Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Mark Abramowitz via EV
Well, yes - why would you want an internal combustion engine running on hydrogen? I don’t know the answer, but at one time BMW thought it was a good idea. I drove the result of their work - a bi-fueled series 8, and loved driving it (it was *not* a disappointment), but why? Sure, reduced

Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Bill Dube via EV
Gasoline engines are designed to run best on gasoline. They can barely be converted to run on H2. In a nutshell, H2 has an extremely low motor octane number (MON) of about 60, and the compression must be reduced so much that the engine makes very little power. The low charge density is a

Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Larry Gales via EV
carbon solution for some sectors by 2030, such as long-haul trucking > > and steel. > > >... > > > > > >--- > > > > > >Peri > > > > > ><< Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle

Re: [EVDL] Energy Improvements ...

2021-05-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: For what it is worth, I researched the improvements in battery capacity since the Edison Nickel-iron EV battery in the 1900's. Looks like it went from 20 Whr/kg to 400 Whr/kg on the latest Tesla cells. A 20-to-1 improvement. Ah, but a 20-to-1 improvement over 100

[EVDL] Energy Improvements ...

2021-05-08 Thread Robert Bruninga via EV
For what it is worth, I researched the improvements in battery capacity since the Edison Nickel-iron EV battery in the 1900's. Looks like it went from 20 Whr/kg to 400 Whr/kg on the latest Tesla cells. A 20-to-1 improvement. For solar, I use the factor of about 200-to-one since 1970. Bob, On

Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 8 May 2021 at 10:10, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > Biofuels can at least be carbon neutral, as you can close the > carbon cycle. It will take a long way to get there of course, as the > complete biofuel production cycle is also still a carbon intensive > operation, but this can be fixed over time.

Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Lee Hart via EV
(-Phil-) via EV wrote: From what research I've done, I believe BioFuels are a better stop gap than H2. H2 is a boondoggle. I just can't find a use case that makes sense, it's poor systemic efficiency, and super-high infrastructure cost take it out of consideration. I'm worried that the use

Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
Resending... didn't go through. << Annoyed by leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> -- Original Message -- From: "Peri Hartman" To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" Sent: 07-May-21 6:27:44 PM Subject: opinion article on hydrogen This article claims that producing

[EVDL] opinion article on hydrogen

2021-05-08 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
This article claims that producing hydrogen will remain too expensive and therefore people will continue to choose to use natural gas if there isn't an electric alternative. It also mentions the poor efficiency of producing it. Using hydrogen fuel risks locking in reliance on fossil fuels,

[EVDL] Video about how Tesla's active fuse works

2021-05-08 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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