Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-07 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 1:54 AM Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > I think that you are about to miss an important opportunity here. +3000 (well, I guess I am only allowed a +1). For non-niche requirements, I mostly find the primary maintainers are more than willing to add interested parties to the

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-07 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello Terry, On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 12:28 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > > Well I don't want to rock the boat with the maintainer, they are just > doing what they think is expected. > > I will just continue with my own local RPM for our own uses and provide > it for anyone else that is in the same

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-07 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 06/12/2022 16:37, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Terry Barnaby wrote: Well in this case I have created a suitable compat lib, all I did was re-introduce the bits to the SPEC file that removed the building of the compat lib and we are fine. I haven't separated it out from the main ncurses SPEC

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-07 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Wed, 7 Dec 2022 at 15:45, Terry Barnaby wrote: > On 06/12/2022 20:21, Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 2:01 PM Stephen Smoogen > wrote: > >> > >> > >>> > >> I think he would be happy with the policy spelled out in any form. > Something like: > >> > >> While the Fedora Project is

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-07 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 06/12/2022 17:40, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 06. 12. 22 v 17:09 Terry Barnaby napsal(a): On 06/12/2022 15:56, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 06. 12. 22 v 16:44 Terry Barnaby napsal(a): On 06/12/2022 10:40, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-07 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 06/12/2022 20:21, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 2:01 PM Stephen Smoogen wrote: On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 11:27 AM Neal Gompa wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer wrote: On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 2:01 PM Stephen Smoogen wrote: > > > > On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 11:27 AM Neal Gompa wrote: >> > >> > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer >> > wrote: >> > > >> > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Tue, 6 Dec 2022 at 13:50, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 11:27 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: > > > > > >

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 12. 22 v 17:09 Terry Barnaby napsal(a): On 06/12/2022 15:56, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 06. 12. 22 v 16:44 Terry Barnaby napsal(a): On 06/12/2022 10:40, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby wrote: [...] My view is that compat

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 11:27 AM Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > > > > > > On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > > > On Mon,

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Terry Barnaby wrote: > Well in this case I have created a suitable compat lib, all I did was > re-introduce the bits to the SPEC file that removed the building of the > compat lib and we are fine. I haven't separated it out from the main > ncurses SPEC through and have only done this locally as I

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 12/5/22 5:39 AM, Terry Barnaby wrote: With the latest release of Fedora37 we were hit with an issue where the ncurses-compat-libs RPM had been depreciated. Due to this some of the tools we use would no longer install from their respective RPM's or their tar based installs would not run as

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 7:54 AM Josh Boyer wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > > > > On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: > > > > > > On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > > wrote: > > > > On

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Tue, Dec 06, 2022 at 03:44:37PM +, Terry Barnaby wrote: On 06/12/2022 10:40, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby wrote: [...] My view is that compat versions of the commonly used shared libraries for programs that are used on

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 06/12/2022 15:56, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 06. 12. 22 v 16:44 Terry Barnaby napsal(a): On 06/12/2022 10:40, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby wrote: [...] My view is that compat versions of the commonly used shared libraries for

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 12. 22 v 16:44 Terry Barnaby napsal(a): On 06/12/2022 10:40, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby wrote: [...] My view is that compat versions of the commonly used shared libraries for programs that are used on Redhat7 should be

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 06/12/2022 10:40, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby wrote: [...] My view is that compat versions of the commonly used shared libraries for programs that are used on Redhat7 should be kept available until most people are not producing

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 1:43 AM Terry Barnaby wrote: > > On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: > > > On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel > wrote: > > On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > I am wondering what Fedora's

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-06 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Tuesday, 06 December 2022 at 07:43, Terry Barnaby wrote: [...] > My view is that compat versions of the commonly used shared libraries > for programs that are used on Redhat7 should be kept available until > most people are not producing programs for that system at least > +nyears and then I

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
On 05/12/2022 16:00, Jarek Prokop wrote: On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared libraries and particularly compat

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: >> I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared >> libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? > > Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution. If you need old versions, you > should try CentOS or RHEL. Or

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Jarek Prokop
On 12/5/22 14:57, Peter Robinson wrote: On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? Fedora is a bleeding edge

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 08:56, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Stephen Smoogen: > > > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is reaching its EOL in 1 year and 29 > > weeks. Getting code to compile for it on newer OS's is harder and > > packagers volunteer time is limited. > > For official information on support

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:01 PM Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: > > I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared > > libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? > > Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution. If you need old versions,

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephen Smoogen: > Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 is reaching its EOL in 1 year and 29 > weeks. Getting code to compile for it on newer OS's is harder and > packagers volunteer time is limited. For official information on support life-cycles, please consider this official resource: Red Hat

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 05/12/2022 12:39, Terry Barnaby wrote: I am wondering what Fedora's policy is on depreciated old shared libraries and particularly compat RPM's ? Fedora is a bleeding edge distribution. If you need old versions, you should try CentOS or RHEL. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev

Re: Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Stephen Smoogen
On Mon, 5 Dec 2022 at 06:45, Terry Barnaby wrote: > Hi, > > With the latest release of Fedora37 we were hit with an issue where the > ncurses-compat-libs > RPM had been depreciated. Due to this some of the tools we use would no > longer install from their respective RPM's or their tar based

Policy on supporting old and external software packages and compat RPMS

2022-12-05 Thread Terry Barnaby
Hi, With the latest release of Fedora37 we were hit with an issue where the ncurses-compat-libs RPM had been depreciated. Due to this some of the tools we use would no longer install from their respective RPM's or their tar based installs would not run as they needed the libncurses*5.so