Re: [dmarc-discuss] opendkim-atpszone reproducibility and examples

2017-01-31 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss skrev den 2017-01-30 22:30: Am 30.01.2017 um 21:40 schrieb SheridanJ West via dmarc-discuss: I encountered a opendmarc bug that required adsp records don't waste your time with ADSP, forget it. it's deprecated and in fact dead and spamassaasin does not care of

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC report from Google shows unexpected result

2016-12-24 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
spf test does not use from header, spf is not sender-id ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc.org breaks dkim & dmarc

2016-10-04 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 2016-10-04 19:41, Elizabeth Zwicky wrote: The DMARC on the mailing list passes when it reaches me -- it appears that something in the path between you and dmarc.org is the problem with breaking the DKIM signature. correct, did i get a problem on postfix maillist ? Since it's dmarc.org's

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc.org breaks dkim & dmarc

2016-10-04 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 2016-10-04 17:20, Franck Martin wrote: I'm not sure what is the issue here? Mailing lists break DKIM by design. bad designed on thiese maillist then its not dkim/dmarc fails post on postfix maillist have never breaked dkim for me We could go to the old style of mailing lists, which did

[dmarc-discuss] dmarc.org breaks dkim & dmarc

2016-10-04 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
Authentication-Results: linode.junc.eu; dmarc=pass header.from=dmarc.org Authentication-Results: linode.junc.eu; dkim=pass (1024-bit key; unprotected) header.d=dmarc.org header.i=@dmarc.org header.b=g7uNA2zS; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure)

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc-discuss Digest, Vol 56, Issue 5

2016-10-04 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 2016-10-04 16:06, Lynne Mack via dmarc-discuss wrote: HOW I DO GET OFF THIS LIST how to read the list ? http://lists.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss, helpfull in the box unsubscribe or edit options i just wonder how you subscribed

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc record added but no reports received

2015-01-16 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 16. jan. 2015 10.23.10 Constantino Antunes via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote Since yesterday I made the following changes: - changed the rua address: the previous one was receiving e-mail, but nevertheless - found an old SPF rule which was too permissive: did a complete rewrite

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Bounce

2014-10-21 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On October 20, 2014 9:00:55 PM Murray Kucherawy m...@fb.com wrote: I¹m pretty sure the entire population of this mailing list didn¹t need to know that; an email to me would¹ve been sufficient. Abuse or postmaster ?, well i see more domains with this problem, nearly enough to fix lokal not

[dmarc-discuss] Bounce

2014-10-18 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
The mail system repo...@dmarc.org: host dragon.trusteddomain.org[208.69.40.156] said: 550 5.1.1 repo...@dmarc.org... User unknown (in reply to RCPT TO command) ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Yahoo! DKIM Signing Practices Produce Fragile Signatures

2014-10-06 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On October 6, 2014 8:48:35 PM Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: Postfix removes it. Thanks Scott for topposting :) I get Received:, but why would Content-Length change in-flight? Is this BodyLengthDB in opendkim.conf ? Is yahoo using opendkim as is btw ?

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Yahoo! DKIM Signing Practices Produce Fragile Signatures

2014-10-06 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On October 6, 2014 10:19:15 PM Murray Kucherawy via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: I get Received:, but why would Content-Length change in-flight? Is this BodyLengthDB in opendkim.conf ? No, they¹re unrelated. Good ___ dmarc-discuss

Re: [dmarc-discuss] spam to the report sender address

2014-08-17 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On August 17, 2014 8:44:33 PM Andreas Schulze via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: I noticed the second time spam directed to the address I use to use only for sending dmarc reports. It's not the address public availabe as part of my dmarc record but my decicated sender address

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Unauthenticated emails being delivered to Google

2014-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 1. aug. 2014 10.46.08 CEST, Anders Wegge Keller via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of geowiki-ad...@wegge.dk designates \ 5.9.72.151 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=geowiki-ad...@wegge.dk; spf uses

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Unauthenticated emails being delivered to Google

2014-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
Authentication-Results: duggi.junc.org/3211C25C056; dmarc=pass header.from=linkedin.com wow, where is the footer now ? :) -- Sendt fra min Android telefon med K-9 Mail. Undskyld hvis jeg er lidt kortfattet.___ dmarc-discuss mailing list

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Unauthenticated emails being delivered to Google

2014-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
Authentication-Results: duggi.junc.org/5CA2025C056; dmarc=none header.from=dmarc.org not solved yet have nice weekend, the ismann delivered iscream here :) -- Sendt fra min Android telefon med K-9 Mail. Undskyld hvis jeg er lidt kortfattet.___

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Unauthenticated emails being delivered to Google

2014-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 1. aug. 2014 19.34.41 CEST, Franck Martin via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: Because your client decided to show you the email I sent you directly rather than the one via this mailing list… the above was from maillist Authentication-Results: duggi.junc.org/37CBA25C056;

Re: [dmarc-discuss] opendmarc 1.3.0 released

2014-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 1. aug. 2014 21.29.31 CEST, Franck Martin via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: Aim to the opendmarc mailing list if you have questions, but I though I would alert people of this updated from 1.2.0 to 1.3.0 here, seems to work, gentoo overlay fidonet, use it at own risk --

[dmarc-discuss] vacation test :)

2014-07-27 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
if all is well, i just waiting on the rain to fall -- Sendt fra min Android telefon med K-9 Mail. Undskyld hvis jeg er lidt kortfattet.___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE:

Re: [dmarc-discuss] a detour into S/MIME, was MLM and Header-From rewriting

2014-07-04 Thread Benny Pedersen via dmarc-discuss
On 19. jun. 2014 17.04.49 CEST, John Levine via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org wrote: So more specifically, the workaround for DMARC breaks S/MIME. Sigh. yes, amavisd-new and postfix maillist let my dmarc get pass on my own domain, silly to see that dmarc maillists try to make non

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC woes - forwarding signed / encrypted e-mail

2014-05-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
Lets hope this maillist will not break dkim, please post back with my errors if you dont see dmarc pass in private mail Should we keep the problem? Sendt fra Samsung mobil___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] any real-world experience with Original-Authentication-Results

2014-04-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
Figures - just confirms that the folks who designed DMARC really don't give a flying f*k about breaking the Internet. Amavisd-new, spamassassin, postfix maillists have no problem with dmarc at all, why does others need another faked headers to test ? i dont get it :( and it seems yahoo

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hey, Yahoo, you just broke my church mailing list

2014-04-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
I run an email forwarder which presents the same kinds of problems with DMARC as mailing lists; the sender's from address will never SPF-align. SPF is not Sender-ID :( ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hey, Yahoo, you just broke my church mailing list

2014-04-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Dave Crocker skrev den 2014-04-09 00:50: Given that we've known about the mailing list issue for DMARC, SPF and DKIM for a very long time, I think it unlikely that anyone is suddenly going to come up with a perfect and painless solution. SPF is transperant to maillists DMARC, Sender-ID, DKIM

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hey, Yahoo, you just broke my church mailing list

2014-04-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Andrew Beverley skrev den 2014-04-08 17:16: I am inclined to agree, but what is the best solution for this scenario? solved in exchange to not reply to Precedense: foo header mails dovecot-lmtp, dovecot-lda, sieve does not do reply based on that, so if sieve based vacation is in use it works

Re: [dmarc-discuss] OT: does gmail punish missing spf?

2014-04-04 Thread Benny Pedersen
Franck Martin skrev den 2014-04-03 00:12: I suppose your sending IPv6 address has a reverse DNS entry? more likely spf ip6 ? reverse is independic of spf but again why does it not show spf none ? ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list

Re: [dmarc-discuss] OT: does gmail punish missing spf?

2014-04-04 Thread Benny Pedersen
Andreas Schulze skrev den 2014-04-03 20:51: Andreas Schulze: yes, normaly I look at these things :-) I remember I saw a received line in gmail that contain a rDNS too. Just written I double checked the rDNS. Bingo! ... normaly impies there are unnormal corners too. Thanks for the pointer!

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Disposition none on policy reject when DKIM and SPF fail

2014-03-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
Spf is transperant on maillists Sender-id is not Dkim is transperant on maillist if no signed headers is changed or body is not changed Dmarc works if all of the above passes even if dmarc policy say reject Stop being ignorants ___ dmarc-discuss

Re: [dmarc-discuss] is it safe to reject?

2014-01-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2014-01-24 07:56, Benjamin BILLON wrote: I'm unsure about losing messages or auto-unsubscribing some people from lists because first begin to ignore maillist that is not dkim valid, then enable if all is listed as belov in ignorehosts file Funny, all of your messages through this mailing

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hotmail and 3rd party report receivers

2014-01-15 Thread Benny Pedersen
Franck Martin skrev den 2014-01-15 06:07: There is a space between mailto: and the email address, this may be the cause of your problems https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-inspector/evite-sendmail.nl well spotted space opendmarc-check evite-sendmail.nl

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Hotmail and 3rd party report receivers

2014-01-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Levine skrev den 2014-01-14 03:07: I get lots of aggregate reports from Hotmail, nearly all to a reporting address not in the domain being reported. The most recent arrived about an hour and a half ago. Authentication-Results: duggi.junc.org/C251925C04F; dmarc=none

[dmarc-discuss] RFE: opendmarc-report only on not dmarc pass

2014-01-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
this could reduce reporting for pass to limit abuse problems, here i get tired of domains that want reports, but defer forever in there mailserver could this be changed without breaking dmarc ? currently i also see more then one ruf and rua, well its ok, but i think its abuse :(

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc for never sending domains

2013-12-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Levine skrev den 2013-12-13 04:00: If example.net is a parked domain you can then protect it this way: _dmarc.example.net CNAME _dmarc.parked.example.com CNAME preserve DNSSEC ? Yes, of course it does. CNAME is a fundamental part of the DNS and always has been. i have seen CNAME used

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc for never sending domains

2013-12-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
Franck Martin skrev den 2013-12-10 22:40: If example.net is a parked domain you can then protect it this way: _dmarc.example.net CNAME _dmarc.parked.example.com CNAME preserve DNSSEC ? it does not work in ADSP be carefull ___ dmarc-discuss

Re: [dmarc-discuss] opendmarc sender address

2013-10-31 Thread Benny Pedersen
Murray Kucherawy skrev den 2013-10-31 17:01: Please ask OpenDMARC support questions on the OpenDMARC mailing lists, such as opendmarc-us...@trusteddomain.org. This list is for general deployment and other discussions not specific to a particular implementation. this maillist here is missing

Re: [dmarc-discuss] R: About SPAM Policy

2013-09-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Netsons Paolo Giustiniani skrev den 2013-09-10 17:31: Any email sent from the server is marked as spam by Gmail and inserted into the appropriate folder. mark the msg as not spam in gmail should solve it for the recipient, sender cant solve gmails problems :=)

Re: [dmarc-discuss] R: About SPAM Policy

2013-09-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Netsons Paolo Giustiniani skrev den 2013-09-10 17:46: Have you a record DMARC (Gmail) for me? https://dmarcian.com/dmarc-inspector/kirweb.it https://dmarcian.com/kitterman_record_gen/ ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] to: googlers: clarify X-Original-Authentication-Results

2013-09-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Olga Gavrylyako skrev den 2013-09-09 22:27: Unfortunately in Gmail we are using different software from opendkim. In some cases we have more strict requirements. Unless you provide me an example, I cannot say why it did not pass our validation. so much for using opensources, try atleast give

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Deployment problems with Postfix + pypolicyd-spf + OpenDKIM

2013-08-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Levine skrev den 2013-08-29 23:31: opendmarc use its own spf checks, it does not trust pypolicyd-spf results, better results depends on make opendmarc api to create a spf check as replacement for pypolicyd-spf, one milter lib, one policy This is absolutely incorrect. opendmarc uses

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Deployment problems with Postfix + pypolicyd-spf + OpenDKIM

2013-08-17 Thread Benny Pedersen
Scott Kitterman skrev den 2013-08-17 04:51: opendmarc use its own spf checks, it does not trust pypolicyd-spf results, better results depends on make opendmarc api to create a spf check as replacement for pypolicyd-spf, one milter lib, one policy This is absolutely incorrect. show config

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC RUA FIELD REMOVAL

2013-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Umesh Ratnayake skrev den 2013-08-08 10:22: My problem is wait a month or so, you see reports from not expired datahosts, but when dns is updated the new domain will get in use over time, that means you will in a periode see reports to both old and new domain, there should not be any

[dmarc-discuss] dmarc and spamassassin

2013-07-09 Thread Benny Pedersen
is there as test plugin to use ? ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss NOTE: Participating in this list means you agree to the DMARC Note Well terms

Re: [dmarc-discuss] reports loop problem

2013-06-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
Andreas Schulze skrev den 2013-06-29 21:19: $ dig _dmarc.dmarc.andreasschulze.de txt +short v=DMARC1\; p=reject another domain is another problem, it should really not be another domain, but same domain where its indicated not to report dmarc back to, all else is just unstable workarounds

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC implementation

2013-06-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matt Simerson skrev den 2013-06-25 08:23: - RUAs: - a...@dmarc-qa.com - b...@dmarc-qa.com if more then one is defined it sents to all, i see it used on multiple domains that send copy to return-path and still get a copy self -- senders that put my email into body content will deliver it to

Re: [dmarc-discuss] reports loop problem

2013-06-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
Roman Prokhorov skrev den 2013-06-25 00:28: However it would be nice to have a special header like X-DMARC-Report: aggregate or something to be defined in the standard. could be usefull to have an std default sender email that is not reported from, say noreply@ as it is for regulary email

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Implementer Notes

2013-06-14 Thread Benny Pedersen
Andreas Schulze skrev den 2013-06-13 10:28: May someone confirm that my reports from tomorrow 14/June/2013 are different/fixed? i have make a ticket for this in sf.net, hope it resolved in 1.1.4 :=) http://sourceforge.net/p/opendmarc/tickets/54/ -- senders that put my email into body

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Microsoft - Hotmail

2013-06-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
Tom Hendrikx skrev den 2013-06-12 11:45: It seems to me that dmarcian tells us that 207.68.169.173/30 is wrong, while 207.68.169.172/30 is correct cidr notation. It doesn't complain about correct cidr notations like 157.55.0.192/26. so in other words: 127.0.2.0/24 127.0.0.0/8 gives the

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Microsoft - Hotmail

2013-06-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
Tim Draegen skrev den 2013-06-12 15:26: If I'm reading this too narrowly, by all means, please let me know! I'm happy to suppress this the information is unnecessary (as perhaps the receiving world's SPF stacks simply don't care). i think it just need to be dokumented more what it means,

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Microsoft - Hotmail

2013-06-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
Scott Kitterman skrev den 2013-06-12 15:41: There are implementations that care, so you are right to raise the warning. what will spf testers do if v=spf1 a:_spf.example.org -all and _spf.example.org is have multiple ips ? that would make spf simple, and still could hold all 8 ips,

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Microsoft - Hotmail

2013-06-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Franck Martin skrev den 2013-06-11 04:17: https://dmarcian.com/spf-survey/microsoft.com indeed... wonder if its not possible with v=spf1 ptr mx a +all for a good start ? what does Network objects should not contain host bits mean while we are at it ? -- senders that put my email into body

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Implementer Notes

2013-06-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matt Simerson skrev den 2013-06-11 23:00: Reports from junc.org have mis-labeled the 'identifiers' section as 'identities' fixed, let me know if its not -- senders that put my email into body content will deliver it to my own trashcan, so if you like to get reply, dont do it

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Microsoft - Hotmail

2013-06-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
Other Mailbox skrev den 2013-06-10 17:49: Anyone else getting empty reports DMARC reports from Microsoft? Last 3 or 4 days all domains. and microsoft have invalid spf ?, i dont get anything here since spf is rejecting invalid spf records -- senders that put my email into body content will

Re: [dmarc-discuss] suggestions ?

2013-04-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2013-03-30 23:45, Andreas Schulze wrote: Nice to notice: I get failure reports from china (126.com) only.. . same here, hopefully 126,com if using spf/dkim/dmarc in that case you just see noice from senders that still belive it works -- senders that put my email into body content will

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC breaks mailing lists

2013-04-06 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2013-03-30 09:58, J. Gomez wrote: How crazy is that suggestion? it might be needed :( -- senders that put my email into body content will deliver it to my own trashcan, so if you like to get reply, dont do it ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Gmail Authentication-Results header

2013-04-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Murray Kucherawy skrev den 2013-04-05 09:09: I get less than a 1% failure rate for google.com signatures with my opendkim installation. 1% is still to much to be stable ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Gmail Authentication-Results header

2013-04-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Murray Kucherawy skrev den 2013-04-05 11:00: My point is that I don't think this is a problem with Google's key or with opendkim. i will try to catch it with 2.8.2 now, if i see it again, i lost if its just bind dns that shows it, its not gmail.com but google.com, diff public keys

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Gmail Authentication-Results header

2013-04-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
Al Iverson skrev den 2013-04-05 16:38: Might be wiser to not put p=reject for this domain. google have invalid setup for what is spam so if you subscribe to maillist and dont want it as ham, then you unsubscribe ? i am open minded idiot :) ___

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMRC with Zimbra

2013-04-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
Blason rock skrev den 2013-03-31 20:14: 3. I heard aboout opendmarc but curious to know since I already have postfix milter running on port 8891 can I run one more milter on port 8893 i.e. dmarc one? yes, i have clamav-milter, opendkim, opendmarc no problem here seperate milters with , with

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Odd DMARC rejection for mail apparently sent by PayPal

2013-03-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Levine skrev den 2013-03-01 01:37: John, you keep mentioning this, but I don't see anyone arguing. Then please stop. or unsubscribe ? ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org http://www.dmarc.org/mailman/listinfo/dmarc-discuss

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Is it possible block from DMARC an IP to send emails?

2013-01-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
Matias Kruk skrev den 2013-01-10 17:14: Yes, that's the problem. We have to remove it from the SPF record.  good or bad ? for dmarc its not a dmarc problem what results gives by spf and dkim one cant force all worlds servers to use spf test and dkim in there servers, sadly yes

Re: [dmarc-discuss] False positives with p=reject

2012-10-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Levine skrev den 28-10-2012 04:31: Consider how hard it is to make up some fake letterhead in your favorite word processor, print out a fake letter, put it in an envelope with a fake return address, put a real stamp on it, and put it in a mailbox. and ask the postman to get paid on

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Help Some Stranger is Using My Email

2012-09-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Levine skrev den 29-09-2012 06:13: On a bad day, I've gotten 300,000 bounced back messages due to spammers forging my addresses. How many are you seeing? could you be less sakastisk here ? ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list

Re: [dmarc-discuss] dmarc autoresponder

2012-09-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-09-02 22:01, Andreas Schulze skrev: is the any fixed echo address where the answer will always pass dmarc-checks? I just setup e...@signing-milter.org ... it works ___ dmarc-discuss mailing list dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] Documented consensus on [non-]use of p=quarantine|reject for domains used for individual correspondence?

2012-08-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-08-11 18:34, Peter Bowen skrev: However, this is list also seems to be setup slightly incorrectly. It is adding its own DKIM signature, but also leaving the any existing one in place. So there are two DKIM-Signature headers on most mails; one which passes and one which does not.