Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Simon Brown (Laptop)
Interesting because I've been asked by quite a few people to add Hell to DM780 - which I have done, so expect some Hell activity this year. In general I agree that we possibly have far too many modes, for the beginner it's no easy to know what's what. At least PSK / RTTY is a good starting

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Laurent Laborde
I'm a begginer, licenced this year. I do not think that we have too many mode. And the massive usage of psk31 is not a beginer problem. It's the opposite. We have too many old ham that just want a contact and a QSL. And they use the most commonly used mode, psk31. I have absolutly no interest in

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread W6IDS
PROTECTED] To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:56 AM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ? I'm a begginer, licenced this year. I do not think that we have too many mode. And the massive usage of psk31 is not a beginer problem

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Phil Barnett
On Sunday 20 April 2008 05:03:27 am Laurent Laborde wrote: Hello, i have exactly the same problem. PSK31 is a good mode, but i'm tired of PSK31 only QSO. I try to use exoctic mode only. All flavors of Hellschreiber, Throb, Ale, Olivia, ALE, Stanag, Packet, ... It can take MANY hours to

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
- From: Jeff Moore To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ? Rick, My interests are similar to yours, ie, effective emergency comms, and just trying out all the different

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Patrick Lindecker
] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ? I'm a begginer, licenced this year. I do not think that we have too many mode. And the massive usage of psk31 is not a beginer problem. It's the opposite. We have too many old ham that just want a contact and a QSL. And they use

RE: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Dave AA6YQ
To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ? I'm a begginer, licenced this year. I do not think that we have too many mode. And the massive usage of psk31 is not a beginer problem. It's the opposite. We have too many old ham

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-21 Thread Tom Azlin, N4ZPT
Hi Andy, Sorry about your pinched nerve, but all the (exotic) modes are great. Perhaps there is a natural selection of well known modes as a common starting point. Perhaps over time modes that are extremely robust under different conditions I've used both MixW and MultiPSK but still takes

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Laurent Laborde
Hello, i have exactly the same problem. PSK31 is a good mode, but i'm tired of PSK31 only QSO. I try to use exoctic mode only. All flavors of Hellschreiber, Throb, Ale, Olivia, ALE, Stanag, Packet, ... It can take MANY hours to get a single reply in MFSK16 while there is a lot of psk31 around.

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Jose, after I wrote the first Chip 64 help file and published it, there was a few weeks of activity but it has been dead for the past couple of years. Olivia is perhaps my favourite but hard to find anyone, and when you do it is the guy you talked to the last time you heard a Olivia signal.

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Rick
I have been concerned for some time about the lack of interest in the new modes, even though some of us try and promote them. Very few hams have any interest in digital modes to begin with. About half the hams here in the U.S. can not operate below 10 meters since you need at least a General

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Rick
I had thought that CHIP64 was basically an experimental mode with little practical value until it was pointed out to me that at least one Digital Net uses it in Virginia. I have monitored their transmissions a few times, even though it is on a NVIS frequency and I am at a quite distant

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Jose A. Amador
Well, I see it is not Olivia's fault, but people's conservadurism not trying the newer modes. As it has been said before, most people on PSK31 uses ONLY PSK31, and very few of the most restless attempts other modes. I believe that there is another ongoing revolution on beaconing with WSPR.

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Jeff Moore
Rick, My interests are similar to yours, ie, effective emergency comms, and just trying out all the different modes. I have two main issues: 1. Being brand new to digital modes, I find it rather difficult to tell what mode I'm seeing on the waterfall. I recognize PSK, RTTY, MFSK16 (now),

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-20 Thread Rick
Hi Jeff, I can tell some of the modes on the waterfall, but then again many are not really discernable. By combining the sound of the mode with the appearance on the waterfall, you can get better at it. Bandwidth is one factor, the relative number of tones, certain spacing, etc., all help to

[digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-19 Thread Andrew O'Brien
Maybe it is because I am getting irritated because of the pinched nerve in my neck, I'm thinking maybe I have just had enough of the plethora of digital modes. Yes, it is K3UK saying that...the bloke that is always trying varying modes. I tried calling CQ numerous times in the TARA Skirming

Re: [digitalradio] Multiple Digital Modes: Time to get rid of most ?

2008-04-19 Thread Jose Amador
Time to put MFSK16,Hell, standard ALE, Olivia , Contestia, RTTYM, DominoEX , etc, in to the virtual junk-box. They can join their counsins from the non-virtual world...Betamax ,8 track tapes, and cassettes. All good applications, but no one uses 'em anymore. Andy K3UK Between