RE: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-30 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Steve, Why wouldn't the MIL-STD-118-110x (FS-1052) and high speed serial tone modes not be legal under Part 97? There used to be a bunch of hams on the East Coast who ran the Fredericks(sp) version of the Harris Serial Tone Modem on HF and at least one was an FCC engineer. One of the groups

RE: [digitalradio] Using 8FSK ARQ in PCALE (Re: ALE QRM is minimal)

2006-08-30 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
Why not run 64 tones with FSK at 50 baud or 64 tones with OQPSK at 50 baud? Shucks, for that matter how about 128 tones using QAM64 at 50 baud? Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:06 PM To:

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-30 Thread Steve Hajducek
Hi Walt, I guess you mean the Frederick 1102 made under license from Harris? I have one of those actually. They are strictly to the standard, 1800hz PSK carrier, 2400bps symbol rate, the needed channel BW is 300-3300hz (3Khz) at any supported data rate (75-2400bps coded). Its that symbol

[digitalradio] which pocket pc?

2006-08-30 Thread hamn9iif
i have a tigertronics sl1 plus and a yaesu ft-817nd, looking for a inexpensive pocket pc,the type with the folding screen can anyone tell what would work? windows ce or windows mobile? like to try psk31,rtty portable thanks jack n9iif Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-30 Thread DuBose Walt Civ AETC CONS/LGCA
What is this 300 symbol/sec limit? I don't see that in Part 97. §97.305(c) of this Part. (1) No angle-modulated emission may have a modulation index greater than 1 at the highest modulation frequency. (2) No non-phone emission shall exceed the bandwidth of a

RE: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-30 Thread wa7nwp
that symbol rate, its to high, it exceeds the 300 symbol/sec limit per FCC Part 97. Why would the symbol rate be an issue in the regulations? Why would anything like that matter if the data is constrained by bandwidth? Or is the basis of the our rules are holding you back statements by the

[digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-30 Thread Dave Bernstein
I'm not a lawyer either, Walt, but the 300 baud symbol rate limitation from §97.305(c)(3) below applies to a RTTY or data emission, not the individual components of that emission IMHO. You and I have discussed this potential loophole in the past, and my advice was to run it up the flagpole

Re: [digitalradio] Using 8FSK ARQ in PCALE (Re: ALE QRM is minimal)

2006-08-30 Thread KV9U
Walt and group, My understanding is that the 64QAM mode of the DRM programs being used by SSTV operators does not work well on HF frequencies unless you have near perfect conditions. What are the opinions on the how well multipath and difficult conditions are handled by these different

[digitalradio] Elecraft K2 for digital modes

2006-08-30 Thread Nacho
Hi all, I´m thinking about to build Elecraft K2 kit with SSB option for working in digital modes, but I have received some comments about this rig is not enought apropiate for digital modes because it hasn´t enought stability It has a very good receiver and CW transceiver, but not for digital

[digitalradio] Maximum baud rate limitation

2006-08-30 Thread KV9U
The 300 baud issue was something that the ARRL Digital Voice Working Group Task Force brought up in Jan 2003: http://www.arrl.org/announce/reports-03/digi-voice.html In their minutes, under item 3B: B) Support a rule interpretation that allows multimedia operation based on the primary content

[digitalradio] Re: Elecraft K2 for digital modes

2006-08-30 Thread mulveyraa2
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Nacho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I´m thinking about to build Elecraft K2 kit with SSB option for working in digital modes, but I have received some comments about this rig is not enought apropiate for digital modes because it hasn´t enought

[digitalradio] PACTOR 1

2006-08-30 Thread Art Marshall
Is anyone doing Pactor 1 on HF, and if so what HF freqs can I find some activity. 73's, Art Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol:

Re: [digitalradio] PACTOR 1

2006-08-30 Thread John Becker
Yes Art there is a lot of Pactor 1 on the air. You have to look for it as most are using the sound card modes. But those of us that have the hardware are all over the place. Most don't see us because they are hanging out around 14,070. John, W0JAB At 09:56 PM 8/30/2006, you wrote: Is anyone

[digitalradio] USA; Baud Limit = 300 Symbols Per Second (HF Digital Data)

2006-08-30 Thread expeditionradio
It appears that USA hams are the only ones in the world operating under the thumb of such an obsolete 300 baud limit for digital data on HF! As far as I have been able to research, the rest of the world's hams have no such 300 baud limitation placed upon them. The USA FCC rule is 300 baud

Re: [digitalradio] Re: ALE QRM is minimal

2006-08-30 Thread KV9U
Steve, Ideally, it would be something you would want to share as a collaborative effort. Without this type of effort on the part of a few hams (Patrick being one, along with Dave's DX Lab software), we would not have the incredible synergy that these two programs bring to nearly any amateur