Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-18 Thread Susi Lehtola
On 04/18/2017 12:17 AM, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: I believe that everyone comes from MS Windows to Linux will need to YAST, currently it provides many modules that makes system management very easy: * service management, what services are running, what are stopped, and user can change

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-18 Thread Justin Forbes
On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 7:19 AM, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Adam Williamson >>> It was tried for >>> Fedora years ago, and discarded with a passion. >> >> What 'was tried for Fedora'? What are you referring to? > > Linuxconf, which was much

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-18 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
I believe that everyone comes from MS Windows to Linux will need to YAST, currently it provides many modules that makes system management very easy: * service management, what services are running, what are stopped, and user can change their status. * systemd control * hardware configuration

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-14 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: >> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon >> wrote: >> > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:23 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > > > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > >

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: >> > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: >> > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach. >> > >> >

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread William Moreno
Fedora now have cockpit, it is a nice shell for some administrative tasks in the system ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Justin Forbes
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 11:40 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 09:14 -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: >> Actually isn't Cockpit our 'YAST', I mean it is not a 1to1 thing, but >> for a lot of things Cockpit provides the featureset a sysadmin would >>

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 09:14 -0400, Christian Schaller wrote: > Actually isn't Cockpit our 'YAST', I mean it is not a 1to1 thing, but > for a lot of things Cockpit provides the featureset a sysadmin would > want. Yeah, Cockpit is an interesting one. But I see it as being a sort of webapp 'desktop

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 07:45 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > > > You seem to have missed this in Adam's email > > No, I don't missed anything. > > > i) just getting things right so we don't need a giant pile of >

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 8:22 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: >> Hello, SUSE distributions have a system control panel that can configure >> many aspects of the system. It is the best feature I saw in SUSE, it is very >>

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Chris Murphy
what's left, but I'd sooner look for enhancement elsewhere than include YaST in Fedora. Chris Murphy ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > Hello, SUSE distributions have a system control panel that can configure many > aspects of the system. It is the best feature I saw in SUSE, it is very > interesting, useful and beneficial for all users. > > * Why Fedora does not

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Christian Schaller
scussions related to Fedora" > <devel@lists.fedoraproject.org> > Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2017 2:02:57 AM > Subject: Re: YAST for Fedora? > > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > Hello, SUSE distributions have a system control panel that c

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Clement Verna
> > "so we don't need" What is his mean about "WE" ?! > I believe "WE" should be read as the Community, and the Community includes a lot of different type of users. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
> On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > You seem to have missed this in Adam's email No, I don't missed anything. > i) just getting things right so we don't need a giant pile of > configuration tools > ii) tools written at more appropriate layers, mainly

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 07:04:57AM -, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach. > > > > It's not really a question of resources, but of not thinking this is > > the correct

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
> On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > Because we think it's fundamentally a wrong approach. > > It's not really a question of resources, but of not thinking this is > the correct approach. What is the correct approach?! Wasting lots of time on: * reading

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
As someone who came to Fedora from openSUSE, yeah, Adam, YaST is definitely a bad approach. It was great for things I did *once* when I set up a box, but for the stuff I did regularly - install / uninstall packages, build stuff from source, etc. - the command line tools beat the crap out of GUIs.

Re: YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 04:05 +, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote: > Hello, SUSE distributions have a system control panel that can configure many > aspects of the system. It is the best feature I saw in SUSE, it is very > interesting, useful and beneficial for all users. > > * Why Fedora does not

YAST for Fedora?

2017-04-12 Thread Farhad Mohammadi Majd
Hello, SUSE distributions have a system control panel that can configure many aspects of the system. It is the best feature I saw in SUSE, it is very interesting, useful and beneficial for all users. * Why Fedora does not have such tool? * How much money is need to develop such tool from