RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-08 Thread Jason Gurtz
] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 16:24 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 We got a new oven about a year ago. Instead of a thermocouple the digital ones use a thermistor. The temperature swing is not the same so everything takes longer

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Alex Eckelberry
I totally agree. It took me several months of pain to adjust, as most of my keyboard memory is no longer applicable. These keystrokes were hard-wired into my nervous system from years of working with Outlook. Simple things like inserting a signature *require* a mouse move, when in the past,

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Joseph Heaton
...@centraltechnology.net To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Wed Apr 06 20:23:03 2011 Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Please to not place pets or small child in oven, as not happy result. -Original Message- From: John Cook

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Don Andrews
LG is domestic? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 If a piece of domestic technology (that doesn't pay ME money) is so

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Don Andrews
Zactly! -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Please to not place pets or small child in oven, as not happy

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread PRamatowski
Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 LG is domestic? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 LG is domestic? -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 5:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Don Andrews
Mmmm, ok - guess I misunderstood. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 9:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Pfui on you. This definition: of or related

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Kurt Buff
://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 The major interface on my refrigerate doesn't normally change between

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Guyer, Don
...@fiserv.com Office: 1-800-523-7282 x 1673 Fax: 610-233-0404 www.fiserv.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 LOL! On Wed, Apr 6

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
...@fiserv.com] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 We got a new one a few years back, with a new-fangled digital display and all... When it came time to roll the clocks back (or spring forward I can't

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-07 Thread Kat Aylward
- From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 We got a new one a few years back, with a new-fangled digital display and all... When it came time to roll

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Joe Pochedley
Joe Pochedley Network Telecommunications Manager Fives North American Combustion, Inc. From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Robert Peterson Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 are you sure

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Kurt Buff
: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Robert Peterson Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 are you sure this is not in OL 2k3? In 2k10 I dont see a Messdage Options option. I had to add the button for Message Headers to QuickAccess Toolbar

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Jonathan Link
Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Robert Peterson Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 are you sure this is not in OL 2k3? In 2k10 I dont see a Messdage Options option. I had to add

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Kurt Buff
-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Robert Peterson Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 are you sure this is not in OL 2k3? In 2k10 I dont see a Messdage Options option. I had to add the button for Message Headers to QuickAccess Toolbar. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Joe Pochedley
-Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Found this yesterday late, after much searching. It's kinda beside the point, though I'm glad

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
and enjoy your headers. HTH Joe Pochedley Network Telecommunications Manager Fives North American Combustion, Inc. From: David Liu [mailto:ganymed...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 11:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Cc: Robert Peterson Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Kurt Buff
- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Found this yesterday late, after much searching. It's kinda beside the point, though I'm glad to have it. I'll

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Jason Gurtz
Combustion, Inc. v: +1 216.206.5505 f: +1 216.641.7852 -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Found this yesterday

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Missy Koslosky
I still miss alti|i on a near daily basis. I hate the damn mouse. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Really hate it. Insert a signature OL2003: Alt/i/s/enter

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Matt Moore
-Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Found this yesterday late, after much searching. It's kinda beside the point, though I'm

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Kurt Buff
, April 06, 2011 9:16 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 POLA is about producing the minimum changes necessary in the user experience and in program behavior. The complete makeover of the UI for Outlook (and Office) is an excellent

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 The major interface on my refrigerate doesn't normally change between models, nor is it so complex as to stymie using it for its intended function. Ditto for my car

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread John Cook
...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 6:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 The major interface on my refrigerate doesn't normally change between models, nor is it so complex as to stymie using it for its intended function. Ditto

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Michael B. Smith
and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 RTFM John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread Campbell, Rob
Please to not place pets or small child in oven, as not happy result. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 RTFM John W. Cook Systems

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread John Cook
. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 RTFM John W. Cook Systems

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-06 Thread John Cook
: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Please to not place pets or small child in oven, as not happy result. -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 7:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Don Ely
Why don't you want to open it? If you're concerned about crap embedded, convert in to plain text. The open the message, go to File and select properties... On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 3:56 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, just had to say this... rant Aside from the fact that they

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Michael B. Smith
What's the problem with opening the message? Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OT:ish - I'm

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
Why should I have to open it? They've removed functionality that's been there for nearly 15 years! They've basically abandoned the CUA interface design, which is a decent UI architecture, in the interest of flash, with no increase in functionality. grumble... They have massively violated POLA:

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Jonathan Link
You forgot the obligatory: get off my lawn! On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Why should I have to open it? They've removed functionality that's been there for nearly 15 years! They've basically abandoned the CUA interface design, which is a decent UI

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
Perhaps nothing. Perhaps a lot. What matters is the design decision, and the lack of continuity (and concern for) for long-term users, when the cost to keep it the same is nil. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 16:09, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: What's the problem with opening the

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
Indeed! (tm) On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 16:13, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.com wrote: You forgot the obligatory: get off my lawn! On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Why should I have to open it? They've removed functionality that's been there for nearly

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I dont think Microsoft is aware of anything listed within the domain, . freebsd.org. Or they pretend it doesn't exist hoping it will go away. -- ME2 On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: Why should I have to open it? They've removed functionality that's

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
They've very aware of it. After all, they stole their network stack from them, some years ago, down to the comments in the source code. Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 16:16, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I dont think Microsoft is aware of anything listed within the domain,

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
Let me rephrase that. They didn't steal the code, as it's free, as in speech and beer, but they were a bit chary in attributing the source, shall we say... Kurt On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 16:16, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I dont think Microsoft is aware of anything listed

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Michael B. Smith
Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Why should I have to open it? They've removed functionality that's been there for nearly 15 years! They've

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Michael B. Smith
. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Let me rephrase

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Robert Peterson
Right click on the message and select Message Options, the header info is then visible without opening the email. Of course... it still helps to rant. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 5:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Why should I have to open it? They've removed functionality that's been there for nearly 15 years! They've basically

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Matt Moore
I'll take the key strokes. M -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Really hate it. Insert a signature OL2003: Alt/i/s/enter Insert

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
That option isn't there, when I click on it. I've done some more looking, and found that you can reveal the Message Options in the ribbon if you try hard enough, but that still doesn't put it in the context menu. So, I'm still required to get my hands on a pointing device to make this happen,

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
-Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:21 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Let me rephrase that. They didn't steal the code, as it's free, as in speech and beer, but they were

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Really hate it. Insert a signature OL2003: Alt/i/s/enter Insert a signature OL2010: Alt/n/a/s/enter Realio trulio? Change the keystroke sequence *and* make

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Campbell, Rob
Try this: http://gsexdev.blogspot.com/2009/06/simple-exchange-email-client-for.html Doesn't use MAPI, so it'll run right alongside of Outlook if you want. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 5:57 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Michael B. Smith
...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 7:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Try this: http://gsexdev.blogspot.com/2009/06/simple-exchange-email-client-for.html Doesn't use MAPI, so it'll run right alongside of Outlook if you want

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Campbell, Rob
I wish I was. Training and conference budget got slashed this year. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 I have my own

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Michael B. Smith
7:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 I wish I was. Training and conference budget got slashed this year. -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 6:48 PM To: MS

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Campbell, Rob
-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 Sorry to hear that. :-( Both the PowerShell and Exchange track are AMAZING this year. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com -Original Message- From: Campbell

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Kurt Buff
That's pretty dang cool! I'll have to try that out. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 16:43, Campbell, Rob rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net wrote: Try this: http://gsexdev.blogspot.com/2009/06/simple-exchange-email-client-for.html Doesn't use MAPI, so it'll run right alongside of Outlook if you

RE: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread Matt Moore
All the hating Better go back and read again. M -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 4:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010 BoFH mode Learn the keyboard, it's

Re: OT:ish - I'm beginning to *really* hate OL2010

2011-04-05 Thread David Liu
are you sure this is not in OL 2k3? In 2k10 I dont see a Messdage Options option. I had to add the button for Message Headers to QuickAccess Toolbar. On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 7:25 PM, Robert Peterson robert.peter...@prin.eduwrote: Right click on the message and select Message Options, the header