On 19/07/16 16:51, Klaus Wenninger wrote:
On 07/19/2016 04:33 PM, Oyvind Albrigtsen wrote:
On 19/07/16 14:35, Lars Ellenberg wrote:
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 11:13:42AM -0500, Ken Gaillot wrote:
A suggestion came up recently to formalize a new version of the OCF
resource agent API standard[1].

The main goal would be to formalize the API as it is actually used
today, and to replace the "unique" meta-data attribute with two new
attributes indicating uniqueness and reloadability. We could also add
the fence agent API as a new spec, or expand the RA spec to cover both.
might think of alert-agents here as well ...
Good idea. That might be nice to include as well.

having ambivalent thoughts about it myself:

- new feature that might be altered as result of feedback frequently,
maybe in an incompatible way
   so putting effort into formalizing the API might not be worth it or
even make it harder to do
   incompatible changes
- formalizing the API together with the other agent-APIs might foster
usage of the feature -
   create feedback - lead to quicker approximation of the feature

The Open Cluster Framework (OCF) was originally created in 2003 as a
working group of the Free Standards Group, which itself was absorbed
into the Linux Foundation in 2007. Today, OCF isn't even listed among
the Linux Foundation's workgroups[2].

The opencf.org domain name (and, IIRC, website) is owned by Linbit.
To link with the last few times this came up:

   From: Lars Ellenberg, 2015-02-10 20:44:40 GMT
   Reviving the OCF OpenCF.org Open cluster framework
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.clustering.opencf.general/31/focus=31
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.clustering.opencf.general/31/focus=46

^^ that one seems relevant.
Basically "we all" agreed that $someone should do $something,
and we would point all available pointers we still
have control over to the result.

As it frequently is, no-one felt to be $someone,
and so $something still needs to be done :-)
I can take care of formalizing the new OCF API.


Oyvind
Thanks for picking it up again!

Re "LF work group": I'm very bad with bureaucracy myself...

Older:

   From: Marek "marx" Grac, 2014-10-27 10:23:05 GMT
   Who will maintain OCF standard? Proposal for changes in DTD for
fence/resource agents
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.clustering.opencf.general/21
(in which Linbit was given opencf and linux-ha domains)

   ...
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.clustering.opencf.general/

Does anyone have opinions about this, or suggestions about where to
start? Should we keep it on the mailing lists, and focus on the RA API?
Or should we figure out the status of OCF itself as an entity, and
resurrect it somehow?

[1]
http://www.opencf.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/specs/ra/resource-agent-api.txt?rev=HEAD

[2] http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups
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