[dmarc-ietf] Fwd: Break SPF response: DKIM Only

2024-03-04 Thread Chuhan Wang
Hi Douglas, Thank you for your insightful summary of our paper. I'd like to share some of my opinions. You mentioned clients lose control of their SPF integrity. It's one of the key problems exactly. Clients host their email services on email providers. They are required to include email

[dmarc-ietf] Fwd: The sad state of SPF: research just presented at NDSS

2024-03-04 Thread Chuhan Wang
Hi Everyone, I am Chuhan Wang from Tsinghua University, the author of paper BreakSPF: How Shared Infrastructures Magnify SPF Vulnerabilities Across the Internet. Thanks Barry for sharing our paper presented at NDSS regarding the vulnerabilities of SPF in this work group. I'm glad to see that

Re: [dmarc-ietf] The sad state of SPF: research just presented at NDSS

2024-03-04 Thread Hector Santos
> On Feb 28, 2024, at 6:33 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > > A paper was presented this morning at NDSS about the state of SPF, which is > worth a read by this group: > > https://www.ndss-symposium.org/ndss-paper/breakspf-how-shared-infrastructures-magnify-spf-vulnerabilities-across-the-internet/ >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARCbis WGLC Significant(ish) Issue - Section 7.6

2024-03-04 Thread Hector Santos
No rehashing, my technical opinion, clearly the semantics but both lead to: “You SHOULD|MUST consider the documented conflicts before using the restricted policy p=reject” Question. Is p=quarantine ok to use? Or do we presume p=reject implies p=quarantine?’' All the best, Hector Santos

[dmarc-ietf] A possible point for SPF advice

2024-03-04 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Hi, Section 5 has a paragraph that can fit Scott's solution to SPF spoofing. Here's a possible change: OLD A Domain Owner or PSO may choose not to participate in DMARC evaluation by Mail Receivers simply by not publishing an appropriate DNS TXT record for its domain(s). A Domain

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DISCARD: 4.3. Authentication Mechanisms

2024-03-04 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Sorry, I've been fooled by the page break. Alessandro Vesely writes: Hi, it is not true that DMARC relies solely on SPF authentication. OLD * SPF, [RFC7208], which can authenticate both the domain found in an SMTP [RFC5321] HELO/EHLO command (the HELO identity) and the

[dmarc-ietf] 4.3. Authentication Mechanisms

2024-03-04 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Hi, it is not true that DMARC relies solely on SPF authentication. OLD * SPF, [RFC7208], which can authenticate both the domain found in an SMTP [RFC5321] HELO/EHLO command (the HELO identity) and the domain found in an SMTP MAIL command (the MAIL FROM identity). As noted