Re: [dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-14 Thread John Levine
Thanks for doing this work. It cleans up a messy corner of DMARC. It appears that OLIVIER HUREAU said: >I was personally thinking about the following options: > >1) Specify Version "2" ... > >2) Explore a JSON Format for Aggregated Reports: ... > >3) Create an Extended XML Schema for

[dmarc-ietf] Inconsistencies in DMARC Aggregate Report XML Schema

2023-11-14 Thread OLIVIER HUREAU
Hi, As mentioned here: [ https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ouSBtpMhD5KJp2osPfUXJktuoMQ/%C2%A0 | https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dmarc/ouSBtpMhD5KJp2osPfUXJktuoMQ/  ] I have found out that the current reporting ecosystem uses two types of XML Schema Definitions. During

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Server Controls

2023-11-14 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 5:33 AM Seth Blank wrote: > As Chair, Douglas, again, what operational issue per charter are you > trying to address, and where is your suggested text to address? > I agree, this far exceeds DMARC's charter. None of this to say the topic is not one worth exploring, but

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Server Controls

2023-11-14 Thread Seth Blank
As an individual, I concur with Richard As Chair, Douglas, again, what operational issue per charter are you trying to address, and where is your suggested text to address? Seth On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 07:41 Douglas Foster < dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote: > A server is anything

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Server Controls

2023-11-14 Thread Douglas Foster
A server is anything with an IP address and the potential to send mail using unauthenticated mail on port 25. Our most important server control is the foundation of SPF: a multi-tenant server will only allow tenants to originate messages using their own domain. Without that control, SPF

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Server Controls

2023-11-14 Thread Richard Clayton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 In message , Douglas Foster writes >Our document needs a section on server controls. what is a "server" ? did you mean an MTA ?? >Impersonation prevention begins with enrollment controls that prevent >service accounts from being created using

[dmarc-ietf] Server Controls

2023-11-14 Thread Douglas Foster
Our document needs a section on server controls. Impersonation requires a server that allows impersonation messages to be created.This means that impersonation usually comes from attacker-owned servers. Legitimate infrastructure services should, and usually do, implement controls which