Perhaps one of the ideas for GSoC would be to update the code for the ORM (or maybe just a single backend?) to include Type hints. Last year (2022) it was mentioned here <https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SummerOfCode2022#TypedDjango>.
I think this might make it easier to allow newcomers to try work Trac Tickets. When I was working ticket 10070 <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/10070> I found myself (on more than one occasion) asking, what is this going to return? I was able to hack my way through it, but it would have been nice (potentially) have had had types in there! I know that there was a discussion on the Developers list here <https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/trTEbURFhEY> and here <https://groups.google.com/g/django-developers/c/C_Phs05kL1Q> and a proposed DEP <https://github.com/django/deps/pull/65> that was closed ... the idea seems to be more of a 'wait and see'. I believe Carlton also referenced the idea of type hints in a couple of episodes of Django Chat (e103 with Nikita Sobolev and e105 with Adam Johnson) Current ticket in trac is 29299 <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/29299> Cheers, Ryan On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 1:40:41 PM UTC-8 charettes wrote: > Adrian, > > > I'd personally like to see better support for safe / N-1 compatible > migrations within Django itself, currently if you do CD / blue-green tower > / etc. deployments you need to be very careful about the migration > operations that you introduce version-to-version, although I'm not sure > what that would look like. > > There's a little project that we use at $WORK to do just that[0]. I'm not > sure its inclusion in core is even proposable at this time as is still has > received very little feedback from external users but the gist of the tool > is that it introduces a notion of phases to migrations (pre and > post-deployment) and augments the `makemigrations` command so it splits > operations that require multiple phases in multiple migrations and adds a > `--pre-deploy` > flag to the `migrate` command to only run migrations meant to be run prior > to a deployment. > > I don't want to hijack the this thread to discuss it in details but feel > free to try it out and reach out personally if you'd like more details. > We've used it internally to deploy changes using ArgoCD to Kubernetes > clusters internally and I was planing on presenting the tool in the near > future at a Django event once we get more feedback about it. > > [0] https://github.com/charettes/django-syzygy > > Cheers, > Simon > Le mardi 29 novembre 2022 à 04:41:49 UTC-5, ator...@redhat.com a écrit : > >> I'd personally like to see better support for safe / N-1 compatible >> migrations within Django itself, currently if you do CD / blue-green tower >> / etc. deployments you need to be very careful about the migration >> operations that you introduce version-to-version, although I'm not sure >> what that would look like. >> >> +1 to OIDC, CORS and DB defaults >> >> If nothing else, this thread has at least made me aware of some >> interesting tickets :-) >> >> Adrian >> >> On Tuesday, November 29, 2022 at 5:35:40 AM UTC+1 Adam Johnson wrote: >> >>> I am not sure the db level defaults PR is suitable for a GSoC project at >>> this point - it’s pretty well developed. I think it could do with some >>> review and testing form those who are interested. >>> >>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 at 17:10, 'st...@jigsawtech.co.uk' via Django >>> developers (Contributions to Django itself) < >>> django-d...@googlegroups.com> wrote: >>> >>>> +1 from me on DB defaults (constraints too). I've worked on many >>>> systems where Django isn't the only place putting records into DBs and >>>> having DB level defaults and constraints fixes a lot of common issues with >>>> that. Currently I create an empty migrations to then add them in manually >>>> when required >>>> >>>> >>>> +1 from me on moving models between apps, though I know it can be a >>>> pain. Contacting and freelancing means you come across a lot of projects >>>> where models are seeming in the wrong app or where you want to consolidate >>>> apps and being able to move them cleaning would be a wonderful addition >>>> On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 16:59:48 UTC John Whitlock wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd like to see database-level defaults supported in models and >>>>> migrations: >>>>> >>>>> https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/470 >>>>> >>>>> There's currently a PR open, which replaces an earlier 2020 PR >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/django/django/pull/16092 >>>>> >>>>> It would be a large benefit to those of us practicing continuous >>>>> deployment. It is also tricky enough that it would benefit from a >>>>> full-time >>>>> effort to implement and refactor. >>>>> >>>>> - John >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 3:11 AM Carlton Gibson <carlton...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi all. >>>>>> >>>>>> Google Summer of Code (GSoC) for 2023 has just been announced. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://opensource.googleblog.com/2022/11/get-ready-for-google-summer-of-code-2023.html >>>>>> >>>>>> Django has participated many times, and it's been a real boon. Recent >>>>>> successes include: >>>>>> >>>>>> * The django-stubs mypy plugin. >>>>>> * The cross-db JSON field. >>>>>> * The Redis cache backend. >>>>>> * Per model-class (field instance) custom lookups >>>>>> * Setup of the django-asv benchmarking project. >>>>>> * ... >>>>>> >>>>>> Application deadline for Orgs is February 7. I'll begin working on it >>>>>> after the New Year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Main bit is an ideas list for projects. The GSoC guide has a Writing >>>>>> a Good Ideas List >>>>>> section. >>>>>> >>>>>> > Projects should take ~175 hours or ~350 hours for GSoC contributors >>>>>> to complete. >>>>>> >>>>>> i.e. "short" or "long" projects. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://google.github.io/gsocguides/mentor/defining-a-project-ideas-list >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm writing here *to solicit input on project ideas*. >>>>>> >>>>>> I put "Technical Board?" in the subject because we're short a list of >>>>>> project >>>>>> ideas for the technical direction of Django going forward, and maybe >>>>>> thinking >>>>>> in terms of GSoC could be a way of bootstrapping that. The "?" is >>>>>> because that's not >>>>>> meant to exclude other input. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's last year's list for reference: >>>>>> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/SummerOfCode2022 >>>>>> >>>>>> - Some of those were done: benchmarking (but that could be built on) >>>>>> and per-instance >>>>>> field lookups. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Rate-limiting is a no-go I think: we couldn't come to any decent >>>>>> agreement on scope, >>>>>> so it's better to live as a third-party package. >>>>>> >>>>>> - I've tried to include folks from the wider ecosystem in previous >>>>>> years. Two years ago >>>>>> we had both Wagtail and django-stubs projects. Wagtail then (last >>>>>> year) >>>>>> applied in their own right, to great success. I'd like to offer >>>>>> that help >>>>>> again to e.g. Jazzband or other established projects, assuming >>>>>> maintainers >>>>>> feel they have the capacity to mentor. (It's a minor increment to >>>>>> my effort >>>>>> for a good return I think.) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> No urgency but, can I ask you to put your grey cells into action? 🙂 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kind Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Carlton >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> >>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/194b43ff-98cf-4736-8360-3d79e9b62402n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/194b43ff-98cf-4736-8360-3d79e9b62402n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to django-develop...@googlegroups.com. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/91e944b1-98cd-4e5e-80e2-f0bad0874f93n%40googlegroups.com >>>> >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/91e944b1-98cd-4e5e-80e2-f0bad0874f93n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. 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