On 10/10/2009 11:07 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
Just upgraded my F11 workstation, which included an upgrade to
thunderbird-3.0-2.7.b4.fc11.x86_64
Without any prompting or warning, my email layout -- a key interface
into my open source development workflow -- was changed to use
something called
Jameson wrote, at 10/11/2009 06:37 AM +9:00:
I'm having trouble getting the new version of libprojectM packaged,
and hope someone can shed some light on this for me.
Would you upload the srpm you are trying somewhere?
When I enter the
commands to build it manually, it builds fine, but when
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 01:03:01AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Wrong list and a week late[1]. No need to continue the old discussion here.
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-October/msg00110.html
I don't think so. Not willing to put words in Jeff's mouth, but I don't
On 10/11/2009 02:11 PM, Dodji Seketeli wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 01:03:01AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Wrong list and a week late[1]. No need to continue the old discussion here.
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2009-October/msg00110.html
I don't think so. Not
On 10/11/2009 04:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
It was ok to ship a beta release of thunderbird but updates shouldn't
cause such issues. If the fixes were necessary to push as updates then
it would have prudent to disable smart folders and indexing by
default and leave it enabled in Fedora 12.
The best would be to file a bug against both thunderbird and sunbird
and kindly state what you would need for building blueZync.
Thanks for the hint. Bugs filed:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528320
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528321
If you as the developer
On 10/11/2009 11:16 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
On 10/11/2009 04:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
It was ok to ship a beta release of thunderbird but updates shouldn't
cause such issues. If the fixes were necessary to push as updates then
it would have prudent to disable smart folders and indexing by
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:29:19AM +0200, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
There is a difference between stable and static, if we have a beta of
thunderbird in F11, then it expected to change between beta releases.
Sure. But at the same time the word stable in the expression
stable version ought to mean
On 10/11/2009 11:29 AM, Tim Lauridsen wrote:
On 10/11/2009 11:16 AM, Jeff Garzik wrote:
On 10/11/2009 04:54 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
It was ok to ship a beta release of thunderbird but updates shouldn't
cause such issues. If the fixes were necessary to push as updates then
it would have
Matej Cepl wrote:
When you install xulrunner*devel what files you are missing?
I miss all the interfaces specific to Thunderbird and Sunbird: Address
book, Calendar, etc.
Just one example: the whole /usr/include/thunderbird/addrbook directory
with files like nsIAbDirectory.h and
Compose started at Sun Oct 11 06:15:06 UTC 2009
Broken deps for i386
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sugar-toolkit-0.86.0-1.fc12.i686 requires python-json
Broken deps for x86_64
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On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Mamoru Tasaka
mtas...@ioa.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp wrote:
Jameson wrote, at 10/11/2009 06:37 AM +9:00:
I'm having trouble getting the new version of libprojectM packaged,
and hope someone can shed some light on this for me.
Would you upload the srpm you are trying
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:33:12 -0400, Jameson wrote:
My current attempt at their SVN code can be found at:
http://www.vtscrew.com/libprojectM-1.2.0r1295-9.fc11.src.rpm
Patch attached. Do the same for any other directories where it may be
necessary.
diff -Nur
I see. Thanks for your quick reply. Upstream has been working with
me recently to get this building natively without some patches that
were needed in the past, so I'll pass this along.
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There are several issues being discussed here.
Thunderbird itself and what upstream are doing:
(i) In my view smart folders are silly most of the time.
Comixing different accounts is a really bad idea.
(ii) GLODA = the global
Le Dim 11 octobre 2009 16:48, Mail Lists a écrit :
This is not just indexing each account - its accross ALL accounts.
Especially when you note that it will only index things that TB
has a local copy of in mbox format - and TB switched to make local
copies of everything by
Le Dim 11 octobre 2009 18:02, Nicolas Mailhot a écrit :
There are three schools of design: […]. Unfortunately our desktop people
never seem
to choose option 2.
Sorry about the unfair generalization, there are of course exceptions
On 10/11/2009 03:41 AM, Dodji Seketeli wrote:
I don't think so. Not willing to put words in Jeff's mouth, but I don't
think he was discussing the UI changes of Thunderbird. I took it as he was
rather
discussing the upgrade process within Fedora.
So never ship beta software? That nixes
On 10/11/2009 09:45 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
So never ship beta software? That nixes a lot of Fedora packages.
Whether to include a beta or not should be decided on a case by case
basis. It is a good idea to avoid those but if there are substantial
benefits, it is fine. The focal
Rahul Sundaram, Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:24:53 +0530:
It was ok to ship a beta release of thunderbird but updates shouldn't
cause such issues. If the fixes were necessary to push as updates then
it would have prudent to disable smart folders and indexing by
default and leave it enabled in Fedora
On 10/11/2009 11:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Whether to include a beta or not should be decided on a case by case
basis. It is a good idea to avoid those but if there are substantial
benefits, it is fine. The focal point of the discussion isn't what it
originally include but how the software
On 10/11/2009 10:02 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
Rahul Sundaram, Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:24:53 +0530:
It was ok to ship a beta release of thunderbird but updates shouldn't
cause such issues. If the fixes were necessary to push as updates then
it would have prudent to disable smart folders and indexing by
Matej Cepl, Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:32:26 +:
Rahul Sundaram, Sun, 11 Oct 2009 14:24:53 +0530:
It was ok to ship a beta release of thunderbird but updates shouldn't
cause such issues. If the fixes were necessary to push as updates then
it would have prudent to disable smart folders and
Rawhide Report wrote:
Removed package python-json
Why was this removed? sugar-toolkit requires this package and now has broken
dependencies!
Kevin Kofler
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On 10/11/2009 10:03 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
I do use TB (read my email headers). I fully understood that TB 3.0 was
in beta and could drastically change at any moment. I keep track of
their development as well so I was prepared for the changes that have
happened. If you expect beta
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Rawhide Report wrote:
Removed package python-json
Why was this removed? sugar-toolkit requires this package and now has broken
dependencies!
Apparently the functionality has been merged into the main python
package.
On 10/11/2009 11:46 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Oh please. Expecting all Fedora thunderbird users to keep track of
upstream development of software included in Fedora is totally
ridiculous. The package maintainer made the judgement to include a beta
release of thunderbird. If major UI or other
On 10/11/2009 10:24 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Did I say that people should do exactly as I do? No. Please don't put
words in my mouth.
It did clearly appear that you implied that. To simplify matters, the
basic question really is whether it is ok for updates to cause problems
for end
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Peter Robinson pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 5:47 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Rawhide Report wrote:
Removed package python-json
Why was this removed? sugar-toolkit requires this package and now has broken
dependencies!
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 10/11/2009 10:24 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
Did I say that people should do exactly as I do? No. Please don't put
words in my mouth.
It did clearly appear that you implied that. To simplify matters, the
basic question really is whether it
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1. 55 as fontconfig priority
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1. needs xorg-x11-font-utils
Hi all,
I'm currently discussing with the developers for Fan
(http://fandev.org/), a JVM/CLR language, the possibility of them
relicensing or dual-licensing from the Academic Free License.
Current discussion thread here:
http://fandev.org/sidewalk/topic/777
The main concern seems to be that
2009/10/11 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
Hi everyone,
--SNIP--
But it seemed to me that only
works in runlevel 5.
--SNIP--
NumLockX may not help you in runlevel 3. You might
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
Hi everyone,
--SNIP--
But it seemed to me that only
works in
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
Hi everyone,
--SNIP--
But it seemed to me that only
works in
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Didar Hossain didar.hoss...@gmail.com wrote:
Use `setled' if in runlevel 3 or `xset -led' (RTFM) under X.
Typo - setleds
Didar
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2009/10/10 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 suvayu ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com:
Hi everyone,
--SNIP--
But
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM, suvayu ali
fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/10 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
Frank Cox wrote:
Can you give me an example of a website that's
causing you problems?
Yes, I can, two, in fact:
www.google.ca (when logging out, after having used the
reader, but any google service, I believe, google-
analytics is called and it hangs, so the logged out
successfully screen
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:37:56 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Can you give me an example of a website that's
causing you problems?
Allow me to rephrase that:
Can you give me an example of a website that's giving you problems and that
won't force me to create some kind of user account that
I looked at your web page suggestions. I have not
looked at your 2 configuration files yet, but I noticed
that you indicate telling Firefox not to use a proxy
for certain problem sites.
With no proxy for:
- www.pcpoints.ca it still doesn't work
- ssl.google-analytics.com the site now
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 00:49:35 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
blocking it causes some (at least one known, so far)
essential sites not to work at all.
Any way to solve the conundrum?
1. It's included in my user.action file. and it hasn't caused any problems yet
that I'm aware of.
2. If
2009/10/10 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:34 PM, suvayu ali
fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/10 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 11:02 PM, Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru wrote:
2009/10/11 Kam Leo kam@gmail.com:
On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 10:46
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 09:10:27 +0500,
gil...@altern.org wrote:
I took a look before writing my answer and the information I got is it's a
mean for people on the net or your ISP to take a look at the data on your
computer *before* it's encrypted.
Not on your computer, when it reaches the
Frank Cox wrote:
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
Any way to solve the conundrum?
1. It's included in my user.action file. and it
hasn't caused any problems
yet that I'm aware of.
2. If you read the article referred you to earlier
you will discover a
reference to customizegoogle, which
Dear All,
I have a computer where the Network Manager Applet cannot be seen. How
can I restore it on the system tray?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 11:36 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
I have a computer where the Network Manager Applet cannot be seen. How
can I restore it on the system tray?
If you're using Gnome, you may have removed the Notification Area
which is where the Network Manager applet (and others) appear.
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
I have a computer where the Network Manager Applet cannot be seen. How
can I restore it on the system tray?
If you're using Gnome, you may have removed the Notification Area
which is where the Network Manager applet
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 12:04 +0100, Paul Smith wrote:
but I am using XFCE
Stick that detail in the subject line. It's more likely to get the
attention of someone with an answer, that way. I haven't tried XFCE for
a couple of years.
That, or try a Google search.
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On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 21:01 -0400, David wrote:
The applications have to be written in 'something'. These happen to be
written in GTK. And my point was that that does not make Fedora a
GNOME distribution. It appears to me that Fedora *chooses* to be a
GNOME Desktop default distro.
Well, the
On 10/11/2009 07:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Nevertheless, it remains true that Fedora is a Gnome-based distro! Why?
Because it's all over the documentation. I doubt you'll find the phrase
Fedora is a Gnome-based distro anywhere in the docs, but the fact
remains that at every juncture
On 10/11/2009 10:18 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 21:01 -0400, David wrote:
The applications have to be written in 'something'. These happen to be
written in GTK. And my point was that that does not make Fedora a
GNOME distribution. It appears to me that Fedora *chooses*
Thunderbird 3.0-2.7.b4.fc11 has strange problems going on.
My friends are calling me and telling me that Mouse won't work , can't
send email
on SMTP server, loosing delete Icons etc.
On the first two I had them move .thunderbird into /Download, temp, and
uninstall Thunderbird and reinstall
Frank Cox wrote:
[google-analytics.com is] included in my user.action
file. and it hasn't caused any problems yet
that I'm aware of.
I have removed ssl.google-analytics.com from the sites
that bypass privoxy, but to be safe, I did make an
entry to refuse cookies.
I checked your user.action
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On 10/11/2009 11:42 AM, Jim wrote:
Thunderbird 3.0-2.7.b4.fc11 has strange problems going on.
My friends are calling me and telling me that Mouse won't work , can't
send email
on SMTP server, loosing delete Icons etc.
On the first two I had
On Sun, 11 Oct 2009 10:47:19 -0600
Petrus de Calguarium wrote:
I had a look at customizegoogle, but I pass. Thanks for
the suggestion, but I prefer to avoid installing
scripts and firefox addons, etc., that do not originate
from reputable sources like fedora, mozilla, etc.
customizegoogle
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 10/11/2009 07:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Nevertheless, it remains true that Fedora is a Gnome-based distro! Why?
Because it's all over the documentation. I doubt you'll find the phrase
Fedora is a Gnome-based distro anywhere in the docs, but the fact
remains
--- On Fri, 10/9/09, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
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Subject: Re: strange issue with XFCE spin LiveCD
To: fedora-list@redhat.com
Date: Friday, October 9, 2009, 2:33 PM
On Thu, 8 Oct 2009 06:31:29 -0700
(PDT)
Globe Trotter itsme_...@yahoo.com
wrote:
On 10/11/2009 11:13 PM, Roberto Ragusa wrote:
Put in this way, it appears that KDE and PPC are
just supported because there are a few weird
people and weird machines around.
Seems people try hard to find fault. However the design is changing for
Fedora 12
On 10/09/2009 12:36 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 14:12:32 -0400,
Dr. Michael J. Chudobiak m...@avtechpulse.com wrote:
Anyway, it is unlikely that your ISP is messing with you (has such a
case ever been reported?), but it is technically possible.
I think what
I'm getting a lot (42000) of the following message showing up in my
.xsession-errors file
(firefox:15823): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
pid 15823 is /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.3/firefox
I also see the following errors:
(firefox:5767): Gdk-WARNING **: GdkWindow 0x3f02525
i've been fighting with this for a while -- any attempt to play
youtube videos plays them at what appears to be double speed, no
audio, and fairly erratically. i have a fully-updated f11 system, and
i have no idea what the problem is -- flash had been working fine for
the longest time. any
Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2009, 11:39 -0700 schrieb Paolo Galtieri:
I'm getting a lot (42000) of the following message showing up in
my .xsession-errors file
(firefox:15823): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
pid 15823 is /usr/lib64/firefox-3.5.3/firefox
I also see the following
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Julian Aloofi
julian.fedorali...@googlemail.com wrote:
Am Sonntag, den 11.10.2009, 11:39 -0700 schrieb Paolo Galtieri:
I'm getting a lot (42000) of the following message showing up in
my .xsession-errors file
(firefox:15823): Gdk-WARNING **: XID
Yeah, every morning, I cannot log in, from
the keyboard nor from another system.
I am forced to hit the reset button.
My system is an Intel Core 2 Duo.
When is this annoying problem going to
get fixed or has this been reported as
a bug somewhere?
Here is what I see in /var/log/message file:
Hello all,
Swing applications' menus have no border when Clearlook theme is
selected in both fedora 10 and f11, however when nodoka theme is
selected, the menus are well displayed.
currently i have fedora 11 with the last updates which include:
java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-29.b16.fc11
Frank Cox wrote:
customizegoogle is available through mozilla
Thanks for the correction :-0
I will keep it in mind, in case I need further
protection.
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Hi I have an intel chipset G31/946Z with graphics (GMA 3100). I have
just installed fedora 11 but am not able to change the screen resolution
so assume I may need additional drivers. New to linux. Advice much
appreciated.
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Apologies if this is not the proper place to
post this question.
There are two versions of Glade Interface Designer
programs, v2.12.2 and v3.6.1, provided with F11 and I
seem to be having a problem with GID v3.6.1.
There seems to be some widgets that are not supported,
hence some widgets being
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 10:57 -0400, David wrote:
So your point is that Fedora is a a GNOME *based* distribution taken
from the Docs? I would imagine that the 'GNOME thing' you see is a
result of the Doc author being familiar with GNOME and not KDE. On the
help list I often see someone ask for
On 10/11/2009 02:30 PM, jenny chapman wrote:
Hi I have an intel chipset G31/946Z with graphics (GMA 3100). I have
just installed fedora 11 but am not able to change the screen resolution
so assume I may need additional drivers. New to linux. Advice much
appreciated.
This has been
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 08:20:07AM -0700, Markus Kesaromous wrote:
Subject: Converting GPT to MBR
Second try to find an answer...
Hi all,
I purchased a 1.5 TB HD, and I used gparted to create 4 partitions (GPT),
without knowing that winx XP (32) cannot access GPT. Among the
is a vfat
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 10:30:21PM +0100, jenny chapman wrote:
Hi I have an intel chipset G31/946Z with graphics (GMA 3100). I have
just installed fedora 11 but am not able to change the screen resolution
so assume I may need additional drivers. New to linux. Advice much
appreciated.
On 10/11/2009 6:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Sun, 2009-10-11 at 10:57 -0400, David wrote:
So your point is that Fedora is a a GNOME *based* distribution taken
from the Docs? I would imagine that the 'GNOME thing' you see is a
result of the Doc author being familiar with GNOME and not
On 10/11/2009 03:03 PM, Daniel B. Thurman wrote:
Apologies if this is not the proper place to
post this question.
There are two versions of Glade Interface Designer
programs, v2.12.2 and v3.6.1, provided with F11 and I
seem to be having a problem with GID v3.6.1.
There seems to be some
Am Donnerstag, den 08.10.2009, 21:25 -0400 schrieb Steve Blackwell:
I'm using xmessage from /etc/profile to put up a message whenever
anyone logs in. It works fine but it is butt ugly! Does anyone know of
an alternative? Perhaps something that uses a GNOME theme?
yum install gxmessage
Am Mittwoch, den 07.10.2009, 18:03 + schrieb Croombe F. Pensom:
Ever since I upgraded to F11, I can no longer log in as root.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Enabling_Root_User_For_GNOME_Display_Manager
Regards,
Christoph
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Hi all,
I have a problem with unix mail
Whenever there's a cron failure, etc. mail gets sent to root on
localhost. It seems that it tries to use sendmail, except I have ssmtp
set up in the alternatives.
From reading the docs, it looks like ssmtp doesn't support unix mail.
I don't want the
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:34:59 -0700,
Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote:
On 10/09/2009 12:36 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
If you have residential cable or dsl from the local duopoly they
are quite likely to be messing with you. They may provide DNS with bogus
TTLs, send RST packets
Respected Sir/Madam,
I was trying to download the DVD iso of the fedora 11, using the link
www.fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all.
But, the
x86_64http://download.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/11/Fedora/x86_64/iso/Fedora-11-x86_64-DVD.iso-
Install DVD link of the page, is showing
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