Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC thwarted already?

2014-06-06 Thread Franck Martin via dmarc-discuss
On Jun 5, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Terry Zink via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.orgmailto:dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: Franck, See the end of the email, where I argued this caseā€¦ and It is hard to create a club and define the entry level which is open to all, provided they meet some

[dmarc-discuss] MLM and Header-From rewritting - the SMTP open-relay analogy

2014-06-06 Thread J. Gomez via dmarc-discuss
Hello all. I cannot stop thinking that the push-back against MLMs rewriting the Header-From is akin to the push-back of about 28 years ago from some people against the move to consider SMTP open-relays harmful. Closing SMTP open-relays impedes open and unrestricted email communication, they

Re: [dmarc-discuss] MLM and Header-From rewritting - the SMTP open-relay analogy

2014-06-06 Thread John Levine via dmarc-discuss
I cannot stop thinking that the push-back against MLMs rewriting the Header-From is akin to the push-back of about 28 years ago from some people against the move to consider SMTP open-relays harmful. This is about the fourth time around for this topic. Any chance we could just skip the

Re: [dmarc-discuss] MLM and Header-From rewritting - the SMTP open-relay analogy

2014-06-06 Thread Al Iverson via dmarc-discuss
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 3:59 PM, J. Gomez via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: Crazy analogy? Apt analogy? I find it apt, having lived through the open relay wars. The actors are the same here; just the names have changed. Some saying shrug, just deal with it, some saying it's the