--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Rein A rein...@... wrote:
That could well be the case. Same perhaps for some of his other
actions in the past, present and most likely in future.
Then, of course it really does not matter whether is is working or not!
Indeed. It's about the
I would not have been confident that there was not a more subtle surprise in
the program for those on his list. Given the information revealed here that it
sends information to websites I can't control, even if as far as we know they
are just DX clusters, I still have no wish to run the
looks like things have moved on , I have tried a few of the call's that had
been reported blocked , and all seem to work normally
Its not the first software that had a barred list the first was originated
in the usa , linked to the pk232 , thats free for all to use now
G ..
Hello and Good morning to all,
Just looking for a little advise and guidance here. Next weekend is the CQ
WW VHF Contest, I'm looking forward to setting out and playing in the contest
and I'm thinking of attempting some digital contacts along with the usual SSB
to up the score a bit. I've
Hi all
I've done a little experiment this morning. I left my radio on 14112.0
and went shopping.
When I came back, the ROS software had uploaded this reports to the cluster:
LA5VNA 14103.0 ON3JMD copy ROS Mode -23 dB
1233 10 Jul Belgium
LA5VNA 14115.0 UX1CN
There are lots of people on PSK31 here on 6 meters and some on 2 meters
too ... it works for them .
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, GregCT n1...@comcast.net wrote:
From: GregCT n1...@comcast.net
Subject: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 10,
Amateur radio is not for contesting. Amateur radio is not a sport, it is for
communications...meaningful communications. Exchanging signal reports and
series numbers or such other drivel is not what amateur radio was intended for.
We need to start getting back to RADIO and COMMUNICATIONS,
I AGREE !
However not all contesters are a PAIN IN THE *## just the few that push others
out of the way and interfer with daly QSO and nets ..
--- On Sat, 7/10/10, Dan Hensley kc9...@att.net wrote:
From: Dan Hensley kc9...@att.net
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] VHF Contesting
To:
Hello Steinar,
Apart from you not knowing that this was going on in the background
AND you should have been told, I think
It might be part of modern amateur radio activity.
I think Jose should tell his users that this is happening and perhaps
allow for turning it off and on.
Steinar,
I believe you are reporting ( spotting ) stations at 14.112
because you are using ROS with your call inserted or not?
I do not think this fake or am I wrong?
You are not telling us that ROS is not running on your computer
and receiver or?
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
Yes, he is spotting on 14112but a lot of those spots were on 14115 and
14103 which he is not monitoring.
Dave
K3DCW
On Jul 10, 2010, at 10:40 AM, rein...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Steinar,
I believe you are reporting ( spotting ) stations at 14.112
because you are using ROS with your
The basic question is, I believe:
Is is possible to insert activity reports that are fake
via telnet or other means.
If this is the case, it would allow to direct activity to certain
frequencies or away from frequencies. Enhancing working or preventing
rare DX stations etc etc.
An issue FAR
OK Dave, the frequency reporting part is not working, probably minor
computer problem or ?
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: Dave Wright hfradio...@gmail.com
Sent: Jul 10, 2010 10:46 AM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: [ROSDIGITALMODEMGROUP] Pirate
The wonderful thing about our hobby is there are so many different paths to
take
and still be a ham. I once knew a ham in SC that only got his license so he
could fly large scale RC aircraft on 6 meters but he was still a ham and still
in the hobby, although he never picked up a mic or
Steinar,
What you should do perhaps, insert your grid square in the call window
indicating a receiver in grid square abcdef is reporting hearing AZ5ZA
etc etc
That might work
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no
Sent: Jul 10, 2010 9:19 AM
To:
Or try calls like:
SP0T, F1AKE,D0MMY...
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rein...@... wrote:
Steinar,
What you should do perhaps, insert your grid square in the call window
indicating a receiver in grid square abcdef is reporting hearing AZ5ZA
etc etc
That might work
73 Rein
Hi Rein
I am not sure what you mean.
My radio was NOT sending, only receive when I was out shopping.
The ROS program pretends that I ,in person, am typing this message on
the cluster.
This is pirate behavior.So simple is that.
la5vna Steinar
On 10.07.2010 16:40, rein...@ix.netcom.com
Marc,
Always like to learn more about think I do not understand.
Apart from causing QRM on a occupied frequency ( QRL? ),
you with your PD4 call are allowed to make a contact with SSB
or even AM at 14.003. are you not?
I am talking legally here. there might be new EU rules
gentleman's
Hi again
Let me make this simple Rein.
On the cluster I read this :
LA5VNA 14103.0 ON3JMD copy ROS Mode -23 dB
I have NOT been on 14103 AND I have NOT written copy ROS Mode -23 dB
The ROS program PRETEND to be me.
LA5VNA Steinar
On 10.07.2010 17:25, Steinar
Not only that but I think it should be a manual action to spot a contact to the
cluster. It is an abuse of the cluster to spot every contact or station heard.
Imagine if everyone did it! I thought the purpose of the cluster was to spot
DX. Most of those contacts listed were not DX.
If ROS
Skip's observations notwithstanding, PSK31 and PSK63 are likely the only
modes others will use in the VHF Contest. Using Domino or other better
suited modes may be technically the best thing to do, but you'll get more
points by using PSK.
Andy K3UK
Julian,
Very good suggestion IMHO
But, would he allow every user to report? ( just yoking )
73 Rein W6SZ
-Original Message-
From: g4ilo jul...@g4ilo.com
Sent: Jul 10, 2010 1:00 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Pirate f ROS to repoer
Not only that but
Which version?
Sigi
Rein, when I am are reading LA5VNA 14115.0 UX1CN tnx fer ROS QSO, I
am not getting upset, only sad . It doesn't matter if this is a
standard message, it is a fake one. Mr. Jose has abused my call sign.
He is trying to make it look like that I have been in a QSO with UX1CN.
This is totally
It is time for jose to think the autospotting over
In the stating of ros it was to make it more popular (tell others that ros
is there and alive)
But now as there are more and more users we do need no autospotting . we
need a spotfunction that work like the user needs them
Only spots of real
ROS v4.6.2 Beta.exe
la5vna Steinar
On 10.07.2010 19:52, Siegfried Jackstien wrote:
Which version?
Sigi
All PD calls (=novice) are allowed to TX in any mode on 40m/20m/10m on HF.
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, rein...@... wrote:
Marc,
Always like to learn more about think I do not understand.
Apart from causing QRM on a occupied frequency ( QRL? ),
you with your PD4 call are allowed
Dear Steinar,
Forgive my stupidity it seems in the cluster etc business.
Let me start with this
http://jt65.w6cqz.org/receptions.php
I loaded the software,
Configured the software with grid , call etc
Turned on the RB function ( internet reporting )
Report the calls from stations received
Yesterday I ran some tests and can confirm that ROS software (Betas
4.5.7, 4.5.8, 4.6.0 4.6.2) is auto-spotting to the cluster without any
control from the op.
ROS has hard-coded the following Clusters and connects to one of these
if possible.
dxc.us6iq.com
dxc.ham.hr
9a0dxc.hamradio.hr
Is this still the case , posted 26/2/2010 ?
The FCC did say they viewed it as spread spectrum, not because of any
technical inspection by them, but solely upon the documentation presented to
them, and they qualified THAT by saying they assumed the author knew what he
had written.
Q
I agree 100 per cent...73..Alan
--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Thomas F. Giella NZ4O tgil...@...
wrote:
Call me old fashioned but after the way the developer of the ROS mode
treated the global amateur radio community, i.e, malice, deceit and
disrespect earlier in the year I wouldn't
Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ?
Mel G0GQK
As far as I know a BW of 2250Hz is not illegal in the Netherlands, nor is
spread spectrum. But not sure about that. But I thought a station from OH or
LA(?) mentioned SS was illegal there when that subject was raised a few months
ago. That's why the not merely illegal in US
--- In
As a (retired) amateur software developer myself I cannot imagine why the
developer did it this way instead of letting people pick their own cluster
(preferably one located near them) and send their own spots manually. It would
have been easier. Connecting to random servers and sending randomly
I'm not sure if it still requires it, but many early users gladly gave over
their gmail account passwords (required at the time) to the program without
question, so why would they care (or even know) if it did anything else?
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:25 PM, g4ilo jul...@g4ilo.com wrote:
As
Ok Skip
Yes .. but .. looking at it from over here .. Technically the situation
looks a little quaint ..
What happens between 145 and 220 meg to enable the mode ..the concept
is the same . so it cannot be based on intercept ability ..that only leaves
bandwidth ?
Julian ,
That's a good point , But from what I can gather this is Mr Ros
http://www.thesauro.com/nietoros/ if so then such routines would perhaps be
a little dangerous to implement ?
I don't really know what the end game will be .. but I have the
perception that 'game'may be
The other day after making a comment about ROS
I got a note (direct) just saying -
makes one wonder what else the program is doing.
Do you have your banking information on that computer ?
On 07/10/2010 04:56 PM, raf3151019 wrote:
Well, would you believe it ! So what happens now ?
The first person who warns the ROS users gets banned
for life from the ROS email list? :)
--
All rights reversed.
from his website
http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2010/07/10/ros-and-cluster/
Jose says...
ROS uses a system that send reports to the DX Cluster automatically.
This is useful to know who are listen you and the system is done so as not
to saturate the cluster (only send some spot).
If you
Just goes to show that he reads the boards and keeps track of what is going
on.
Now, how easy would it be to program a button to disable the function with
one toggle in the software? Very easy! Then he could open it to everyone
to decide whether they want the reporting or not. Since he won't
With this action (or inaction) from Mr ROS and considering all of his
past actions/comments it becomes clear (to me) that he has an agenda and
Hams are being used as beta-testers to help fulfil his ultimate goal.
He has shown several times an unwillingness to embrace Ham Spirit and
Ham
Just added adif exe to my firewall
No data in no data out
Can use ros now as I have no inet access
Jose does monitor eu traffic via twente . so does the soft send (hidden)
data on the air??? I do not know . but I do not matter about cause I have
absolutely no passwords (except the gmail
The distributor being located in Europe, it may be the EU digital privacy
regulations come into play.
Cortland
KA5S
-Original Message-
From: raf3151019 gzero...@btinternet.com
Sent: Jul 10, 2010 4:56 PM
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [digitalradio] Re : testing confirms
Why is it we're still even discussing this? The mode is questionable, the
quirks are many, the value is dubious, the author a non-ham with a BIG
attitude, and he controls our computers. (Not mine, glad I never got around to
downloading) Why should we be his pawns and feed his ego? Best thing we
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