On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 12:16 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> For background here, see:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849
>
> right now, when installing Fedora alongside a Windows install with
> BitLocker enabled, trying to boot Windows from the Fedora boot menu
> does not work.
Brian C. Lane wrote:
> We have reached a point where boot security is important enough
LOL!
> that Windows is now only allowing their bootloader to be used.
It is blatantly obvious that that is actually the goal, not the means.
This is clearly a vendor lock-in "feature", with "security" used
On Tue, 2022-09-20 at 11:48 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said:
> > An additional topic is having boot entries for Windows (and macOS) that
> > don't work in the meantime. While we could just remove the scripts that
> > create these entries to chainload another
Once upon a time, Chris Murphy said:
> An additional topic is having boot entries for Windows (and macOS) that don't
> work in the meantime. While we could just remove the scripts that create
> these entries to chainload another bootloader, they're still needed for BIOS
> systems which don't
On Tue, Sep 20, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 12:16:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>> "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
>> existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can
>> boot into both Windows and
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 12:16:33PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
> existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can
> boot into both Windows and Fedora."
>
> to say:
>
> "The installer must be able to
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 1:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
> existing clean Windows installation and install a bootloader which can
> boot into both Windows and Fedora."
>
> to say:
>
> "The installer must be able to install
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
> The only way to get the TPM state to match not using a particular loader
> is to not use a loader - i.e., have grub2 (or efibootmgr in Fedora
> userspace) set EFI BootNext and reboot the machine.
I know systemd-boot does implement
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022 at 9:17 PM Adam Williamson
wrote:
> "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an
> existing clean Windows installation. As long as the Windows
> installation does not have BitLocker enabled, the installer must also
> install a bootloader which can boot
On 20-09-2022 07:12, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
I'm fine with the proposed change. I'm also fine with the
original text.
During boot, certain actions are taken that are recorded in the
TPM. These include, for instance, any loaders that are
On Mon, Sep 19, 2022, at 2:45 PM, Robbie Harwood wrote:
> I'm fine with the proposed change. I'm also fine with the original
> text.
>
> During boot, certain actions are taken that are recorded in the TPM.
> These include, for instance, any loaders that are run - like grub2. The
> result is
Once upon a time, Robbie Harwood said:
> So: if you install Windows and set up Bitlocker booting through grub, it
> will continue to work through grub. If you install Windows outside grub
> (or it's pre-provisioned), it will continue to work outside grub. If
> you want to move from not using
On 9/19/22 16:45, Robbie Harwood wrote:
> Adam Williamson writes:
>
>> For background here, see:
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849
>>
>> right now, when installing Fedora alongside a Windows install with
>> BitLocker enabled, trying to boot Windows from the Fedora boot menu
On Mon, 2022-09-19 at 16:45 -0400, Robbie Harwood wrote:
> Adam Williamson writes:
>
> > For background here, see:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849
> >
> > right now, when installing Fedora alongside a Windows install with
> > BitLocker enabled, trying to boot Windows
Adam Williamson writes:
> For background here, see:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2049849
>
> right now, when installing Fedora alongside a Windows install with
> BitLocker enabled, trying to boot Windows from the Fedora boot menu
> does not work.
>
> We waived the bug as a
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