Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-10-21 Thread justina colmena ~biz
Trojitá, a fast Qt IMAP e-mail client http://www.trojita.flaska.net/ I also use http://opendkim.org/ http://www.trusteddomain.org/opendmarc/ as milters on Postfix Active development, I'm sure they could all use some help, or forks for alternatives, I don't know, I'm not involved in

Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-10-21 Thread hi
On 2022-10-11 14:05, Benny Pedersen wrote: hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-10-11 13:42: On 2022-09-13 13:10, Benny Pedersen wrote: hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-09-13 14:03: from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:

Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-10-12 Thread Dave McGuire
On 10/11/22 07:42, hi@zakaria.website wrote: Another update yet with a solution. I found the causing issue with DKIM and DMARC failure when a signed email pass through mailing list such as dovecot as I expected, it has nothing to do with the mailing list but it's to do with DKIM signing

Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-10-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-10-11 13:42: On 2022-09-13 13:10, Benny Pedersen wrote: hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-09-13 14:03: from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type:

dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-10-11 Thread hi
On 2022-09-13 13:10, Benny Pedersen wrote: hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-09-13 14:03: least to must pass Signature Verification. Have anyone managed to configure EXIM to verify more than one DKIM Signature header? postfix smtpd_milter_maps with a list of ips that is known maillists ips

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-09-13 Thread Benny Pedersen
hi@zakaria.website skrev den 2022-09-13 14:03: least to must pass Signature Verification. Have anyone managed to configure EXIM to verify more than one DKIM Signature header? postfix smtpd_milter_maps with a list of ips that is known maillists ips is best for software that are brokken, use

Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-16 Thread @lbutlr
On 2022 Feb 16, at 10:22, Chris Bennett wrote: > On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 12:58:03PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: >> Thats a TLD ban. Meaning *.ru is banned. >> >> same applies for my domain for example, I ban *.xyz, *.date and a few others. > I don't understand at all why banning tld is

Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-16 Thread Chris Bennett
On Sat, Feb 12, 2022 at 12:58:03PM +0100, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: > Thats a TLD ban. Meaning *.ru is banned. > > same applies for my domain for example, I ban *.xyz, *.date and a few others. > I don't understand at all why banning tld is reasonable. I'm not rich. I buy .rocks and .xyz .rocks

RE: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Marc
> > Google's corporate web page, Alphabet, Inc., is on the ".xyz" top level > domain. > > * https://abc.xyz/ > Google is probably to most fined company of all mentioned on this list, breaking countless laws over decades. That is the company you have as reference?

Re: Sv: Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread lists
ped a woman from using "design." From: sebast...@sebbe.euSent: February 12, 2022 5:25 AMTo: dovecot@dovecot.orgSubject: Sv: Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC Yep. Its a lot of TLDs that is banned at me,

RE: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread justina colmena ~biz
Google's corporate web page, Alphabet, Inc., is on the ".xyz" top level domain. * https://abc.xyz/ I suppose Sergey Brin is Russian as well, so what have you there? Perhaps you have inadvertently confused ".xyz" with the ".xxx" TLD. The popular grade school acronym for "eXamine Your Zipper" is

Re: Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-12 12:58, Sebastian Nielsen wrote: Thats a TLD ban. Meaning *.ru is banned. ru tld is not this time same applies for my domain for example, I ban *.xyz, *.date and a few others. why ban tld ? : host spam1.roosit.eu[212.26.193.45] said: 553 5.3.0 lets see

RE: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Marc
> > (sorry for posting to list this, but I don't have any ways to contact > Marc off-list now) > > >> > >>Problem is, I need to unpack each of them to be sure, that these are > >> false positives and I'm afraid, that it could lower reputation of my > mail > >> server IP address with

Sv: Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
@dovecot.org Ämne: Re: Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC The ".top" TLD is popular among Russian spammers, ".ru" is a little too obvious and honest for what it is, unless that's part of Biden's sanctions, the others you mention look like vice

Re: Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread justina colmena ~biz
*.xyz, *.date and a few others. > >-Ursprungligt meddelande- >Från: dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org För Lev >Serebryakov >Skickat: den 12 februari 2022 12:08 >Till: dovecot@dovecot.org >Ämne: Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC > >On 11.

Sv: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC On 11.02.2022 16:31, Marc wrote: (sorry for posting to list this, but I don't have any ways to contact Marc off-list now) >> >>Problem is, I need to unpack each of them to be sure, that these >> are false positi

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Lev Serebryakov
On 11.02.2022 16:31, Marc wrote: (sorry for posting to list this, but I don't have any ways to contact Marc off-list now) Problem is, I need to unpack each of them to be sure, that these are false positives and I'm afraid, that it could lower reputation of my mail server IP address with

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-12 Thread Lev Serebryakov
On 11.02.2022 16:31, Marc wrote: Problem is, I need to unpack each of them to be sure, that these are false positives and I'm afraid, that it could lower reputation of my mail server IP address with major providers (like Google Mail). How can you get a lower reputation? Afaik dmarc is

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-11 16:27, Marc wrote: wait for spamassassin 4, gmail does not let users change there missing problems with no dnssec domains, how can google be serius there ? google is only to be taken serious with acquiring new clients, if they would take email serious they would eg spend money on

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-11 14:31, Marc wrote: How can you get a lower reputation? Afaik dmarc is just signing your outgoing messages. there is no repution in dmarc, it either pass or fail, if all fails, it proves nothing, if all pass it proves just a litte that is not forged content maillist should

RE: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-11 Thread Marc
> wait for spamassassin 4, gmail does not let users change there missing > problems with no dnssec domains, how can google be serius there ? google is only to be taken serious with acquiring new clients, if they would take email serious they would eg spend money on filtering their out going spam

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-11 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-11 12:29, Lev Serebryakov wrote: On 09.02.2022 16:33, Aki Tuomi wrote: I'm participating in ~20 mailing lists and only this one gives a storm of DMARC reports on each my posting. +1 Problem is, I need to unpack each of them to be sure, that these are false positives and I'm

RE: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-11 Thread Marc
> > Problem is, I need to unpack each of them to be sure, that these are > false positives and I'm afraid, that it could lower reputation of my mail > server IP address with major providers (like Google Mail). > How can you get a lower reputation? Afaik dmarc is just signing your outgoing

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-11 Thread Lev Serebryakov
signature fails. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org För Lev Serebryakov Skickat: den 4 februari 2022 21:58 Till: dovecot@dovecot.org Ämne: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC My domain (serebrtyajov.spb.ru) has all these "new&qu

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-10 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2022-02-10, dove...@ptld.com wrote: > It is possible for a mailing list to pass DMARC verification, but > there doesn't seem to be a lot of motivation to put in the extra effort > to make it work. It is possible, but it breaks how many people expect mailing lists to work.

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread dovecot
> when dkim pass there is no breakage, but dkim fail can lead to in some setups > to make reject, even for maillists > that is a design fail on dkim I disagree. DKIM is doing its job. It is a design fail on the part of most mailing list and/or lack of user's DKIM signatures. Look at it

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-09 17:25, Julien Salort wrote: Le 09/02/2022 à 16:55, Benny Pedersen a écrit : hope maillist users turn there dkim signers into sign only, not verify aswell, verify must only happen in dmarc I am a little bit confused. - why not verify dkim ? It seems fine for your message. I

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread Julien Salort
Le 09/02/2022 à 16:55, Benny Pedersen a écrit : hope maillist users turn there dkim signers into sign only, not verify aswell, verify must only happen in dmarc I am a little bit confused. - why not verify dkim ? It seems fine for your message. I get: Received-SPF: Pass (mailfrom)

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread justina colmena ~biz
Google, Yahoo and Microsoft, the big providers all use ARC, and have used it for years. But Wikipedia doesn't have much nice to say about it. --> allows a receiving service to validate an email when the email's SPF and DKIM records are rendered invalid by an intermediate server's processing.

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-09 16:16, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2022-02-09 14:33, Aki Tuomi wrote: We did that replacement for a while, but people complained. We have ARC signing there, unfortunately it only works if you trust it. ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; talvi.dovecot.org; dkim=pass

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2022-02-09 14:33, Aki Tuomi wrote: We did that replacement for a while, but people complained. We have ARC signing there, unfortunately it only works if you trust it. ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; talvi.dovecot.org; dkim=pass header.d=open-xchange.com header.s=201705 header.b=kWkbHwXq;

Re: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread justina colmena ~biz
On February 4, 2022 11:56:53 AM AKST, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > After that I've got several DMARC reports about "spam" from my domain. All > these reports are about my mailing list post. > Interesting. That's exactly how DMARC is supposed to work with reporting enabled. So you've got that

Re: Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-09 Thread Aki Tuomi
. > > -Ursprungligt meddelande- > Från: dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org För Lev > Serebryakov > Skickat: den 4 februari 2022 21:58 > Till: dovecot@dovecot.org > Ämne: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC > > > My domain (serebr

Sv: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-04 Thread Sebastian Nielsen
mailing lists sometimes change or reencode content so DKIM signature fails. -Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: dovecot-boun...@dovecot.org För Lev Serebryakov Skickat: den 4 februari 2022 21:58 Till: dovecot@dovecot.org Ämne: dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC My

dovecot mailing list (this mailing list), DKIM, SPF and DMARC

2022-02-04 Thread Lev Serebryakov
My domain (serebrtyajov.spb.ru) has all these "new" e-mail technologies configured. It works fine till I write to this mailing list. After that I've got several DMARC reports about "spam" from my domain. All these reports are about my mailing list post. I don't have such problems with