago and things worked out just fine. And these

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 12:06 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 08:32 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > > > By building I meant it'll probably prevent the *image* from > > composing, > > because blueberry is a 'mandatory' package in the group, and its > > dependencies will no longer

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Leigh Scott
> On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 08:32 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > > By building I meant it'll probably prevent the *image* from composing, > because blueberry is a 'mandatory' package in the group, and its > dependencies will no longer be satisfied, so liveimage-creator will > choke on that. That's easy

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2022-02-16 at 08:32 +, Leigh Scott wrote: > Hi Adam, > > I'm not the blueberry maintainer anymore. > This change wont prevent the cinnamon spin from building as blueberry is a > python app. By building I meant it'll probably prevent the *image* from composing, because blueberry is

Re: GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Leigh Scott
Hi Adam, I'm not the blueberry maintainer anymore. This change wont prevent the cinnamon spin from building as blueberry is a python app. https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/blueberry/blob/rawhide/f/blueberry.spec#_23 I will raise the issue with the team. Regards, Leigh

GNOME (and Cinnamon) issues in Rawhide: status report, including gnome-bluetooth soname issues

2022-02-16 Thread Adam Williamson
Hey folks! While we're working through fixing this up, I wanted to send out a note about what's going on. tl;dr summary: GNOME is broken in Rawhide, and blueberry (Cinnamon's bluetooth app) may have dep issues temporarily. If you need GNOME to work, downgrade gnome-shell and mutter. Otherwise,