Re: [dmarc-discuss] About that From: field

2014-05-11 Thread Al Iverson via dmarc-discuss
On Sat, May 10, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: My question was rather carefully formed. The intent, one assumes, of this list, is to examine and discuss operational issues that relate to DMARC. It seems as though the existence of a bug is being inferred; the archives

Re: [dmarc-discuss] About that From: field

2014-05-11 Thread Dave Crocker via dmarc-discuss
On 5/11/2014 2:22 PM, Al Iverson via dmarc-discuss wrote: The intent, one assumes, of this list, is to examine and discuss operational issues that relate to DMARC. It seems as though the existence of a bug is being inferred; the archives don't reflect what recipients receive, I read. But in

Re: [dmarc-discuss] About that From: field

2014-05-11 Thread Al Iverson via dmarc-discuss
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Dave Crocker d...@dcrocker.net wrote: Although it does prompt the question of why you are working so hard to avoid responding to the substance of the question I asked. And no, I'm not expecting a useful response. Dave, I apologize for frustrating you. Neither

[dmarc-discuss] DMARC Successful Mail Delivery Reports

2014-05-11 Thread Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss
Over the last few days I've gotten a number of bounces like this, all from AOL: Return-Path: Received: from imb-d04.mx.aol.com (imb-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.128.65]) by qs3710.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51A76125427 for i...@kitterman.com; Sun, 11 May 2014 13:05:39 -0400

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Successful Mail Delivery Reports

2014-05-11 Thread Franck Martin via dmarc-discuss
Besides the backscatter AOL is creating and should stop, seems you should move your domain to p=reject to avoid that these spoofed emails get delivered to aol users and others... Printed on recycled paper! On May 11, 2014, at 19:34, Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss dmarc-discuss@dmarc.org

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Successful Mail Delivery Reports

2014-05-11 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
You have p=none and ruf= turned on, AOL's doing exactly what you've requested. - Roland On 05/12/2014 10:25 AM, Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss wrote: Over the last few days I've gotten a number of bounces like this, all from AOL: Return-Path: Received: from imb-d04.mx.aol.com

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Successful Mail Delivery Reports

2014-05-11 Thread Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss
No. I care too much about actual mailing list traffic for that to be feasible. If this is happening due to DMARC, a better solution for my use case would be to remove my DMARC record. Scott K On Monday, May 12, 2014 03:01:00 Franck Martin wrote: Besides the backscatter AOL is creating and

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Successful Mail Delivery Reports

2014-05-11 Thread Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss
Look at the ruf= address and where it was sent. No. Not what I requested. Scott K On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:07:59 you wrote: You have p=none and ruf= turned on, AOL's doing exactly what you've requested. - Roland On 05/12/2014 10:25 AM, Scott Kitterman via dmarc-discuss wrote: Over

Re: [dmarc-discuss] DMARC Successful Mail Delivery Reports

2014-05-11 Thread Franck Martin via dmarc-discuss
Not exactly, the failure reports are not supposed to go back to the (fake) sender but to the email specific by the ruf. This seems a delivery notification, so besides a bug at AOL, I would think that the fake email contains a delivery receipt header... Which AOL would honor... I did not see