Re: [dmarc-discuss] ARC adoption

2016-06-29 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss: ARC directly addresses (2). Unlike the measures for interoperating with earlier schemes, adding an ARC-* header set does not in any way impede or alter the traditional operation of mailing lists. Consequently: if list operators perceive benefit in

Re: [dmarc-discuss] ARC adoption

2016-06-29 Thread Steven M Jones via dmarc-discuss
+ dm...@ietf.org because Roland's responses should be considered/captured there too. Additional comment bottom-posted. On 6/29/16 12:09 AM, Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss wrote: Andreas Schulze wrote: 2) a general point I'm still unsure about:

Re: [dmarc-discuss] ARC adoption

2016-06-29 Thread Roland Turner via dmarc-discuss
Andreas Schulze wrote: > 2) > a general point I'm still unsure about: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dmarc-arc-usage say in 2.) > >> "If the mailing list implemented ARC, ..." > > ARC *require* the list operator (Intermediary) to install new or update > existing - right? No.

Re: [dmarc-discuss] ARC adoption

2016-06-28 Thread Elizabeth Zwicky via dmarc-discuss
Previous ways of adapting to DMARC involved changing mailing list semantics; ARC doesn't. That's a theoretical reason to believe it may get adoption where other things didn't. The practical one is that there are mailing list systems working on code, and mailing list operators I've spoken too

Re: [dmarc-discuss] ARC adoption

2016-06-28 Thread Steven M Jones via dmarc-discuss
+ dm...@ietf.org list to capture for ARC discussion/archive On 06/28/2016 09:12, A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss wrote: > > Kurt just mention adoption in his last message. > Adoption is a good point, I've two questions: > > 1) > are there implementation available as open source? There is an

[dmarc-discuss] ARC adoption

2016-06-28 Thread A. Schulze via dmarc-discuss
Hello, Kurt just mention adoption in his last message. Adoption is a good point, I've two questions: 1) are there implementation available as open source? I'm aware Google has some code. I guess there are other implementers otherwise the inter-op events wouldn't make sense. The protocol is