Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-04 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Spindle will continue to turn a while after, for a smooth stop which probably is required to not break gear box if machine have that angle must be known beforehand and control loop tuned so there is no overshoot. Den 2021-01-03 kl. 23:12, skrev Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users: Overshoot caused

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-04 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le lun. 4 janv. 2021 à 17:33, andy pugh a écrit : > On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 16:27, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > Now that's a hell of a change! > > Should check TurBoss is aware of that work... > > Is there a thread somewhere it is discussed? > > > > Not that I know of, as far as I know Dewey has done

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-04 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 4 Jan 2021 at 16:27, Jérémie Tarot wrote: Now that's a hell of a change! > Should check TurBoss is aware of that work... > Is there a thread somewhere it is discussed? > Not that I know of, as far as I know Dewey has done this by himself. There is a bit more here too:

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-04 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le lun. 4 janv. 2021 à 15:33, andy pugh a écrit : > On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 10:47, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > > > > Have a look at work done lately on tool table improvements in QtPyVCP, > you > > may find what you need about custom fields  > > > > I don't think that tool-table changes belong in a

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-04 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 10:47, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > Have a look at work done lately on tool table improvements in QtPyVCP, you > may find what you need about custom fields  > I don't think that tool-table changes belong in a GUI framework. Please can you take a look at Dewey's new tool data

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Overshoot caused by inertia of the motor and other rotating parts. Without a brake that *stops right now* one must account for the tap to keep turning a bit after the spindle is commanded to stop. If the mechanical and electrical can withstand it, the motor can be reversed at just the right

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2021 15:08:20 Jérémie Tarot wrote: > Le dim. 3 janv. 2021 à 16:15, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > ... > > That's a step in the right direction, but now I have to learn all > > the new settings. > > If you talk about the added fields in QtPyVCP tool table, they add > themselve

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 3 Jan 2021 at 15:14, Gene Heskett wrote: That's a step in the right direction, but now I have to learn all the new > settings. But, on closer inspection, I don't see anything that looks > like it could be hijacked for XY offsets. The standard LinuxCNC tool table has supported XYZ (And

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le dim. 3 janv. 2021 à 16:15, Gene Heskett a écrit : > ... > That's a step in the right direction, but now I have to learn all the new > settings. If you talk about the added fields in QtPyVCP tool table, they add themselve to the standard ones so just an update. If you mean setting up a

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 03 January 2021 05:45:31 Jérémie Tarot wrote: > Le sam. 5 sept. 2020 à 23:49, Gene Heskett a écrit : > > ... But with my large and motley > > collection of taps, that will take a bigger tool table, which I'm > > waiting on. The same idea can be used on a mill, but in both cases > >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-03 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le sam. 5 sept. 2020 à 23:49, Gene Heskett a écrit : > ... But with my large and motley > collection of taps, that will take a bigger tool table, which I'm > waiting on. The same idea can be used on a mill, but in both cases in > order to make the subroutine universal, I'll need 2 more data

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-02 Thread Sven Wesley
Den lör 2 jan. 2021 22:11andy pugh skrev: > On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 20:17, Sven Wesley wrote: > > > Going back to original post from Andy, Mazak has some pretty funky GUIs > > nowadays too. > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-02 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 2 Jan 2021 at 20:17, Sven Wesley wrote: > Going back to original post from Andy, Mazak has some pretty funky GUIs > nowadays too. > https://mazakfiles.blob.core.windows.net/web-site/image/403f2cf63ed244ebbd11b6e32a8d8051/PreviewG_image_1.png I think that looks a little _too_ funky :-)

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2021-01-02 Thread Sven Wesley
6 sep. 2020 kl 22:16 skrev Kurt Jacobson : > Aaron Dargel has been working on some pretty neat conversation widgets for > QtPyVCP based ProbeBasic GUI. > So far his just don't basic things like hole circles and facing ops, but > they have excellent sanity checking that makes them almost foolproof

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread Kurt Jacobson
Aaron Dargel has been working on some pretty neat conversation widgets for QtPyVCP based ProbeBasic GUI. So far his just don't basic things like hole circles and facing ops, but they have excellent sanity checking that makes them almost foolproof to use. There are some screenshots here:

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 September 2020 13:22:48 andy pugh wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 17:16, Gene Heskett wrote: > > E: The repository 'http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists buster Release' > > does not > > For non-linuxCNC debs you want "buster base" not found, with or w/o the armhf appended Cheers, Gene

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 17:16, Gene Heskett wrote: > E: The repository 'http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists buster Release' does not For non-linuxCNC debs you want "buster base" -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 September 2020 11:08:51 andy pugh wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 11:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > sudo apt-get install python-rsvg > > > > no installation candidate for the pi's buster. > > I am assuming that you don't have the linuxcnc repository configured? >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 11:10, Gene Heskett wrote: > > sudo apt-get install python-rsvg > no installation candidate for the pi's buster. I am assuming that you don't have the linuxcnc repository configured? http://www.linuxcnc.org/dists/buster/base/binary-armhf/ -- atp "A motorcycle is a

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread Mark
On 9/5/20 3:22 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: to me that there are some nice gcode senders out there that could do what the noisy people want with less work than adapting linuxcnc to be a gcode sender with an as-of-yet undefined distributed control interface on the other end of a non-real time

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 06 September 2020 04:04:29 andy pugh wrote: > sudo apt-get install python-rsvg no installation candidate for the pi's buster. 3 out of 4 machines cannot find it to install it. wheezy apparently got it from the archive, but the other 2 wintel boxes probably need that added to the

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread N
> нд, 6 вер. 2020 о 01:35 andy pugh пише: > > > > > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > > it's hosted separately) > > > > That is a great idea! > We know that LinuxCNC has almost endless

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 01:47, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Have you used NativeCAM? > > > > ( and have you seen sim-gmoccapy-lathe_configs-lathe_macro? ) > > > Nope. Not if it doesn't run on WIN-7. It runs inside LinuxCNC, so of course it doesn't work with Win-7. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread andrew beck
Gotta vote for that too! On Sun, Sep 6, 2020, 6:57 PM Andrew wrote: > нд, 6 вер. 2020 о 01:35 andy pugh пише: > > > > > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > > it's hosted separately) > > > > That

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 01:20, Gene Heskett wrote: > > ( and have you seen sim-gmoccapy-lathe_configs-lathe_macro? ) > Doesn't run here, missing gtk stuffs. sudo apt-get install python-rsvg -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-06 Thread Andrew
нд, 6 вер. 2020 о 01:35 andy pugh пише: > > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > it's hosted separately) > That is a great idea! We know that LinuxCNC has almost endless possibilities, but bringing

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Eric Keller
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 6:35 PM andy pugh wrote: > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > it's hosted separately) > > I like the looks of NativeCam but I wonder if the widgets from QTpyVCP aren't closer

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 00:15, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > > > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > > > it's hosted separately) > > > > > > -- > > You

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 September 2020 19:54:52 andy pugh wrote: > On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 00:15, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > > > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > > > it's hosted separately) > > > > > > -- >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 September 2020 18:32:04 andy pugh wrote: > On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:25, John Dammeyer wrote: > > So I don't think it's whining or complaining to suggest that a nice > > feature to add to the AXIS interface would be another menu entry for > > called say "Operations". And fill it

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 at 00:15, John Dammeyer wrote: > > I wonder if installing NativeCAM by default would be an idea? > > (the problem there is that it is not part of the LinuxCNC project, > > it's hosted separately) > > > > -- > You end up standing in front of the mill screen doing CAD work.

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:25, John Dammeyer < > jo...@autoartisans.com> wrote: > > > So I don't think it's whining or complaining to suggest that a nice feature > > to add to the AXIS interface would be another menu

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread andy pugh
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 at 20:25, John Dammeyer wrote: > So I don't think it's whining or complaining to suggest that a nice feature > to add to the AXIS interface would be another menu entry for called say > "Operations". And fill it in with one item to perform a surfacing operation > G-Code

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 September 2020 15:22:44 John Dammeyer wrote: > > From: Eric Keller [mailto:keller...@gmail.com] > > > > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:11 PM Mark wrote: > > > Folks seem to clamor quite a > > > bit how all this is going to die out and we need to change this, > > > that and every other

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Eric Keller [mailto:keller...@gmail.com] > On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:11 PM Mark wrote: > > > Folks seem to clamor quite a > > bit how all this is going to die out and we need to change this, that > > and every other thing to enable all these other platforms. Yet, none of > > them seem

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Eric Keller
On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 12:11 PM Mark wrote: > Folks seem to clamor quite a > bit how all this is going to die out and we need to change this, that > and every other thing to enable all these other platforms. Yet, none of > them seem to want to grab the software and change it to their wants or >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Lester Caine
On 05/09/2020 16:46, John Dammeyer wrote: OTOH, I have one of these because I don't trust wireless for running the machine. https://www.aliexpress.com/i/32844453793.html I'm running one of those ... perfect and the magnets keep it in place on the side of the mill enclosure ... -- Lester

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 September 2020 11:46:22 John Dammeyer wrote: > > > Or that they were cheap and were installed on a tablet that seems > > > to be ubiquitous these days. Unfortunately, the interface, both > > > input and output systems in the tablets leave a lot to be desired > > > in the context

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Mark
On 9/5/20 11:46 AM, John Dammeyer wrote: Or that they were cheap and were installed on a tablet that seems to be ubiquitous these days. Unfortunately, the interface, both input and output systems in the tablets leave a lot to be desired in the context of a machine shop, at least from what I've

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Mark
On 9/5/20 10:40 AM, N wrote: Or that they were cheap and were installed on a tablet that seems to be ubiquitous these days.  Unfortunately, the interface, both input and output systems in the tablets leave a lot to be desired in the context of a machine shop, at least from what I've seen of

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread John Dammeyer
> > Or that they were cheap and were installed on a tablet that seems to be > > ubiquitous these days. Unfortunately, the interface, both input and > > output systems in the tablets leave a lot to be desired in the context > > of a machine shop, at least from what I've seen of tablets. I just >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread N
On Sat, 5 Sep 2020 08:08:17 -0400 Mark wrote: > On 9/4/20 6:13 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: > > >> > >> Never said I changed from Mach 3 to LinuxCNC. I've not owned a Windows > >> machine for the better part of 30 years. > > Oops. Sorry. For some reason I thought you had. What I'm looking for

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Mark
On 9/4/20 6:13 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: Never said I changed from Mach 3 to LinuxCNC. I've not owned a Windows machine for the better part of 30 years. Oops. Sorry. For some reason I thought you had. What I'm looking for are reasons why perhaps (again other than a dislike of Windows) why

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 05 September 2020 01:10:20 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 15:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Friday 04 September 2020 13:20:26 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 10:02 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 21:43 +0100, andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:17, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > I'm not going to turn this into a rant about Linux command lines but when > > you think about it much of working with LinuxCNC is essentially still > > 'command line' oriented. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 15:39 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 04 September 2020 13:20:26 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 10:02 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt > wrote: > > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread R C
I agree there,  CNC Linux is pretty cool, it can do a lot more than I can ever learn about it..  and it's free... you can't complain about free...   especially if a ton of people like it.. On 9/4/20 6:16 PM, Phill Carter wrote: On 5 Sep 2020, at 4:53 am, Mark Wendt wrote: On Fri, Sep

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Phill Carter
> On 5 Sep 2020, at 4:53 am, Mark Wendt wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:05 PM Chris Albertson > > wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson < >> albertson.ch...@gmail.com

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Jon Elson
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:05 PM Chris Albertson wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson < albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote ...So, to make LinuxCNC nearly universal, hide it inside a product that is slick and easy to install

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:47 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > Mark, > > Why did you change from MACH3 to LinuxCNC? What was it about MACH3 you > > didn't like? Forget for a moment that it's Windows or Linux as a reason. > > What was it that made

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> Axis (and I think all the other GUIs) support this kind of wizard. > There are examples in the sample configs. The problem is that they > have never been in-your-face obvious with a new install, and many are > basically just a demo abandoned by the original developer. > > The hooks all exist. >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 22:27, John Dammeyer wrote: > I've attached a screen shot of a small Lazarus program I wrote last year. It > creates the G-Code. The screenshot was captured on a WIN-7 ASUS laptop. But > the code also compiles and runs on LinuxCNC. I've actually tried it. > Probably

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020, John Dammeyer wrote: From what I understand, the MESA hardware essentially already offloads most of the important real time stuff into the FPGAs. Remember, you can, in addition to quadrature counters, PSI ports etc, fabricate an entire micro-processor inside an FPGA.

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Ed
On 9/4/20 3:14 PM, Mark Wendt wrote: Is this mostly a question of UI's instead of the underlying OS and app? If you did not tell Joe Average that Linuxcnc runs on Linux and just had him run the app I think he would be happy once he got on top of the learning curve. PathPilot seems to very

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
Thanks Andy. > -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-04-20 1:35 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI > > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:17, John Dammeyer wrote: > &g

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:47 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] > > Completely > > redesigning a working system to satisfy a small number of people who > might > > or would like something different I'm sure is not

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Mark Wendt [mailto:wendt.m...@gmail.com] > Completely > redesigning a working system to satisfy a small number of people who might > or would like something different I'm sure is not something the developers > of this great software would consider. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:17, John Dammeyer wrote: > I'm not going to turn this into a rant about Linux command lines but when you > think about it much of working with LinuxCNC is essentially still 'command > line' oriented. Actually, it isn't. But it looks that way from email lists, forums

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 20:17, John Dammeyer wrote: > From what I understand, the MESA hardware essentially already offloads most > of the important real time stuff into the FPGAs. Not really. It moves some of the fast time-critical stuff to the FPGA but it is still _very_much_ reliant on

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:05 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > And I wrote that because of all the pie in the sky whining about what > this > > set of programs needs to be, and no one stepping up to make the effort to > > do something like that. The vast majority of LinuxCNC users are quite > > happy

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 4:01 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > "Start writing code" is the exact WRONG way to start the software project. > In fact, it is a classically wrong way that is common with beginners. > Every software management book written in the last few decades starts out > showing all

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
Hear! Hear! Applause Standing ovation! John Dammeyer > -Original Message- > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > Sent: September-04-20 12:58 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI > >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
> And I wrote that because of all the pie in the sky whining about what this > set of programs needs to be, and no one stepping up to make the effort to > do something like that. The vast majority of LinuxCNC users are quite > happy with what our developers write for us to use. It's open source

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Chris Albertson
"Start writing code" is the exact WRONG way to start the software project. In fact, it is a classically wrong way that is common with beginners. Every software management book written in the last few decades starts out showing all the common mistakes and this is #1 on the list. The best analogy

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 September 2020 13:20:26 Valerio Bellizzomi wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 10:02 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson > > > > > > > > wrote > > > > > > > ...So, to make LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread John Dammeyer
Man. Chris has hit a few buttons here. > From: Chris Albertson [mailto:albertson.ch...@gmail.com] > The real problem with the wider adoption of LinuxCNCis that it is there kit > of parts and does not work out of the box. After that it gets worse, the > parts are unfamiliar to most people. The

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 1:05 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson < > albertson.ch...@gmail.com > > > > > wrote > > > ...So, to make LinuxCNC nearly universal, hide it inside a product that > > is > > >

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Martin Dobbins
> Great stuff! So, when are you going to get started on this project? > I wrote that to show why it will never happen. But also to make a point that there does exist a pattern in the way complex niche products become mainstream. Usually, another layer is built around it.PCs were kind of

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Valerio Bellizzomi
On Fri, 2020-09-04 at 10:02 -0700, Chris Albertson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson > > > > wrote > > > ...So, to make LinuxCNC nearly universal, hide it inside a product that > > is > > > slick and easy to install

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Chris Albertson
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 9:50 AM Mark Wendt wrote: > On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson > > wrote > > ...So, to make LinuxCNC nearly universal, hide it inside a product that > is > > slick and easy to install and use. No one should have to look at HAL > files > > or know it runs on

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt
On Fri, Sep 4, 2020 at 12:41 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > The real problem with the wider adoption of LinuxCNCis that it is there kit > of parts and does not work out of the box. After that it gets worse, the > parts are unfamiliar to most people. > > What is needed before it will see wide use

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Chris Albertson
The real problem with the wider adoption of LinuxCNCis that it is there kit of parts and does not work out of the box. After that it gets worse, the parts are unfamiliar to most people. What is needed before it will see wide use is a re-architecture. Move the real-time components to

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 14:28, Greg Bernard wrote: > > That's one reason I suggested working on making LinuxCNC more appealing to > the Maker community. Younger folks would be likely to take up the challenge > of making such things happen. A bit of a catch-22 -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread Greg Bernard
That's one reason I suggested working on making LinuxCNC more appealing to the Maker community. Younger folks would be likely to take up the challenge of making such things happen. On Fri, Sep 4, 2020, 2:59 AM andy pugh wrote: > On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 07:04, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > > > > If

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread andy pugh
On Fri, 4 Sep 2020 at 07:04, TJoseph Powderly wrote: > > If You are thinking of conversational, you might look at Fanuc Macro B > for ideas. Its a tool they had for conversational programming. Pretty > old school appearance but the idea of a macro dialog interpreter > inside the control was very

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-04 Thread TJoseph Powderly
If You are thinking of conversational, you might look at Fanuc Macro B for ideas. Its a tool they had for conversational programming. Pretty old school appearance but the idea of a macro dialog interpreter inside the control was very leading edge in the 80's/ I wrote dialogs for fanuc 8 9 11 in

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-03 Thread Chris Albertson
The problem is not the touch screen. That is easy and is very little different from a mouse. Your code has to respond to input in the same way. The hard part, by far is designing a good conversational system. Tormach ha "path pilot". Something like that requires a lot of thinking and

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-03 Thread N
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 22:42, Kirk Wallace wrote: > > > Given enough development time and money, my guess is that a LinuxCNC GUI > > could be very similar. The only basically new feature is the swipe and > > gesture touch feature, which Linux/LinuxCNC should be able to use. Or, > > ... I may be

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-02 Thread N
> On 9/2/20 12:55 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > Not much of it, but it does make Axis look a little old-fashioned.. > > > > https://youtu.be/ZgqCY3gUHcM > > > > > A little more information: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWVdVtgyldQ Have monitor on one of my machine on a flexible arm, also

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 9/2/20 2:52 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 22:42, Kirk Wallace wrote: Given enough development time and money, my guess is that a LinuxCNC GUI could be very similar. The only basically new feature is the swipe and gesture touch feature, which Linux/LinuxCNC should be able to

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-02 Thread andy pugh
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 22:42, Kirk Wallace wrote: > Given enough development time and money, my guess is that a LinuxCNC GUI > could be very similar. The only basically new feature is the swipe and > gesture touch feature, which Linux/LinuxCNC should be able to use. Or, > ... I may be way off

Re: [Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-02 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 9/2/20 12:55 PM, andy pugh wrote: Not much of it, but it does make Axis look a little old-fashioned.. https://youtu.be/ZgqCY3gUHcM A little more information: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWVdVtgyldQ Given enough development time and money, my guess is that a LinuxCNC GUI could be

[Emc-users] Interesting GUI

2020-09-02 Thread andy pugh
Not much of it, but it does make Axis look a little old-fashioned.. https://youtu.be/ZgqCY3gUHcM -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper,