Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-02 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: Sorry Dave, I don't follow you as to what would be stupid. Perhaps I misunderstood you. I misunderstood, when you were talking about VHF/UHF I read that as if you were suggesting that 1 baud was being given only a 20M frequency. Dave (G0DJA)

[digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread nietorosdj
Hi, From 14101 to 14112 is the range legal in the IARU Regions for DIGIMODES until 2700Hz. You cannot use all the spectrum exclusive for you because spectrum is for all hamradio. OLIVIA and ROS have to share frequencies, as well as future modes that will emerge over the coming years.

RE: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users or cheese with ur whine

2010-03-01 Thread kq6i
Jose Hear, hear rgrds Craig kq6i Peace, long-life, es gud DX! C P.S. including 14101 -Original Message- From: nietorosdj [mailto:nietoro...@yahoo.es] Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 10:34 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users Hi, From

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread Steinar Aanesland
Hi Jose I support you completely 73 de LA5VNA Steinar On 01.03.2010 18:34, nietorosdj wrote: Hi, From 14101 to 14112 is the range legal in the IARU Regions for DIGIMODES until 2700Hz. You cannot use all the spectrum exclusive for you because spectrum is for all hamradio. OLIVIA and

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread KH6TY
Steinar, that is absolutely true, the spectrum belongs to everybody, but the other side of the coin is that we need to police ourselves, and that usually means moving around to better accomodate other users of the spectrum, or by their moving also. This is how we arrive at bandplan divisions

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: lun,1 marzo, 2010 23:02 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users   Steinar, that is absolutely true, the spectrum belongs to everybody, but the other side of the coin is that we need to police ourselves, and that usually

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread Dave Ackrill
jose alberto nieto ros wrote: I think this is a lot easier. If you see a channel is occupied by Olivia, go to another channel. And if you see that a channel is occuped by ROS and want to transmit with OLIVIA, do the same. What i cannot say is The 20-meters band is only mine. That has

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread KH6TY
...@comcast.net *Para:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Enviado:* lun,1 marzo, 2010 23:02 *Asunto:* Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users Steinar, that is absolutely true, the spectrum belongs to everybody, but the other side of the coin is that we need to police ourselves, and that usually means

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread Dave Ackrill
KH6TY wrote: I agree that is easier. The problem is that 14109 has been designated as 1 baud exclusive, so that is not suggested as available to go to. Even though is an advantage to being about to work at -35 dB S/N, the advantage is much greater at VHF and UHF, where atmospheric noise is

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users   I agree that is easier. The problem is that 14109 has been designated as 1 baud exclusive, so that is not suggested as available to go to. Even though is an advantage to being about to work at -35 dB S/N, the advantage is much greater at VHF and UHF

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread KH6TY
Sorry Dave, I don't follow you as to what would be stupid. The point is that any suggested frequency exclusive to 1 baud suggests to 16 baud users to stay off. However, there are many more 16 baud users than 1 baud if you monitor both frequencies, and QSO's move much faster, allowing for more

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread John Becker, WØJAB
At 05:40 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote: The problem is that 14109 has been designated as 1 baud exclusive, It has?

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread jose alberto nieto ros
. De: KH6TY kh...@comcast.net Para: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Enviado: mar,2 marzo, 2010 01:42 Asunto: Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users   Sorry Dave, I don't follow you as to what would be stupid. The point is that any suggested frequency exclusive

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread KH6TY
Technically, that is true. However, the problem I see over here is many times ROS decoding is stopped because of interference by other modes (Olivia and Pactor both), and not so many times as ROS interfering to other modes. Yes, that has been complained about also, and I have sometimes also

Re: [digitalradio] Spectrum is for ALL users

2010-03-01 Thread KH6TY
From the latest at rosmodem.wordpress.com: * **14.102 (exclusive 16 baud)** * 14.106 (exclusive 16 baud) * 14.109 (exclusive 1 baud) 73 - Skip KH6TY John Becker, WØJAB wrote: At 05:40 PM 3/1/2010, you wrote: The problem is that 14109 has been