Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-26 Thread Willie via EV
On 4/26/21 12:25 PM, Lee Hart via EV wrote: On the plus side, Nissan probably didn't know the batteries would have problems in hot climates. On the negative side, they certainly didn't *support* their customers when they did find out! Well... The Leaf battery did not need to become a

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-26 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Willie via EV wrote: That is, almost certainly, the reason for the difference.  Nissan should not have sold cars in the southern tier of US states.  At least with the faulty batteries. On the plus side, Nissan probably didn't know the batteries would have problems in hot climates. On the

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-26 Thread Willie via EV
On 4/26/21 11:00 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV wrote: It may also help that Renault doesn't sell cars in the US, and much of Europe tends to be more temperate in summer than the southern US. That is, almost certainly, the reason for the difference. Nissan should not have sold cars in

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-26 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 26 Apr 2021 at 9:48, Willie via EV wrote: > battery capacity loss ... in Leafs. I find it intriguing that the Leaf and the Renault Zoe are and were cousin EVs, but no Zoe owners that I have heard of yet have reported anything like the capacity loss that plagued early Leaves. Both cars

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-26 Thread Willie via EV
On 4/26/21 9:28 AM, Peter VanDerWal via EV wrote: I recently managed to get a 10 foot sick of 1" PVC inside my bolt with the rear hatch closed. Folded the rear seat down, the passenger seat forward, and the front of the pipe was up against the windshield. I carry bundles of 10' PVC in

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-26 Thread Peter VanDerWal via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Lee Hart via EV
Jim Walls via EV wrote: My wife drove two mini-vans over a period of almost 20 years.  You are right that they are very practical. Same here; I've been driving minivans since the 1960's. My first was a Chevy Corvair Greenbrier. My last was a VW Eurovan. However, see how happy the wife

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Michael Ross via EV
leaf blowers ? https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Ed Blackmond via EV" > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" > Cc: "Ed Blackmond" > Sent: 24-Apr-21 9:49:01 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one is

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread EVDL Administrator via EV
On 24 Apr 2021 at 14:08, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > For the same size vehicle, a minivan form is generally more practical. > Correct. In most industrialized nations other than the US and Canada, the tradesperson's standard vehicle is a van. It keeps the load dry and the worker's tools

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
"Ed Blackmond" Sent: 24-Apr-21 9:49:01 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't) On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: When it comes to EVs, so far all we have is crossovers and SUVs and, soon, trucks. No minivans on the horizon as best as I ca

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Jim Walls via EV
On 04/24/2021 07:08, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: So, that gets back to the question of whether it's marketing or market response. For the same size vehicle, a minivan form is generally more practical. Take out he rear seats and you'll have 7 or 8 feet of flat space. Put them in and you can haul

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Ed Blackmond via EV
> On Apr 24, 2021, at 7:09 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: > > When it comes to EVs, so far all we have is crossovers and SUVs and, soon, > trucks. No minivans on the horizon as best as I can tell. Is that being > pushed by marketing or is it perceived market ? Volkswagen says they are

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread paul dove via EV
https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/04/is-the-regular-cab-pickup-doomed.html  Here is a good article on the reasons for the demise of the smaller pickups. CAFE being one. Sent from AT Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Friday, April 23, 2021, 9:46 PM, mark hanson via EV wrote: Hi Dave etc, NPR

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
ists.evdl.org Cc: "Jay Summet" Sent: 24-Apr-21 6:14:09 AM Subject: Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't) Yep, that's a SMALL truck alright.bed length of "between 48.4 and 52.1 inches". I personally feel that you need a minimum of a 6' bed (8' with a 24" tailgait d

Re: [EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-24 Thread Jay Summet via EV
Yep, that's a SMALL truck alright.bed length of "between 48.4 and 52.1 inches". I personally feel that you need a minimum of a 6' bed (8' with a 24" tailgait down for reasonable "truck" usagewhich might be why they call it a "sport utility vehicle" or "adventure vehicle". [On the plus

[EVDL] Bloated Trucks/Suvs (one isn't)

2021-04-23 Thread mark hanson via EV
Hi Dave etc, NPR just announced that the *only* small truck available will be made by Hyundai (looks like a Subaru Baja 06'). If they could make it electric, that would be the cat's meow instead of the behemoth CyberTruck or electric Hummer.