Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
but.. I think the original question also asked about modes other than PSK31, what about them?JT65A, for example is not a mode that once has to watch ALC so much. Does anyone have a good easy to understand description of why ? Andy On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:42 PM, DANNY DOUGLAS

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Rick Westerfield
As I think I understand it, JT65 and it's varients are all very slowly modulated which makes the waveform extremely robust. ALC, noise, flutter, Doppler shift and intersymbol interference all have a very tough time making much of an impact on such an incredibly rugged signal as JT65. But this

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Simon HB9DRV
A rough and ready explanation could be that modes which rely on phase are degraded when you compress the TX signal (ALC displayed) - for phase modes you must transmit a 100% clean signal, much more important then signal strength. Simon Brown, HB9DRV http://sdr-radio.com From:

[digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread sholtofish
Following on from this thread and reading some of Peter's comments makes me wonder what method is best for 300 baud HF packet with a TNC? FSK or AFSK? Or won't it make any difference? Will FSK result in a wider bandwidth? 73 Sholto K7TMG

[digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com is announcing a new mode, weak signal. Web site is down currently ...anyone tried the new mode ? Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: http://rosmodem.wordpress.com is announcing a new mode, weak signal. Web site is down currently ...anyone tried the new mode ? You know me Andy, always a sucker for something different to try. ;-) Just downloaded the file and instructions and wondering where to start

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode ! ROS QRV

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
I'M QRV now with this software... will look for you Dave. Looks fascinating. Andy K3UK On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Andy obrien wrote: http://rosmodem.wordpress.com is announcing a new mode, weak signal. Web site is down currently

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
sholtofish wrote: Following on from this thread and reading some of Peter's comments makes me wonder what method is best for 300 baud HF packet with a TNC? FSK or AFSK? Or won't it make any difference? Will FSK result in a wider bandwidth? The main advantage of FSK, so I am led to believe,

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
first question is how to set PTT for various rigs. the author just joined our group, so maybe he will help us. On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 6:35 PM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Andy obrien wrote: http://rosmodem.wordpress.com is announcing a new mode, weak signal. Web site is

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode ! ROS QRV

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: I'M QRV now with this software... will look for you Dave. I failed at the 1st Fence Andy. Downloaded something to be able to cope with RAR files and I'm getting a runtime error when I try to run the executable. So, I obviously need to sort out some problem with running the

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
Hey, it transmits... sounds nice... Andy K3UK

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode ! ROS PTT

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
I see the PTT switch, it uses only Comm 1 or Comm 2, I use virtual serial ports, so will have to think about this. Andy K3UK

[digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Andy K3Uk

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Rotten Robbie
HF FSK is full power carrier. 100% duty cycle while transmitting. The AFSK SSB mode is linear and the signal level is controlled buy the audio drive level which must be held below the saturation point of the transmitter stages. Bob Macklin K5MYJ Seattle, Wa. Real Radios Glow In The Dark -

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Why would it not be Andy? If it is Audio Phase Shift Keying then it's no different to PSK31, if it is more like WSJT then as long as JT65A (and all the other WSJT modes) are legal, then what makes this one any different? I

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Mark W
I ran into this. I sent the operator a nice email. He explained that the problem was on my end because his sig was overloading my receiver. He seemed to know more than me so I went with his answer. From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DANNY

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Russell Blair
Andy looking for a way to start the program. ? Russell  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Russell Blair
It would be nice if it was Zipped, insted of (rar). Russell  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell

[digitalradio] ROS New Mode

2010-02-18 Thread nietorosdj
HI, As you know i have created a new mode at http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/ I wish you tested it and I will answer if you have any questions. Jose Alberto

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
Russell, set your PTT and then just press the CQ button. Andy K3UK On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Russell Blair russell_blai...@yahoo.comwrote: Andy looking for a way to start the program. ? Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
The description says it uses spread-spectrun On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Dave Ackrill dave.g0...@tiscali.co.ukwrote: Andy obrien wrote: Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Why would it not be Andy? I

Re: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
Malarkey, unless you are next door to him. If ALL signals are doing so, then maybe it is your receiver, but I much doubt it. You can listen to 14.069 for instance, and hear the two or three kc above that freq, loaded with signals. Watch the waterfall and you will see who is overdriving, by

[digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread nietorosdj
Hi, tomorrow i will change PTT from COM1 to COM6, but i dont know if it'll run. --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Russell Blair russell_blai...@... wrote: Andy looking for a way to start the program. ? Russell  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Joe Veldhuis
As long as it is 500 Hz and 300 baud, it's fine. -Joe, N8FQ On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:04:29 -0500 Andy obrien k3uka...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone know if this mode is legal in the USA. ? Andy K3Uk

Re: [digitalradio] Re: A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Russell Blair
OK got it working now but all is dead on 20m. Russell NC5O  1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Thomas Jefferson IN GOD WE TRUST Russell

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread Dave Ackrill
Andy obrien wrote: The description says it uses spread-spectrun How wide is 'wide'? Not got to grips with this as yet, obviously. Dave (G0DJA)

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Don KF4CUP
well, dave, wrap me in a snickers wrapper (hi), just put up a rotateable dipole assembled from two 3 segment shrimp net poles without the hoop and netting, cut for 20 meters it shows up at 1.3 to 1.4 vswr across the entire 20 meter band. what's that new mode again? 73 don kf4cup On

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread Don KF4CUP
and blast it, i just knew i cut it 3/16 inch to short :) 74 On 2/18/2010 10:04 PM, Don KF4CUP wrote: well, dave, wrap me in a snickers wrapper (hi), just put up a rotateable dipole assembled from two 3 segment shrimp net poles without the hoop and netting, cut for 20 meters it

Re: [digitalradio] A new Mode !

2010-02-18 Thread DANNY DOUGLAS
Sick a shripm on the barbie! Where do I get one of those poles in N. Va? Danny Douglas N7DC ex WN5QMX ET2US WA5UKR ET3USA SV0WPP VS6DD N7DC/YV5 G5CTB All 2 years or more (except Novice). Short stints at: DA/PA/SU/HZ/7X/DU CR9/7Y/KH7/5A/GW/GM/F Pls QSL direct, buro, or LOTW preferred, I Do not

Re: [digitalradio] ROS, legal in USA?

2010-02-18 Thread J. Moen
While frequency-hopping was first introduced in a patent filed by Nikola Tesla in 19000, I've always been fascinated by the role of Austrian actress Hedy Lamarr in the development of spread-spectrum. According to Wikipedia, Lamarr had learned about the problem at defense meetings she had

[digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread ed_hekman
Wes, Welcome to the digital modes. 1967 was a good year - I was also first licensed in '67. This web site has some interesting information about digital modes. http://f1ult.free.fr/DIGIMODES/MULTIPSK/digimodesF6CTE_en An important parameter is the mean/peak power ratio for each of the modes.

[digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread ed_hekman
I forgot to mention... I feel a little guilty when running 50 watts on PSK31 now. In the past 6 months I have logged over 50 QSOs including Japan and Europe (both 5000 miles) with less than 1 watt. It takes a little more patience but it has been a real eye-opener to discover what can be

[digitalradio] ROS Modulator- Frequency-hopping spread spectrum (FHSS)

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
From http://go2.wordpress.com/?id=725X1342site=rosmodem.wordpress.comurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.box.net%2Fshared%2Fq4e20pgnef ROS uses a Spread Spectrum technique known as Frequency-hopping spread spectrum (FHSS). In a conventional 16FSK system, the data symbols modulates a fixed frequency carrier;

[digitalradio] ROS auto email feature

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
This button inserts your email address in the message between two special characters: “” and “”. This is very important because ROS scans all messages received and if an email is written in any of these, ROS then automatically send you a reply with all information received and the signal

[digitalradio] Listening for ROS 7065 (LSB) and 14080 (USB)

2010-02-18 Thread Andy obrien
I will be QRV ROS , baud 1 7065 LSB 0600-1300 UTC February 19. At 1300 I will switch to ROS 16 Baud 14080 USB. I will also monitor the digitalradio sked page http://www.obriensweb.com/sked click on digital Andy K3UK

RE: [digitalradio] Re: Introduction and question

2010-02-18 Thread Mark W
It rarely happens. But both times I noticed it the actually signal was very strong +20DB. Digital is relatively new to me. This is something that would never be noticed on phone or CW. From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of DANNY DOUGLAS Sent: