Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D (E.H. Russell)

2020-06-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
This seems as good a time as any to present our new slogan: Elecraft: Full-contact ham radio. Wayne > On Jun 27, 2020, at 6:08 PM, Douglas Zwiebel wrote: > > 1. Nice job by 2RF. > > 2. Instant reply calling his approach smoke signals > > 3. 2RF sez "nope" > > 4. Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D (E.H. Russell)

2020-06-27 Thread Douglas Zwiebel
1. Nice job by 2RF. 2. Instant reply calling his approach smoke signals 3. 2RF sez "nope" 4. Elecraft effectively sez: 2RF post is NOT fake news and cites some possible issues. Good for Elecraft (as usual). Vetting on a pre-reflector posting basis is a GREAT idea. We are all anxious to

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-27 Thread Wayne Burdick
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Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-25 Thread Charlie T
25, 2020 8:32 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D I would have to say both sound better then my KX3 speaker. ;-) And I'm waiting for my K4D! BTW, the recording doesn't sound as good and my K2. :-) So we'll see if the K4 can hold up

[Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-25 Thread William Carpenter
Thanks for the audio! I was running an old Heathkit SB-104A at 100 watts to a 43' vertical, the old girl doesn't sound too bad on either rig but the K4D does sound better to my ears. I had been working FT8 on my K3 but decided to call CQ on the Heath for grins. Glad you heard us! 73, Bill NZ0T

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-25 Thread Macy monkeys
Thanks for doing these recordings, Bob. John K7FD > On Jun 24, 2020, at 10:00 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > > I probably should have backed off the RF gain on the K4 as I had done on > the K3, instead of leaving it wide open on a noisy band like 40m. > > 73, > Bob, N6TV > >> On Wed, Jun

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-25 Thread WILLIE BABER
I like k2 audio too but it seems that some of the difference compared to k3 is the lower I-F gain in k2.  So I reduced I-F gain in k3. K2 audio still wins but nothing I have used here slices through cw pileups like k3, or hears a weak signal better. The main action I took to enjoy k3 audio was

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-25 Thread kt5te
I would have to say both sound better then my KX3 speaker. ;-) And I'm waiting for my K4D! BTW, the recording doesn't sound as good and my K2. :-) So we'll see if the K4 can hold up against the K2. :-) -- 73, William KT5TE On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:32:51 PM CDT Macy monkeys

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-25 Thread Peter Chamalian
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Bob Wilson, N6TV Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2020 10:24 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D This afternoon I made a 3-1/2 minute audio recording of two stations in QSO with each other on 40 CW, using

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-24 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
I probably should have backed off the RF gain on the K4 as I had done on the K3, instead of leaving it wide open on a noisy band like 40m. 73, Bob, N6TV On Wed, Jun 24, 2020, 8:48 PM Macy monkeys wrote: > When I say smoother it's a very subjective observation. You mentioned AGC > differences

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-24 Thread Macy monkeys
When I say smoother it's a very subjective observation. You mentioned AGC differences and that may very well be what I'm hearing. John K7FD > On Jun 24, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:33 PM Macy monkeys wrote: > >> Overall, the K3 sounded a little

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-24 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 8:33 PM Macy monkeys wrote: > Overall, the K3 sounded a little smoother to my ears. I do not own a K3 > nor have I ordered a K4. But I would be happy with either one! > Please define "smoother". I prefer the K4 audio. Note that the recording starts with K3 audio. 73,

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-24 Thread Wayne Burdick
Bob, The DSP code isn't quite settled yet. I can help you further optimize the K4 settings, including AGC and NR. (Note that the NR settings are completely different between the two. We're also working on a much more advanced NR algorithm the doesn't have the "hollow" LMS sound of the

Re: [Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-24 Thread Macy monkeys
Overall, the K3 sounded a little smoother to my ears. I do not own a K3 nor have I ordered a K4. But I would be happy with either one! John K7FD > On Jun 24, 2020, at 7:24 PM, Bob Wilson, N6TV wrote: > > 73, __ Elecraft mailing

[Elecraft] New CW audio recording: K3 vs. K4D

2020-06-24 Thread Bob Wilson, N6TV
This afternoon I made a 3-1/2 minute audio recording of two stations in QSO with each other on 40 CW, using both a K3 and K4D, and switching back and forth. Download here (2.3 MB): https://www.kkn.net/~n6tv/K3_vs_K4D_CW_Audio_by_N6TV_20200625.mp3 Recorded off rear headphone jack using an MK2R+