Hello Thomas,

> When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.) ..then tell me 
> its not major.
As this frequency (40-50 times) is not normal, I think there is another 
problem.

Hypothesis: I suppose that you want to do a QSO, have clicked on "ARQ FAE" 
and "CQ" and a Ham has done the connection with your station.

Note: if you are the "Master" (the one who initiates the QSO), it is better 
to check "Master" in the "Mode" box, this to come back to your initial AF 
frequency and to avoid a drift in frequency.

 I list below the possible problems:
* sound card sampling frequency not adjusted...solution: <Adjustments> menu, 
click on <Determination...>,
* AF level too low (<10 %) as displayed in a caption to the left of the Mode 
panel: you must target about 30 to 50 % (not critical) using the mixer. 
Possibly , you can sample in 16 bits (you will win about 2 or 3 bits in fact 
due to noise): <Adjustments> menu, click on <AF level...>. However, the most 
robust, CPU economic and simple is to work on 8 bits.
 * your computer must be fast (>1000 MHz) not to introduce big CPU delays,
 * to switch XCVR, prefer direct control or CAT system. With VOX, the 
introduced delay (VOX+XCVR) must be checked (above 130 ms there is a problem 
for ALE400),
 * of course, the AF level to the XCVR must be adjusted (not to overload the 
XCVR or not to be close to the noise), but it is not  different from any 
other mode.
 * Possibly, unclick the "AFC" (in case of big QRM (RTTY for example) on 
your frequency).

For procedures, refer to:
http://f6cte.free.fr/ALE_and_ALE400_easy_with_Multipsk.doc
http://f6cte.free.fr/The_ARQ_FAE_beacon_easy_with_Multipsk.doc

I hope this helps a bit.
Note: about this problem, it would be better to continue on the Multipsk 
Yahoo group.

73
Patrick


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Carswell Jr." <kt4w...@gmail.com>
To: <digitalradio@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 6:36 PM
Subject: Re: [digitalradio] ALE400


> Trust me pal... been using ALE400 from the start...the outa-sync issue
> is not just a
> one time thing... and not just on QRP.
> Im a big fan of ALE400 and MultiPSK(reg)...BUT,,,, It IS a major issue.
> When you have had it occur 40-50 times(with 20 over sig.)
> ..then tell me its not major.
> I have had 100+ QSO's in this mode....with 10-12 diff. ops.
> BTW..the new "PSK-Packet" has the same problem.
> KT4WO
>
>
> On 8/30/09, John Bradley <jbrad...@sasktel.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> "> I have brought this up to Patrick a few times....I asked for a
>>> "slottime" or some random timer...
>>> I think this would solve the problem. This is a MAJOR ISSUE with ALE400.
>>> Until this is fixed...ALE400 will never become "mainstream"
>>> I have been fighting this issuse sense ALE400 came out.
>>> So far...he has not worked on that..maybe you will have better luck
>> getting
>>> him to address this.??!!??! !??
>>> Maybe now that someone other than me and Dave "sees" this is a problem,
>>> Patrick
>>> will fix it???
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This is not a MAJOR issue.. Tony , K2M) and I were testing this and found
>> that while we could get ALE400 out of sync under very weak
>>
>> signals . we both had to go QRP, by not typing anything into the buffer 
>> for
>> a moment got the signal back without further collisions.
>>
>> Seemed to work well for us.
>>
>>
>>
>> Both using the latest (13th) test version of multipsk, not sure if that 
>> has
>> any effect,  found at 
>> <http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP>
>> http://f6cte.free.fr/MULTIPSK_TEST_13_08_2009.ZIP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> john
>>
>> VE5MU
>>
>>
>
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