Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-30 Thread Meta via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:31:21 UTC, Murilo wrote: In the past 2 weeks we went from 225 to 240 members in our Facebook group(https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProgrammingInDlang), an average of a person per day. First it was an average of a person per month or less. I wonder if someone

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-30 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 02:31:36 UTC, Murilo wrote: On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That is a deliberate attempt to fracture. I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Paulo Pinto via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 02:31:36 UTC, Murilo wrote: On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That is a deliberate attempt to fracture. I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wednesday, 30 December 2020 at 02:31:36 UTC, Murilo wrote: On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That is a deliberate attempt to fracture. I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread H. S. Teoh via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 02:31:36AM +, Murilo via Digitalmars-d-announce wrote: > On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: > > No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That is > > a deliberate attempt to fracture. No, that's reading more

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Murilo via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: No, the OP clearly stated that he made the group "official". That is a deliberate attempt to fracture. I'm sorry you see it like this but my intention when I created the group was to expand Dlang by bringing it to places

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Murilo via Digitalmars-d-announce
I'm happy it's working for you, but please do not present it as an "official" group. That implies the foundation is involved in operating it. Okay, sorry about that.

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:36:47 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: I see what you are saying, but that is a "controlling" position to hold. Once a language break into the mainstream, there is no way to control the community. Any attempt to contain the community to this or that medium is

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: The topic is what approach is more strategic. I see what you are saying, but that is a "controlling" position to hold. Once a language break into the mainstream, there is no way to control the community. Any attempt

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:16:24 UTC, Adam D. Ruppe wrote: On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: hostile ad hominem tone [...] deliberate attempt to fracture. tu quoque. Let's not assume any motives here. I wouldn't call it "official" either (and

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Adam D. Ruppe via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 15:06:07 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: hostile ad hominem tone [...] deliberate attempt to fracture. tu quoque. Let's not assume any motives here. I wouldn't call it "official" either (and indeed, the title on facebook doesn't include that word) but no

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 14:53:43 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Sorry but I don't think you get it. So, this hostile ad hominem tone is why it is beneficial with local groups... I've studied online communities for

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Not quite, if you split up then each community might have stronger social bonding, but in terms of aggregating helpful advice you will be worse off. It would be suitable for geographic groups (e.g. for a country/city).

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 13:04:42 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote: You have a valid point, but still I am sure the facebook group is a net positive for the community. I'd see it as a digital version of a local user group. It certainly has some benefits, especially in the past when there

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 13:04:42 UTC, Tobias Pankrath wrote: You have a valid point, but still I am sure the facebook group is a net positive for the community. I'd see it as a digital version of a local user group. Yeah, I see no problem with the group existing. I think it's

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Tobias Pankrath via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: Not quite, if you split up then each community might have stronger social bonding, but in terms of aggregating helpful advice you will be worse off. It would be suitable for geographic groups (e.g. for a country/city).

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 11:34:38 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad wrote: For instance slashdot is very poor in social boding terms, but much better than the dlang forums for aggregating helpful advice. So the "learn" forum is beneficial socially, but does erode the slashdot presence.

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Ola Fosheim Grøstad via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 10:52:53 UTC, Guillaume Piolat wrote: On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 09:05:45 UTC, aberba wrote: So I'm sure the Facebook group will appeal to a certain audience who use Facebook. I've been a part of all sorts of Facebook groups related to my stack and I've

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread Guillaume Piolat via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 09:05:45 UTC, aberba wrote: So I'm sure the Facebook group will appeal to a certain audience who use Facebook. I've been a part of all sorts of Facebook groups related to my stack and I've come to the understand it's what certain people even prefer. +1 It's

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread aberba via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:31:21 UTC, Murilo wrote: In the past 2 weeks we went from 225 to 240 members in our Facebook group(https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProgrammingInDlang), an average of a person per day. First it was an average of a person per month or less. I wonder if someone

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-29 Thread drug via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/29/20 1:42 AM, Ali Çehreli wrote: On 12/28/20 9:31 AM, Murilo wrote: > they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of that group. +1

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-28 Thread Mike Parker via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Tuesday, 29 December 2020 at 00:38:40 UTC, Murilo wrote: And apart from all that, having an official FB group serves to show Dlang is growing strong and proud, it shows the world that Dlang is not dead(most people think it is). I'm happy it's working for you, but please do not present

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-28 Thread Murilo via Digitalmars-d-announce
Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of that group. So, can the open source community be a part of Facebook groups *without* a Facebook account? Even if the groups would be open to the public, why would

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-28 Thread Daniel Kozak via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 11:45 PM Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d-announce < digitalmars-d-announce@puremagic.com> wrote: > On 12/28/20 9:31 AM, Murilo wrote: > > > they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, > > Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will > never have

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-28 Thread Ali Çehreli via Digitalmars-d-announce
On 12/28/20 9:31 AM, Murilo wrote: > they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, Not only unnecessary but divisive as well. For example, because I will never have a Facebook account I would never be a part of that group. So, can the open source community be a part of Facebook groups

Re: Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-28 Thread bachmeier via Digitalmars-d-announce
On Monday, 28 December 2020 at 17:31:21 UTC, Murilo wrote: I'm very happy, at first the people here did not like my idea, they thought a Facebook group was unnecessary, but what is the biggest social media in the world? Facebook! So that's is the best way to communicate with the world and

Our community seems to have grown, so many people are joining the Facebook group

2020-12-28 Thread Murilo via Digitalmars-d-announce
In the past 2 weeks we went from 225 to 240 members in our Facebook group(https://www.facebook.com/groups/ProgrammingInDlang), an average of a person per day. First it was an average of a person per month or less. I wonder if someone has advertised the group or the world is finally embracing