[PSES] DoC - reference to ROHS directive

2024-04-21 Thread Amund Westin
I have the last 10+ years made reference to ROHS directive 2011/65/EU in the DoC. Now, I have been told to switch to 2015/863/EU? Is that correct? >From what I see on the EU web site, 2015/863 is a Commission Delegated Directive, amending Annex II to Directive 2011/65/EU As I understand,

[PSES] IEC 61000-6-5 vs. IEC 61000-6-2

2024-04-17 Thread Amund Westin
IEC EN 61000-6-2, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Part 6-2: Generic standards - Immunity for industrial environments IEC EN 61000-6-5, Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Part 6-5: Generic standards - Immunity for equipment used in power station and substation environment I'm quite

[PSES] SV: [PSES] 863MHz - Short Range Devices

2024-04-02 Thread Amund Westin
nor endorsed by it. From: Amund Westin Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2024 1:04 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] 863MHz - Short Range Devices Case: Running an IoT device with center frequency 863.00MHz and with occupied bandwidth 200kHz. Suc

[PSES] 863MHz - Short Range Devices

2024-04-02 Thread Amund Westin
Case: Running an IoT device with center frequency 863.00MHz and with occupied bandwidth 200kHz. Such setup would mean that half the spectrum would fall into the 862MHz band. My first thoughts would be, that it is outside the Band K (863-865) and not allowed. I would have to at least step it

[PSES] EN 61000-6-2 Surge

2024-03-14 Thread Amund Westin
I have been told that surge test must be conducted to a DC-port. Is that correct if the DC-port is supplied with 12VDC from a standby-batteri, which is installed close by the product and with maximum 1 meter cable? BR Amund -

Re: [PSES] CE DoC - 3.part device inclosed with our product

2024-03-05 Thread Amund Westin
when used in operation with each other. Address the risk I guess in a user manual? I assume the our DoC should include the adapter, because we put the combination of two products on the market. We have to declare that CE + CE = CE in this case. On 2024-03-05 10:43, Amund Westin

[PSES] CE DoC - 3.part device inclosed with our product

2024-03-05 Thread Amund Westin
We buy in CE-marked ACDC adapters from third-party manufacturers. We then include adapters together with our product in a common packaging. Do we have to provide original DoC for adapters along with our own DoC in the package or do we not need to do any action for these adapters? I cannot find

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 300 220 - TX duty cycle for SDR

2024-02-21 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Charlie Would you accept "Listen-before-talk" as "polite spectrum access"? Best regards Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 20. februar 2024 10:38 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] EN 300 220 - TX duty

[PSES] EN 300 220 - TX duty cycle for SDR

2024-02-20 Thread Amund Westin
The Duty Cycle at the operating frequency shall not be greater than values in annex B or any NRI for the chosen operational frequency band(s). From Annex B, table B.1: Channel access and occupation rules (e.g. Duty cycle or LBT + AFA) Duty cycle can be 10%, 1% or 0.1%, depending on the

[PSES] Test lab in Germany - LVD testing

2024-01-23 Thread Amund Westin
On behalf of a local company, I’m looking for a German test lab within LVD testing (EN 62368-1). I have a listing of all CB scheme labs in Germany but would appreciate suggestions of other labs. Thanks! Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Mvh Amund Westin

[PSES] Lithium battery label / marking

2023-12-05 Thread Amund Westin
Product (Multimedia Equipment) that contains Lithium battery We know there are various required labels on packaging for ground/air transportation. But the product itself, does it need a battery label / marking on the outside enclosure? Can’t remember seeing such a label. BR Amund -

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act

2023-11-28 Thread Amund Westin
must pass other devices before it's on the Internet . ? BR Amund Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 28. november 2023 13:43 Til: 'Charlie Blackham' ; 'EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG' Emne: SV: [PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act Great Information, Charlie. One thing . Let's say a temperat

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act

2023-11-28 Thread Amund Westin
om/> https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2023 7:48 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] EU Cyber Resili

[PSES] EU Cyber Resilience Act

2023-11-27 Thread Amund Westin
I have heard rumors about August 01, 2025, from that date the EU Cyber Resilience Act is mandatory and part of the CE marking (for relevant RED/radio products) Is it correct rumors? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE

[PSES] EN 55011:2016 + A2:2021

2023-11-06 Thread Amund Westin
I can’t find any reference to A2:2021 in any EMC Harmonized standard list. Does it mean we should not make any reference to in in the DoC? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

[PSES] SV: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)

2023-11-02 Thread Amund Westin
of my employer. From: Amund Westin <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:41 AM To: Ted Eckert <mailto:ted.eck...@microsoft.com> ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: SV: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Gene

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
standard, there will be a transition period where both editions will be harmonised. Best regards Boštjan Poslano iz Outlook za Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> _ From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 12:07:05 PM To: Bo

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
d for CE marking and they remain valid in other countries until those national authorities have withdrawn them Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 05466247

[PSES] SV: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
EMC apply. Then the product could be put on the market without any safety related tests .. Is that correct? BR Amund Fra: Ted Eckert Sendt: 31. oktober 2023 16:10 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [EXTERNAL] [PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD

[PSES] SV: [PSES] EN 62368-1 : 2014

2023-11-01 Thread Amund Westin
Hi all Any news about the future standing for the EN62368-1 : 2014? My understanding is that EN62368-1 : 2020 is still not listed in OJ, even though it should replace EN62368-1 : 2014 in June 2024. In parallel, EN62368-1 : 2023 is still under work and what do we expect as a date to

[PSES] General Product Safety Directive (GPSD)

2023-10-31 Thread Amund Westin
General Product Safety Directive ... Do I interpret correct that GPSD only apply to consumer products? Not for any professional products? And the new General Product Safety Regulation (GPSR) do the same? BR Amund - This message

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Wire insulation - Flammability - IEC/EN 62368-1

2023-10-26 Thread Amund Westin
ween 1300h to 1730h from Monday to Friday. For inquiries, bookings, and testing updates please send us an email on he...@unit3compliance.co.uk <mailto:he...@unit3compliance.co.uk> or call 01274 911747. Our lead times for testing and consultancy are typically 4-5 weeks. From: Am

[PSES] Wire insulation - Flammability - IEC/EN 62368-1

2023-10-24 Thread Amund Westin
As long as wire in PS1/ES 1, there are no flammability requirements for the wire insulation? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
e.co.uk | ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk +44(0)1274 911747 | +44(0)7811 139957 2 Wellington Business Park, New Lane, Bradford, BD4 8AL Registered in England and Wales # 10574298 -Original Message- From: Amund Westin Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 3:27 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Su

[PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 includes requirements (Annex M) to IEC/EN 62133-2

2023-10-16 Thread Amund Westin
An IT product must comply to EN62368-1. It contains Lithium LiPo batter. According to EN/IEC62368-1-1:2020, § M.2 Safety of batteries and their cells, the standard IEC 62133-2 is listed, and batteries and cells shall comply according to that standard. Could this be interpreted as an invariable

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-10-05 Thread Amund Westin
EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes Television and radio receivers are within scope of RED  (they weren’t under R) <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> @Amund Westin – you should be careful det

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-10-05 Thread Amund Westin
not. Tricky case …. BR Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 5. oktober 2023 09:38 Til: rmm.priv...@gmail.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Amund Westin Emne: RE: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes Television and radio receivers are within scope of RED  (they weren’t

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-10-04 Thread Amund Westin
information, do you think we are still within RED or are we now outside RED? ….. Best regards Amund Fra: Charlie Blackham Sendt: 5. september 2023 09:35 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes Amund Yes

[PSES] RED certificate - validity period

2023-09-21 Thread Amund Westin
The RED EU-Type Examination Certificates I have seen, are valid for 4 years. Is the validity period something regulated by the EU or is it up to the Notified Body to set the period on the RED certificate? Best regards Amund -

[PSES] Radio receivers under RED? Yes

2023-09-05 Thread Amund Westin
I think we have discussed this topic previous, but I can’t find the email tread. But I assume it is the fact the equipment that even only receive, will anyway be included under RED. In this case, it’s a radio receiver measurement device with whip antenna mounted and that receives in the VHF/UHF

[PSES] Flame testing lab

2023-08-24 Thread Amund Westin
We have some pieces of plastic that need to be tested, if they are UL94V-0 compliant. Anyone who knows European labs that deliver such service? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society

[PSES] SV: [PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR

2023-08-13 Thread Amund Westin
and the camera. On 2023-08-13 16:57, Amund Westin wrote: To avoid a lot of paper use, it is possible to leave a short instruction with the product to enter a web site or use affixed QR code (on product) to get access to the User manual and other relevant documentation? Should such a symbol Link

[PSES] SV: [PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR

2023-08-13 Thread Amund Westin
Can’t find info about this in the Blue Guide Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 13. august 2023 17:57 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR To avoid a lot of paper use, it is possible to leave a short instruction with the product

[PSES] User manual by accompanying documents or via affixed QR

2023-08-13 Thread Amund Westin
To avoid a lot of paper use, it is possible to leave a short instruction with the product to enter a web site or use affixed QR code (on product) to get access to the User manual and other relevant documentation? Should such a symbol Link https://www.iso.org/obp/ui#iso:grs:7000:3500 also be

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Generic radio standard for aeronautical service

2023-06-14 Thread Amund Westin
al Message- From: Amund Westin Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2023 4:44 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Generic radio standard for aeronautical service After some searching, we see that there is a lack of radio standards that cover an important ground-based product / system

[PSES] Generic radio standard for aeronautical service

2023-06-13 Thread Amund Westin
After some searching, we see that there is a lack of radio standards that cover an important ground-based product / system within aeronautical services. How should we proceed with finding relevant test requirements? Are there any generic radio requirements that can be used as a basis? BR Amund

[PSES] EMC directive - does not apply ...

2023-05-31 Thread Amund Westin
2014/30EU, article 2, This Directive shall not apply to: (e) custom built evaluation kits destined for professionals to be used solely at research and development facilities for such purposes. Does the statement accept that a manufacturer ship the product ( a prototype) to a

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding

2023-04-01 Thread Amund Westin
of shielding effectiveness", then maybe this will work for you. Best of luck, -Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA <mailto:doug...@gmail.com> doug...@gmail.com <https://www.linkedin.com/in/coloradocomplianceguy/> LinkedIn (UTC -06:00, US-MDT)

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding

2023-04-01 Thread Amund Westin
what kind of testing is desired. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 _ From: Amund Westin Reply-To: Amund Westin Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 19:33:21 +0200 To: Subject: [PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding Please check out the datasheet attached. Anyone here in the forum that have

[PSES] Comtest Architectural Shielding

2023-03-28 Thread Amund Westin
Please check out the datasheet attached. Anyone here in the forum that have experience with this type of shielding? The goal is => a manufacturer wants to build a pre-testing site in-house (5m x 2m x 2m). Thanks for any comments. BR Amund -

[PSES] Test lab will not test devices with LiPo batteries

2023-03-23 Thread Amund Westin
I was in touch with a test lab lately regarding environmental testing (shock, temp cycling, etc.) a device with internal LiPo batteries. They were very concern about testing such device, because if could cause fire, explode, etc. during test. They did not want to test devices which contained

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transportation

2023-02-15 Thread Amund Westin
ted inside the final product. Best regards Amund Fra: John Mcbain Sendt: 13. februar 2023 07:30 Til: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Kopi: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org <mailto:EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org> Emne: Re: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transpor

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transportation

2023-02-13 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks John, IATA is a good advice. I’ll check that.. The batteries will always be mounted inside the final product. Best regards Amund Fra: John Mcbain Sendt: 13. februar 2023 07:30 Til: Amund Westin Kopi: EMC-PSTC@listserv.ieee.org Emne: Re: [PSES] Product with LiPo battery

[PSES] Product with LiPo battery - transportation

2023-02-12 Thread Amund Westin
We're going to ship (by aircraft) a ITE product which has LiPo battery build into the electronic design. The concerns are situations that can cause a fire during the transport. The Li-po battery itself is tested and certified according to UN38.3 : Transport of dangerous goods. Anyone who know

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Link to secondary legislation draft RE: [PSES] SI amendment providing UKCA label deadline extension.

2022-11-25 Thread Amund Westin
Sorry if I have missed that information, but where can I find requirements for the UKCA logo which shall be affixed to the product. Need the check out the shape, minimum size, etc. Just like the CE logo has requirements. Thanks! BR Amund Fra: Lauren Crane Sendt: 16. november

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SI amendment providing UKCA label deadline extension.

2022-11-15 Thread Amund Westin
So we carry on as before … CE mark the product and issue the (CE) EU declaration of Conformity up to Dec. 31, 2024? The UKCA mark and UKCA declaration of Conformity will be voluntary in addition to the CE marking? Best regards Amund Fra: Tom Smith Sendt: 15. november 2022

[PSES] SV: [PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023

2022-11-06 Thread Amund Westin
, but with UK standards included together with the EN standards. Right? BR Amund Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 7. november 2022 07:15 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023 «The UK Conformity Assessed (UKCA) mark is a mandatory mark

[PSES] UKCA marking replaces the CE on 01/01/2023

2022-11-06 Thread Amund Westin
«The UK Conformity Assessed (UKCA) mark is a mandatory mark on certain products, for example mobile phones, to indicate that they conform to Great Britain legislation. Businesses have until 1 January 2023 to start using UKCA marking which replaces the CE and reverse epsilon markings now that we

[PSES] Clearance components

2022-10-26 Thread Amund Westin
Folks, IEC62368-1 or maybe any standards since it would concern all kind of electronics … * Clearance / spacing from a warm component and to nearby components/parts that might be combustible, is this categorized as the PIS issues (Potential Ignition Source) or is it a different

[PSES] EN 62368-1 - device include batteries (LiPo)

2022-09-05 Thread Amund Westin
Some thoughts . Device with a metallic enclosure, covering the batteries, will reduce the concern for -issues, as long as there are no significant large holes in the enclosures. PCB and other components close to the battery compartment, are V-0 flame class, and no possible path for potential

[PSES] Off topic - Outlook issue

2022-08-31 Thread Amund Westin
I have got a Chromebook workstation. As far as I know, I can’t run Outlook locally on a Chrome OS. So, I want to make all my emails (the email file, Outlook.pst) available for net Outlook net version (Office 365). Tried to find the procedure to do this, but with no luck. And Mr. Gates and

[PSES] IEC/EN 62368-1 Test report template

2022-08-31 Thread Amund Westin
We are considering a review of the standard IEC/EN 62368-1. A test report template would be helpful. Anyone who sell such a template? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

[PSES] SV: [PSES] FW: Intertek message FYI: Important Update: Pending Regulatory Change to UKCA Program

2022-08-04 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks! So, currently we can just use our existing CE DoC documents, but from 01.01.2023, those documents are not valid and an UKCA approval must be in place … right? If that’s the fact, the period to 01.01.2023 is short and I would prepare for an UKCA approval right now. BR Amund

[PSES] UKCA - announcement from GOV.UK

2022-07-17 Thread Amund Westin
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-make-it-simpler-for-busines ses-to-apply-new-product-safety-markings Our plan was to go through an EU Notified Body and apply for the UKCA approval. Does this announcement make any really differences? BR Amund -

[PSES] UKCA

2022-06-28 Thread Amund Westin
What is your experience: * Will a UKCA Notified Body normally approve the use of old test results (approx. 10 years old EMC report) under a conformity assessment today? We are preparing for some EMC testing, but wanted to re-use some results, to keep down the scope as much as possible. The

[PSES] Chasing a specific frequency

2022-05-05 Thread Amund Westin
During a radiated emission test, we have a problem with one specific frequency, 63MHz. Not exactly 63.00MHz but like 63.03406…. We have calculated all combinations of intermodulation products from oscillators on the pcb, but no one match the 63MHz. There are a lots of DC/DC converters on the

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368)

2022-02-24 Thread Amund Westin
. 781-721-2848 (USA) j...@randolph-telecom.com <mailto:j...@randolph-telecom.com> http://www.randolph-telecom.com <http://www.randolph-telecom.com/> From: Amund Westin [mailto:am...@westin-emission.no] Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2022 2:57 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368)

2022-02-16 Thread Amund Westin
give access to secondary circuits. Best regards Amund Fra: Richard Nute Sendt: 16. februar 2022 23:09 Til: 'Amund Westin' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368) Hi Amund: Since the unit does not have grounding

[PSES] Numbers of insulation layers in transformer (IEC62368)

2022-02-16 Thread Amund Westin
Do I need one or two insulation layers (tape) between the primary and secondary windings? Can find an absolute answer in the standard IEC62368. Product: Input 230VAC Secondary 24VDC for other Low volt circuits No grounding /earthing No cable outputs Plastic enclosure Radio HUB

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IP Code Question

2022-02-15 Thread Amund Westin
IP66 is for harsh outdoor conditions (industrial, offshore, ships, carwash, etc.) IPX6 : powerful water jets (water hose :100 liters / minute). IP67 (temporary immersion in water) Best regards Amund Fra: sudhakar wasnik Sendt: 14. februar 2022 22:57 Til:

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Max Hold Quasi-peak ?

2021-12-06 Thread Amund Westin
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG; Amund Westin Emne: RE: [PSES] Max Hold Quasi-peak ? Hi, I agree with the statements mentioned. It depends on the nature of the disturbance and you would have to find out what is happening during that period of time. I would also suggest to review CISPR 16-2-1, specifically

[PSES] Max Hold Quasi-peak ?

2021-12-05 Thread Amund Westin
Some weeks ago I went to a test lab as an observer on a CE marking project (IT product). I participated on the radiated emission testing and some frequencies were above the limit line during the scan (peak measurement). Later on, the Quasi-Peak measurement lowered the values significant

[PSES] SV: [PSES] RED standard for LoRa sensor end device

2021-12-03 Thread Amund Westin
ngland and Wales, number 05466247 From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: 03 December 2021 08:58 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] RED standard for LoRa sensor end device Checking out the harmonized EU st

[PSES] RED standard for LoRa sensor end device

2021-12-03 Thread Amund Westin
Checking out the harmonized EU standards, but can’t find any specific radio standard for LoRa devices (operates in the 868MHz band) Anyone who has experience about appropriate standard? The first that comes in my mind is EN 300 220 series. Best regards Amund -

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-15 Thread Amund Westin
na is within the enclosure so no accessible conductive parts. If the antenna is an accessible conductive part, then the above scenario is not valid. Stay safe, and best regards, Rich From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2021 10:16 A

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-15 Thread Amund Westin
ssary for basic insulation. Should easily pass. I have assumed the antenna is within the enclosure so no accessible conductive parts. If the antenna is an accessible conductive part, then the above scenario is not valid. Stay safe, and best regards, Rich From: Amund Westi

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-15 Thread Amund Westin
Should easily pass. I have assumed the antenna is within the enclosure so no accessible conductive parts. If the antenna is an accessible conductive part, then the above scenario is not valid. Stay safe, and best regards, Rich From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.

[PSES] Creepage and clearance requirements

2021-09-12 Thread Amund Westin
IEC60950-1: How about the Creepage and clearance requirements for an AC driven radio HUB device. * One input: 230VAC (direct into wall socket) * No physical output ports, just radio communication. * Insulated plastic enclosure (UL94 V-0) The Creepage and clearance

[PSES] Radiated emission - troubleshooting with current clamp

2021-06-09 Thread Amund Westin
We did some EMC testing last week (radiated emission in a chamber) on a ventilation system with two fans. It exceeded the limits on 145MHz. Then outside the camber, we shut down the fans, we found the 145MHz on a bus line from a controller (3rd part product). Connecting the fans back again,

[PSES] Surtec 650

2021-05-20 Thread Amund Westin
Planning to coat the an aluminum part with Surtec 650 https://www.surtec.com/en/products/surtec-650/ before painting so we get minimum resistance before bonding the gasket. Anyone who have experience with Surtec 650? Best regards Amund -

[PSES] EMC Product standard

2021-05-18 Thread Amund Westin
Looking for some examples of EMC Product standards that as commonly used under CE marking. So far, I have only found a lot of Product Family standards . Thanks for some examples ! Best regards Amund - This message is from

[PSES] Become CB member

2021-04-22 Thread Amund Westin
Anyone who knows there we can find the procedure for becoming a CB test lab and issuing CB certificates? And for those who have been into this process, how long time from start to end? years? Thanks! Amund - This message is

[PSES] Adaptive Power Control (SRD - Short Range Devices)

2021-03-28 Thread Amund Westin
https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32018D1538 =EN Quote : Question: Could LBT (Listen-before-talk) be such an alternative technique? Any other suggestions? Best regards

[PSES] Electrical safety certification for US / Canada

2021-02-16 Thread Amund Westin
The following can issue Electrical safety certifications: CSA UL FM Any others? It's IT-products. BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the

[PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Amund Westin
When IEC publish a standard, do UL adopt it as is, or do they modify it? I guess this will vary form case to case. Right? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Thoughts on what may be the emission source

2020-11-28 Thread Amund Westin
Derek, 240/480MHz sound like USB 2.0 High speed It's 4 USB-ports on the RPi ? Br Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: DEREK WALTON Sendt: 28. november 2020 00:49 Til: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: [PSES] Thoughts on what may be the emission source Hi Folks, I’m working on a

[PSES] Plastic enclosure manufacturer

2020-11-22 Thread Amund Westin
Looking for plastic enclosure manufacturers for custom box design. We have prepared a first 3D drawing, but need help to smoothen the look and make a first small production serie. Any recommended manufactures out there? Thanks! Best regards Amund Westin Oslo, Norway

[PSES] SV: [PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-22 Thread Amund Westin
ales, number 05466247 -Original Message- From: Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > Sent: 21 November 2020 10:01 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG <mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG> Subject: [PSES] ROHS and DoC For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is sti

[PSES] ROHS and DoC

2020-11-21 Thread Amund Westin
For EU compliance, I assume Directive 2011/65/EU is still the correct reference to use? I see several parties who is referring to 2015/863 in their DoC, but isn't that reference just a replacement for Annex II in 2011/65/EU? Best regards Amund -

[PSES] SV: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 - coin cell batteries inside product

2020-10-29 Thread Amund Westin
S/NE) Sendt: 29. oktober 2020 19:10 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 - coin cell batteries inside product Hello Amund, During a recent test (IECEE CB Scheme) for a product containing a CR2032, a certificate to IEC 60086-4 was required for the 6

[PSES] IEC/EN62368-1 - coin cell batteries inside product

2020-10-29 Thread Amund Westin
Anyone who have been through an IEC/EN62368-1 test process at an accredited lab ? . and if your product had coin cell batteries (IEC60086-4), what kind of documentation was needed for showing compliance for the batteries? Manufacturer datasheet or a certificate according to IEC60086-4? Thanx!

[PSES] IEC 61000-4-18 vs. MIL-STD 461 CS116

2020-10-04 Thread Amund Westin
1. IEC 61000-4-18:2019 - Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) - Part 4-18: Testing and measurement techniques - Damped oscillatory wave immunity test 2. MIL-STD 461, CS116, conducted susceptibility, damped sinusoidal transients, cables and power Are these two tests quite different?

[PSES] In-house Conducted emission test equipment

2020-09-03 Thread Amund Westin
Need to establish a pre-qual test setup for Conducted emission testing in-house. EUT will be 400V / 16A. Any suggestion on such low cost test eqiupment? LISN and spectrum analyzer …. Best regards Amund - This message is from

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse

2020-07-01 Thread Amund Westin
l also be reflected when later on doing this with a LISN. Anyone who have tried such troubleshooting technique? Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Mvh Amund Westin ** Cell: (+47) 920 17 031 E-mail: <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> am...@westin

[PSES] SV: Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse

2020-06-29 Thread Amund Westin
about that ground connection to the main part? Correct type of filter? .. BR Amund -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: Amund Westin Sendt: 28. juni 2020 10:59 Til: EMC PSTC Emne: Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse A 3-phase product has three in

[PSES] Conducted emission - AC line filters makes it worse

2020-06-28 Thread Amund Westin
A 3-phase product has three internal AC driven devices. The product fails on Conducted emission. When connecting AC filters to each internal AC driven devices, the emission gets even worse. Any clue about this phenomena? Is it some kind of impedance mismatch which derate the filters

[PSES] Electrical safety testing US and Canada ... Mandatory ?

2020-05-25 Thread Amund Westin
Sorry for bringing up this issue again, but I have lost my history for all previous IEEE mails ... I know (assume ...) that UL, CSA, FM and others are voluntary for showing compliance. But that is actually required by law in US and C? Thanks! Best regards Amund -

[PSES] SV: [PSES] 21 CFR § 1040.10 - Laser products.

2020-05-19 Thread Amund Westin
and meaning are a little tricky. The amount of time consumed sort of depends on whether you are dealing with a product that fits nicely 'between the lines'. Regards, -Lauren -Original Message- From: Amund Westin < <mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> am...@westin-emission.

[PSES] 21 CFR § 1040.10 - Laser products.

2020-05-19 Thread Amund Westin
Anyone who have been through the process for complying to 21 CFR § 1040.10? Time consuming process? BR Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

2020-03-19 Thread Amund Westin
. Fra: Gert Gremmen Sendt: 18. mars 2020 09:52 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes Any signal flowing in the SIGNAL layer, will when getting to the load have to choose between 2 ground layers. (when

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

2020-03-19 Thread Amund Westin
signal /crtl. lines Regards Amund Fra: James Pawson (U3C) Sendt: 18. mars 2020 09:51 Til: 'Amund Westin' ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: RE: [PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes Hi Amund, Are the distances from GND1-Signal the same as Signal-GND2 i.e

[PSES] Stripline - discontinuity in adjacent ground planes

2020-03-18 Thread Amund Westin
for the traces in the adjacent SIGNAL layer? Best regards Amund Westin - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to All

[PSES] RED - risk assessment

2020-03-07 Thread Amund Westin
When going for a RED certificate from a Notified Body, have you received a risk assessment template to fill in or do you supply with your own self-made risk document? (Maybe based on CENELEC guide 32 . ) Best regards Amund -

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB

2020-02-22 Thread Amund Westin
are many other potential places for EMI leakage. We will use a sniffer to check out. Best regards Amund Fra: Istvan Novak Sendt: 21. februar 2020 14:28 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne: Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB Hi

[PSES] SV: [PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB

2020-02-18 Thread Amund Westin
, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:03 AM Amund Westin mailto:am...@westin-emission.no> > wrote: Between two solid ground planes, we have a signal layer, routing high speed differential lines. What do you recommend: I. fill the remaining area with copper in the signal layer II. fil

[PSES] Ground copper fill on signal layer on multilayer PCB

2020-02-18 Thread Amund Westin
Between two solid ground planes, we have a signal layer, routing high speed differential lines. What do you recommend: I. fill the remaining area with copper in the signal layer II. fill only the border of the layer (5mm ground copper trace around the layer edge) III.no fill at

Re: [PSES] SV: [PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-14 Thread Amund Westin
Blog (EDN) [4] Subscribe to Newsletter [5] Connect with me on LinkedIn [6] On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:29 AM, Gert Gremmen wrote: It s an extra layer you might allocate to that low frequency signals , analog signals and or extra power supply. On 10-2-2020 10:22, Amund Westin wrote: Thanks Gert I want

[PSES] SV: [PSES] SV: [PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-12 Thread Amund Westin
t; Connect with me on LinkedIn On Feb 10, 2020, at 2:29 AM, Gert Gremmen mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl> > wrote: It s an extra layer you might allocate to that low frequency signals , analog signals and or extra power supply. On 10-2-2020 10:22, Amund Westin wrote: Thanks Gert I

[PSES] SV: [PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-10 Thread Amund Westin
Thanks Gert I want to read your advices with great attention. Just one immediately follow-up ==>This Misc layer, is it an extra layer for signal routing, as a Sbott3? Mvh Amund Fra: Gert Gremmen Sendt: 10. februar 2020 09:57 Til: Amund Westin ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Emne:

[PSES] PCB layout technique - multilayer

2020-02-09 Thread Amund Westin
I'm looking for articles about how to do good EMC layout on multilayer PCB. Choice of PCB layer stacking (8 or 10 layers) and basic routing techniques are the issues of most importance right now. Appreciate if you have some experience about good or bad layer stacking. Thanks! Best

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