Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Marcus Müller
Hi Stephan, I am sure GR can do that, but I can't ;-) I can't help but propose you change that ;) No, seriously, cross-compiling GNU Radio for an ARM sounds more complicated than doing non-coherent binary FSK demod, but then again, that might just be me :D. In fact, you're absolutely right:

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Marcus Müller
That's pretty awesome :) On 06/02/2015 09:44 AM, jean-michel.fri...@femto-st.fr wrote: If it can be of any help, I use POCSAG to illustrate one of the SDR labs I teach: the flowcharts are pp.4 and 5 of http://jmfriedt.free.fr/tp_sdr.pdf (don't mind the text in French, only look at the

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread jean-michel . friedt
If it can be of any help, I use POCSAG to illustrate one of the SDR labs I teach: the flowcharts are pp.4 and 5 of http://jmfriedt.free.fr/tp_sdr.pdf (don't mind the text in French, only look at the pictures) and the associated videos are at http://jmfriedt.free.fr/ (first two ones from the top).

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
I've been an IT geek for over 15 years, but the frequency chatter and filter settings are daunting to me. About 10 years ago almost got my HAM radio license to up my personal geek factor, but I couldn't get myself to learn the electronic circuitry needed. I bow before you :) To answer your

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
Let me add that I don't know anything about the signal, other than that it's broadcast on 155.520MHz. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:19 AM, Marcus Müller marcus.muel...@ettus.com wrote: Hi Stephan, I am sure GR can do that, but I can't ;-) I can't help but propose you change that ;) No,

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread West, Nathan
I've heard a complaint about something similar on ARM before that was VOLK related. Can you set your volk_config to use the neon for volk_32f_x2_dot_prod_32f and report back? If the previous request is confusing just copy this file [0] to ~/.volk/volk_config. [0]

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
The gqrx process uses the neon_hardfp_orc setup by default even without your configuration file. I tried using it, but it will cause the process to segfault when I click the start/DSP button. gr-osmosdr v0.1.4-31-gb3fdf5b8 (0.1.5git) gnuradio v3.7.7.1-131-g71ab508d built-in source types: file

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
I ran the volk profile generator, but with the resulting volk_config file (all other settings untouched) I don't get any audio out of gqrx On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Philip Balister phi...@balister.org wrote: On 06/02/2015 11:22 AM, West, Nathan wrote: I've heard a complaint about

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Marcus Müller
Hey Stephan, probably, you've even got a fully fledged GR installation around. If not, I'd say: get the uber-cool LiveSDR DVD image [1], boot from it. As soon as you have a full GR installation, you can run the GNU Radio companion, which feels a lot like connecting together real world filters

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Philip Balister
On 06/02/2015 11:22 AM, West, Nathan wrote: I've heard a complaint about something similar on ARM before that was VOLK related. Can you set your volk_config to use the neon for volk_32f_x2_dot_prod_32f and report back? If the previous request is confusing just copy this file [0] to

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
I will play with that live cd if I can find it. It will probably work fine on my laptop, but not so much on the ARM platform where I want to use the POCSAG decoder utility. My FD gets over 1200 calls a year, but I want to do big-data analytics (somewhat) on all calls going out to all the EMS and

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-02 Thread Marcus Müller
Hi Stephan, so how do you get the samples into GNU Radio? I guess you use the gr-osmosdr source? What does your flow graph look like? Best regards, Marcus On 06/02/2015 12:04 AM, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote: I am sure GR can do that, but I can't ;-) Also, I don't have a good waterfall at

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Marcus Müller
I'm a bit confused, I though POCSAG was a text pager system? On 06/01/2015 10:04 PM, Stephan van Beerschoten wrote: Hi Guys, I compiled gnuradio for my ODROID ARM platform, and I can listen to regular wideband radio just fine. I am using a Generic RTL2832U with Rafael Micro R820T tuner.

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
It is. I plan on running the output through a utility that can decode it. However, before that can happen I need to find out how I can get a clear reception of the broadcast. On Jun 1, 2015 4:15 PM, Marcus Müller marcus.muel...@ettus.com wrote: I'm a bit confused, I though POCSAG was a text

[Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
Hi Guys, I compiled gnuradio for my ODROID ARM platform, and I can listen to regular wideband radio just fine. I am using a Generic RTL2832U with Rafael Micro R820T tuner. The radio quality is fine, and even when using the rtl_fm tool directly (off topic for this list), it works. However, when

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Marcus Müller
Hi again, Ok, I'm not familiar with the standard POCSAG, but if you got a signal that you still need to decode with something else, how do you know you don't get clear reception? What is your measure for good reception? As far as I read the English wikipedia, POCSAC uses a 4.5kHz binary FSK, so

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
You're right in that I need more than GR. The audio of a pocsag broadcast is very distinct. It's also clearly visible on a waterfall. The problem is that I have too much static in there. Way too much noise. I can't get the gqrx module (where I tune and see the waterfall) set right so the reception

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread John Malsbury
Is this just the result of using a wideband FM demodulator (200 kHz?) on a narrowband signal? -John On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Marcus Müller marcus.muel...@ettus.com wrote: Hi! I personally think the soundbite from wikipedia is broken, since it's 11kHz sampling rate violates Nyquist ;)

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Stephan van Beerschoten
I am sure GR can do that, but I can't ;-) Also, I don't have a good waterfall at all of the pocsag broadcast, which is probably part of why I can't make it out with my ears either. Yes, I think I have too much noise. I hope it can be overcome with the right settings and filters. I'll try to

Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Regular FM radio fine, POCSAG horrible

2015-06-01 Thread Marcus Müller
Hi! I personally think the soundbite from wikipedia is broken, since it's 11kHz sampling rate violates Nyquist ;) Well, I must admit that my preferred way of analyzing this wouldn't be the audible reproduction; if you can see it clearly on the waterfall, and optically have enough dB between the