Dne 17. 08. 21 v 22:38 Iago Rubio napsal(a):
On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 18:26 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
He got an sponsor right away and became the maintainer of the
package,
without changing a line of what I had in csv.
That's very odd. The guidelines remain the same for all of us. So a
spec
that
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 11:54:53 +0200, Iago Rubio wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:48 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > This is from 2006/2007. That's more than a decade ago :)
> >
> > A lot of things have changed since then. If you're interested in
> > package
> > maintainership, please give it
On Wed, 2021-08-18 at 09:48 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> This is from 2006/2007. That's more than a decade ago :)
>
> A lot of things have changed since then. If you're interested in
> package
> maintainership, please give it another go and let us know how it
> goes.
I will go for it Ankur. You
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 22:38:19 +0200, Iago Rubio wrote:
> On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 18:26 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > > He got an sponsor right away and became the maintainer of the
> > > package,
> > > without changing a line of what I had in csv.
> >
> > That's very odd. The guidelines remain the
On Tue, 2021-08-17 at 18:26 +0100, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> > He got an sponsor right away and became the maintainer of the
> > package,
> > without changing a line of what I had in csv.
>
> That's very odd. The guidelines remain the same for all of us. So a
> spec
> that didn't pass a review the
On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 18:47:37 +0200, Iago Rubio wrote:
> On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 09:04 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > I think there's some idea to rescue here. I agree that adopting
> > orphaned packages can be harder than it seems, but OTOH, it's a task
> > that has big benefits for
On Sat, 2021-08-14 at 09:04 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> I think there's some idea to rescue here. I agree that adopting
> orphaned packages can be harder than it seems, but OTOH, it's a task
> that has big benefits for the community. In the past, the recommended
> way to become a
Hello Pavel,
Thank you for your thoughts. It strikes me that perhaps what you're
advising me to do, is likely what I was wanting to do in the first
place. I certainly don't feel dissatisfied being a non-packager in
Fedora land, and I am probably a bit guilty of exageration of the
difficulties on
On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 1:38 PM Stephen Snow wrote:
> Hello Dan,
> Thank you for reaching out with your response. I have to admit, I was
> in a provocotive mood the other day. I had solved a problem for a
> customer that had been worked on unsuccessfully by a local competitor
> for three weeks.
On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 11:57:57 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote:
> I wonder what are the requirements for using Copr? FAS account, but is there
> anything else? I think that maintaining packages in Copr for a while just to
> gain experience/confidence could deserve better promotion.
I think an FAS is
I wonder what are the requirements for using Copr? FAS account, but is
there anything else? I think that maintaining packages in Copr for a
while just to gain experience/confidence could deserve better promotion.
BTW there is also Fedora Join SIG which focuses on improving of
newcomers
* Vitaly Zaitsev via devel:
> Building Java apps in your home directory with Internet access is a
> trivial task. The official Fedora builds has no network access, so you
> need to unbundle all dependencies into a separate packages first. This
> is the main problem.
In the build-on-demand Java
Jack Frost wrote:
> >I tried to "take" an orphaned package ... can't not a packager, so I
> >tried to do a review, and even though I appear to be part of the group,
> >I couldn't even access the review build because apparently I don't have
> >the rights.
[I think this is a misunderstanding. There
On 13/08/2021 13:37, Stephen Snow wrote:
I have built RPM's and SRPM's according to RedHat specifications, I
think using their tutorials.
Fedora has its own RPM packaging guidelines:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/
Even if the
barriers are only perceived ones. The
Hello Dan,
Thank you for reaching out with your response. I have to admit, I was
in a provocotive mood the other day. I had solved a problem for a
customer that had been worked on unsuccessfully by a local competitor
for three weeks. I was at that moment the master of my trade craft and
in fully
I'd also like to plug Jakub's new sponsor page:
https://docs.pagure.org/fedora-sponsors/all
There you can find all currently active sponsors by language, interest, etc.
Cheers,
Dan
On August 12, 2021 7:29:10 AM UTC, Felix Schwarz
wrote:
>Hi Stephen,
>
>thank you for your interest in
Hi Stephen,
thank you for your interest in contributing to Fedora. I can totally understand
that the current policies may seem overwhelming so that becoming a packager
might be seen as some kind of "elite" status.
I think I would feel the same way if I didn't become a packager ~10 years ago.
On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 13:26 -0400, Stephen Snow wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 18:44 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> > * Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 12:08] :
> > >
> > > > > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary
> > > > > obstacles.
> > > >
> > > Wasn't able to download
On 11. 08. 21 19:51, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
If the package was orphaned more than 8 weeks ago, you must open a new releng
ticket.
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Policy_for_orphan_and_retired_packages/
Correction: If the package was *retired* more than 8 weeks ago.
--
I think becoming a packager is not as complicated as you’ve written. To
become a packager, you must convince a packager sponsor to sponsor you.
That’s all; there is no rule about how to do the convincing.
Sponsors want to be confident that you understand and are likely to
follow the packaging
On 11/08/2021 17:55, Stephen Snow wrote:
- Get someone to sponsor you as a packager
- Review existing packages for others
Package sponsors should make sure new contributors are familiar with RPM
packaging and Fedora guidelines.
introduce a package to Fedora Linux that needs to get
On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 18:44 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> * Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 12:08] :
> >
> > > > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary
> > > > obstacles.
> > >
> > Wasn't able to download the build via the link provided.
>
> ???
> Building a package with
* Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 12:08] :
>
> > > Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary
> > > obstacles.
> >
> Wasn't able to download the build via the link provided.
???
Building a package with mock will create the build in /var/lib/mock/...
No download should be required.
On Wed, 2021-08-11 at 14:20 +0200, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
> * Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 11:37] :
> >
> > I feel the frustration you are expressing, and would like to help,
> > nut
> > apparently I don't meet the Fedora Packaging standards.
>
> I'm curious as to what happened...
Not sure what
Okay,
So to become a packager you have to
- Get someone to sponsor you as a packager
- Review existing packages for others
- take over an orphaned package
- introduce a package to Fedora Linux that needs to get approval to
be packaged
- some other criteria I forgot after reading so many
* Stephen Snow [11/08/2021 11:37] :
>
> I feel the frustration you are expressing, and would like to help, nut
> apparently I don't meet the Fedora Packaging standards.
I'm curious as to what happened...
> Even tried the review route, which is also beset with arbitrary obstacles.
Again, what
On 11/08/2021 13:37, Stephen Snow wrote:
making joining the packaging group(s) a bit more open would go a long way to
garnering more packagers IMO
New contributors must know at least the Fedora packaging guidelines.
This is the minimum barrier.
If someone doesn't want to read and follow
Hello Fabio,
I was one of those community members to step up, or at least attempt to. What I
found was an obstacle course instead of welcome to the packagers. I feel the
frustration you are expressing, and would like to help, nut apparently I don't
meet the Fedora Packaging standards. Even
On 4/26/21 10:19 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get me started
Hi,
On 4/29/21 12:00 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:47 PM Hans de Goede wrote:
>> Also I hope it is ok if I pick your brain a bit on a java
>> packaging issue which I've been having.
>>
>> I maintain a couple of java leave packages (games) + some deps
>>
Hi Hans,
On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 3:47 PM Hans de Goede wrote:
> Also I hope it is ok if I pick your brain a bit on a java
> packaging issue which I've been having.
>
> I maintain a couple of java leave packages (games) + some deps
> which AFAIK are only used by these games.
>
> One of these deps
Hi Mikolaj,
On 4/27/21 4:49 PM, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:26 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>> I will orphan all Java packages I am the main admin of, later today.
>
> I've adopted the majority of Java packages that were orphaned by Fabio,
> primarily those that are related
Hi Fabio,
On 4/26/21 9:19 PM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get
Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion, but IMO Maven in Fedora should be built the
> same way as upstream builds it, that is with Maven. That minimizes the
> possibility of deviating from upstream and introducing unnoticed bugs.
> Instead a custom project was created that is used to
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 20:20, Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get
On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 5:18 PM Dan Čermák
wrote:
>
> Hi Mikolaj,
>
> Mikolaj Izdebski writes:
>
> > 5) automating the process of bootstrapping Maven and Ant with related
> > components, so that new versions can be imported and built
> > reproducibly and with consistent quality.
>
> You
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 1:20 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get me started on the
On 27. 04. 21 16:49, Mikolaj Izdebski wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:26 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
I will orphan all Java packages I am the main admin of, later today.
I've adopted the majority of Java packages that were orphaned by Fabio,
primarily those that are related to Maven or Ant.
Hi Mikolaj,
Mikolaj Izdebski writes:
> 5) automating the process of bootstrapping Maven and Ant with related
> components, so that new versions can be imported and built
> reproducibly and with consistent quality.
You might want to take a look at openSUSE's maven package:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 9:26 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> I will orphan all Java packages I am the main admin of, later today.
I've adopted the majority of Java packages that were orphaned by Fabio,
primarily those that are related to Maven or Ant.
I've been maintaining numerous Java packages in
* Fabio Valentini [26/04/2021 21:19] :
>
> I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem.
Thank you for all the work you've done, Fabio.
Emmanuel
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 21:19:44 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't
On Mon, 2021-04-26 at 21:19 +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 10:26 PM Fabio Valentini
wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 09:19:44PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get me
On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 3:26 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get me started on
On Mon, 26 Apr 2021 at 15:20, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
> maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
> them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
> don't get
Hi everybody,
Long story short, I can no longer in good conscience be the primary
maintainer of (most) Java packages in Fedora. I am not using any of
them, I don't like Java or any other languages targeting the JVM, and
don't get me started on the horrid Java ecosystem. Recently I've been
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