Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-19 Thread Charlie Blackham
Not come across this before, but according to Press release Europeans for Safe Connections, September, 2021 - Stop 5G International What exactly is a European Citizens’ Initiative or ECI? A European

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-19 Thread Colin Wilson
What do we think will come out of this: COMMISSION IMPLEMENTING DECISION (EU) 2021/1828 of 7 October 2021 on the request for registration of the European citizens’ initiative entitled ‘Stop (((5G))) – Stay Connected but Protected’ pursuant to Regulation (EU) 2019/788 of the European

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-18 Thread Matthew Wilson | GBE
I don't think this issue regards radio spectrum use will ever get resolved ever. Why - well explained rather neatly by Ben Goldache's answer to, "How many epidemiologists does it take to change a lightbulb?" We've found 12,000 switches hidden around the house. Some of them turn this

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-17 Thread John Woodgate
Well, the abstract contains no information on the EMF strengths that are said to cause unwanted effects and trashes one study that found no significant effect. I can't help feeling that the huge field experiment of millions using Wi-Fi has to be taken into account.

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-17 Thread Dan Roman
Although simply a news article from CNET, here is some additional information including references to Dr. Pall’s work. The reader can draw their own conclusions. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/is-5g-making-you-sick-probably-not/ From: 058ee1229c70-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-16 Thread 0000058ee1229c70-dmarc-request
Hi John, Here is one such paper of Dr. Pall published July 2018: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355#t0005 ABSTRACT Repeated Wi-Fi studies show that Wi-Fi causes oxidative stress, sperm/testicular damage, neuropsychiatric effects including EEG changes,

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-16 Thread Ruth Shapira
I agree strongly with Dan comments on the 5G issue. Is cleat that the harmful radiation levels established by international and/or national regulatory bodies no need to be exceeded. These levels, practically consist in a specific risk which is present. In the real world 100% Safety do not

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-16 Thread 0000058ee1229c70-dmarc-request
Dan, Thank you for posting that well-written, objective Chicago-Magazine article on Dr. Joseph Mercola. I must point out, however, that Mercola's article is heavily based on research performed by Dr. Martin Pall, Ph.D. "Pall has a bachelor’s in physics from Johns Hopkins and a Ph.D. in

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-15 Thread Dan Roman
Dr. Mercola is well known and has quite the business in operation refuting fluoridation and fly shots. Decide for yourself.. https://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/February-2012/Dr-Joseph-Mercola-Visionary-or-Quack/ ⁣-- Dan Roman, N.C.E. IEEE Senior Member dan.ro...@ieee.org

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-15 Thread 0000058ee1229c70-dmarc-request
The Harmful Effects of Electromagnetic Fields Explained https://emfcommunity.com/harmful-effects-electromagnetic-fields-explained/ Story at-a-glance - Exposure to microwave EMFs, like cellphones, causes massive mitochondrial dysfunction due to damage done by free radicals from peroxynitrite

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-15 Thread John Allen
Very well put Dan. Where in the risk assessment does it talk about “prudent avoidance”? A toaster is hot and has uninsulated live parts accessible while energized with a known shock hazard. Have a nice weekend!! Best Regards and Be Safe, John John Allen President & CEO Product Safety

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-15 Thread Dan Roman
A Friday thought: Where would we be if "prudent avoidance" was all we ever did? Is this 5G situation overly conservative or just outright lazy because someone didn't do the science to come up with a definitive result? Do people protesting 5G have any basis? Did 5G cause COVID-19? I digress to

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-15 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Manny: Thanks for your comments. I found that if you replace “non-ionizing radiation” with “COVID19” or your favorite issue, the paragraph defines what we all must do with various issues. There's a myriad of opinions on the topic of non-ionizing radiation hazards, some

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-14 Thread Ken Javor
A person¹s viewpoint is critical to know. Several decades ago the keynote speaker at one of the USA IEEE EMC Symposia was a noted medical doctor who worked in this EM bio-effects field. I don¹t recall what all he said in detail, but here¹s the sum and substance. Thermal effects are not the whole

Re: [PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-14 Thread Manny Barron
This is a very good question. There's a myriad of opinions on the topic of non-ionizing radiation hazards, some justified and others not. When I read an article on this topic the first thing I want to try to understand is who wrote it and what is their motivation for writing it. Not saying

[PSES] Will 5G Be Bad for Our Health?

2021-10-14 Thread Richard Nute
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