Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Earth-Return

2021-03-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Earth-Return

2021-03-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects -- basement ground-source

2021-03-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Earth-Return

2021-03-21 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/21/21 1:32 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: Most grid tie inverters nowadays are transformerless, so you absolutely cannot reference the DC input to ground in any way. It will end in smoke and/or tears! I've taught myself that lesson slowly, tediously, painfully, and expensively. I'm

Re: [EVDL] Solar electric RV

2021-03-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects -- basement ground-source

2021-03-21 Thread BobK via EV
Lee Hart, For my earth tubes I was thinking of at least 8 inches diameter. I’ve not decided on the number of tubes. The end away from the house would drain into a sump. The sump would be enough for a small sump pump that would get rid of the water. Any suggestion are welcome. Bobby Keeland

Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/21/21 1:54 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: It's pretty expensive if you bore 6". But I suspect a lot cheaper at 1.5". I did some searching but can't find any prices. However, based on volume, 1.5" is about 6% of 6". Therefore the drilling should be an order of magnitude less. Around

Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
It's pretty expensive if you bore 6". But I suspect a lot cheaper at 1.5". I did some searching but can't find any prices. However, based on volume, 1.5" is about 6% of 6". Therefore the drilling should be an order of magnitude less. Whether running 1/2" piping would be adequate, I don't

Re: [EVDL] Projects, - EV's, solar and 365 VDC around the home

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: You hit the nail on the head. The migration of all our high-power systems to HV DC is the topic of my book (EV's, Solar', heatpumps, and all modern power supplies). Any power device that uses "variable speed" such as new airconditioners and other appliances are

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: I have no idea of how much it cost to drill a 100 ft or more well through clay soil. I do agree that a vertical pipe would probably be more effective than a horizontal pipe. We had a water well drilled in southwest Missouri some years ago. With casing but no pump that

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Earth-Return

2021-03-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects -- basement ground-source

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: The cheapest DIY ground-source heating is to hang an old Air Conditioner from the floor joists of a popular central room in the house and cut a hole in the floor to connect the hot side of the AC to the room. The cold side remains in the basement air. A 10,000 BTU

[EVDL] Solar electric RV

2021-03-21 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: Right now I’m more interested in working on the 1951 Chevy pickup (we actually use pickups as pickups rather than as a manly car). So do I. What a strange idea! There is a guy on YouTube who is showing his complete process of moving a 1952 Chevy pickup onto an

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/21/21 12:58 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: I don't advise use of an EV battery pack for moving energy around on a daily basis, you will not only void your warranty, but you will suffer early degradation, on top of not having the use of your car while it's being used to power shift. It was

Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: Yes Peter VanDerWal (thanks for the reply) I am aware of all that you said. I was planning on using at least 4 smooth wall tubes that are buried about 10 feet deep with a downward slope away from the house. The earth tubes will be about 100 feet long, and the soil

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/21/21 11:00 AM, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote: As of January 1, 2020 no customers were allowed to get net metering. Those of us who already had net metering were grandfathered in for a few years. When the grandfathering runs out I guess that we will have to pay in order to give our excess

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects -- basement ground-source

2021-03-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
to dig the trenches, the > > mini-split is probably cheaper. > > > > Sometimes the best solution is NOT the simplest solution. > > > > My PGP public key: https://vanderwal.us/evdl_pgp.key > > > > March 19, 2021 6:05 PM, "Bobby Keeland via EV" > w

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Re: [EVDL] Projects, - EV's, solar and 365 VDC around the home

2021-03-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
d > use > >> more energy and I'm comfortable at that temp. > >> > >> So the mini-split is more effective, for less energy and a LOT less > work > >> to install. If you have to hire someone to dig the trenches, the > >> mini-split is probably cheaper. &g

Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
gt;> So the mini-split is more effective, for less energy and a LOT less > work > >> to install. If you have to hire someone to dig the trenches, the > >> mini-split is probably cheaper. > >> > >> Sometimes the best solution is NOT the s

Re: [EVDL] Projects,

2021-03-21 Thread jerry freedomev via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Earth-Return

2021-03-21 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Projects

2021-03-21 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Bobby Keeland via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie via EV wrote: Hmm... If you're on good terms with your neighbor, you could run a wire between houses and sell your excess power to him in the summer, and he could reimburse you in the winter. That highlights a problem I have long considered but not found a viable solution to.  I have

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/21/21 10:30 AM, Jay Summet via EV wrote: Charge up a 100 kWh EV at the 0.3 kWh site in the day, drive it to the other site and discharge it at night? That would be semi-viable if I had an EV with decent V2H/V2G (I'm VERY excited about the new VW offering!). With Teslas, you are

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Charge your tesla and drive it to the other meter and dump :) << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Willie via EV" To: ev@lists.evdl.org Cc: "Willie" Sent: 21-Mar-21 8:28:54 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Charge up a 100 kWh EV at the 0.3 kWh site in the day, drive it to the other site and discharge it at night? Jay On 3/21/21 11:28 AM, Willie via EV wrote: On 3/21/21 10:18 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Hmm... If you're on good terms with your neighbor, you could run a wire between houses and

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Willie via EV
On 3/21/21 10:18 AM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: Hmm... If you're on good terms with your neighbor, you could run a wire between houses and sell your excess power to him in the summer, and he could reimburse you in the winter. That highlights a problem I have long considered but not found a

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: The one thing that off-grid battery systems cannot do is store up the DOUBLE solar energy available in the summer for use in the winter. As a result, the off-grid system has to be drastically overbuilt for the winter and has wasted energy (investment) in the

Re: [EVDL] Took the Tesla Y plunge, no more Fossil Fools - Now Solar

2021-03-21 Thread Ron Solberg via EV
On 2021-03-21 00:14, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: Without NET metering, solar has to rely on batteries for energy storage and that triples the cost of the system making it totally uneconomical. Hi, We just installed an 11 Kw Grid Feed PV that powers our Tesla Model 3 and more. Thanks