On 15. 11. 2014 at 14:51:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jan Silhan wrote:
3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or not?
DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish
behavior.
It's
Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
On 15. 11. 2014 at 14:51:32, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jan Silhan wrote:
3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or not?
DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that
Jan Silhan wrote:
3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or not?
DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish
behavior.
It's not hackish, it's configurable. Letting the user decide
Jan Silhan jsil...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or not?
DNF doesn't do that and never will. IMO that would be too hackish
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Björn Persson bjorn@rombobjörn.se wrote:
Jan Silhan jsil...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
3. The page says The depsolver may offer to treat the weak like very
weak relations or the other way round does dnf do that? or
On Sat, 2014-11-15 at 14:51 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
It's not hackish, it's configurable. Letting the user decide
whether
they want to have weak dependencies installed or not is part of the
whole
point of having them.
I agree. --no-recommends is a very basic feature of package managers
On 11/10/2014 06:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
I'd personally say people shouldn't start using this... we should be
able to work up the cases or whatever... it just means that in f21
people using yum (the default) will get sometimes different behavior
from dnf (not yet the default).
But F21 is
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:34:16 +0100
Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
Dnf should already have full support of this feature, at least that
is the plan. Some people already tested it and so far it seems it
works as expected. The semantics
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Dne 10.11.2014 v 18:31 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
We invite anyone to start using this feature to help us sand off the
rough edges. Any contribution (documentation, bug reports,
patches, ...) will help us. We would just like to ask you for
patience,
Dne 11.11.2014 v 09:14 Vít Ondruch napsal(a):
Dne 10.11.2014 v 18:31 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a):
We invite anyone to start using this feature to help us sand off the
rough edges. Any contribution (documentation, bug reports,
patches, ...) will help us. We would just like to ask you for
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:31:55, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:34:16 +0100
Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
Dnf should already have full support of this feature, at least that
is the plan. Some people already tested it and so far it seems it
works as expected. The semantics
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Subject: Re: Status of weak dependencies support in Fedora 21+
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:26:50PM +0100
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:54:35PM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
I don't think it is ok to start using
On 8. 11. 2014 at 16:49:18, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:54:35 +0400
Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with
On 10. 11. 2014 at 10:04:53, Michal Sekletar wrote:
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 09:54:35PM +0400, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote:
snip
However, what I'm not sure about is whether it's already possible to build
weak-deps enhanced rpms in Fedora, has someone tested that? I've heard it's
possible in COPR but I'm not sure about koji.
I tested this and building
On 10. 11. 2014 at 13:16:58, Michal Sekletar wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote:
snip
However, what I'm not sure about is whether it's already possible to build
weak-deps enhanced rpms in Fedora, has someone tested that? I've heard
it's
possible in COPR
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 13:46:54 +0100
Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
On 10. 11. 2014 at 13:16:58, Michal Sekletar wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 10:45:05AM +0100, Jan Zelený wrote:
snip
However, what I'm not sure about is whether it's already possible
to build weak-deps enhanced
On Mon, 10 Nov 2014 10:34:16 +0100
Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote:
Dnf should already have full support of this feature, at least that
is the plan. Some people already tested it and so far it seems it
works as expected. The semantics is described here:
On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:26:50PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
Well if you have package foo that suggests bar and you do
dnf/yum install foo it should simply install both, but if you do
yum/dnf remove bar it should leave foo installed.
But neither is implemented.
Because you're using Suggests,
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
I have a real-world example where I'd like to mark a dependency as
Suggests instead of Requires and want
On 8 November 2014 10:54, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
I have a real-world example
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
On 8 November 2014 10:54, Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
On Sat, 8 Nov 2014 21:54:35 +0400
Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All!
RPM shipped with Fedora 21+ has support for weak dependencies. What's
the current status of that feature? Is it ok to start using them
(building RPM with Recommends/Suggests tags)?
My understanding:
rpm -
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