Ok you got me thinking,
Anyone remember an NCR (3-15?) machine that used the type 29 TTY terminal as
the main console?
Language was called Neat, NCR version of assembly.
But the most interesting (to me) was the Cram deck it used.
A stack of 255 magnetic cards dropped down around a spinning head
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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of jim
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:45 PM
To: 'Steve Potter'; 'Alan NV8A'; 'FlexRadio Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
Well, I first learned what a computer
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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steve Potter
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:03 PM
To: Alan NV8A; FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
What's wrong
...@flex-radio.biz on behalf of Frank Goenninger
Sent: Fri 11/12/2010 1:08 PM
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steve Potter
Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steve Potter
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:03 PM
To: Alan NV8A; FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re
] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
What's wrong with you all these high level languages are for
g**lscobol, forth, list,
??? You mean, Lisp, don't you? That's Common Lisp today. Why not use Common
Lisp's Macro system to write a SDR Application Compiler that directly
translates high
I don't go back to the 60's, but I have fond memories of my time at
Honeywell Micro Switch in Freeport,Il in the early 70's. I would schedule
many days of time in the computer room teaching myself BASIC in order to
perform low inertia servo motor calculations for use in tape drives. I can't
From: William H. Fite omni...@gmail.com
To: Frank Goenninger f...@me.com
Cc: FlexRadio Reflector FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Fri, November 12, 2010 9:18:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
LISP = Lots of Irritating and Silly Parentheses
I'm
--1972--
IBM 360
IBM 370
IBM 1130
CDC 3170
DG Nova
B-6700
8008
8080
6800
PDP-8I
PDP-8M
PDP-8A
P-machine
Nanodata QM1
Fairchild F8
HP-2100
HP-21MX
PDP-11/[10|20|23|34|40|45|60|70]
VAX-11/780
DecSystem-10
DecSystem-20
8086
8088
--Advent of the IBM PC--
68000
80286
B-6800
80386
HP-3000
SPARC
MIPS
IBM
Is this the list of approved computers for the Flex Radio !!
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com
Sent: Nov 12, 2010 10:32 AM
To: Flex Radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [FlexRadio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
--1972
12, 2010 10:32 AM
To: Flex Radio FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] [FlexRadio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
--1972--
IBM 360
IBM 370
IBM 1130
CDC 3170
DG Nova
B-6700
8008
8080
6800
PDP-8I
PDP-8M
PDP-8A
P-machine
Nanodata QM1
Fairchild F8
HP-2100
HP-21MX
You guys are making me feel OLD...
I just looked up at the bookcase and saw that Starting FORTH was
sitting right next to Programming the Z80 and other 8-bit CPU
references that I haven't looked at in 30 or so years.
I hope it's not just nostalgic GEN-1 CPU geeks buying Flex radios.
There's
Heck, you are all newbies.
I started out with two big pieces of crystal and a doorknob; we programmed
in Dude. Dude worked by shouting at your colleague to do the work or you
would throw one of the crystals at him. If he didn't perform correctly (a
bug) you showed him the doorknob. The second
I can tell you one thing: Trying to measure or define Lines Of Code (LOCs) per
day is a pointless exercise. I've never met ANYone in the industry who thinks
this is a valid measure. It varies widely based on the language and the
maturity of the project, for one thing. There are periods
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Alfred Green n...@cox.net wrote:
I can tell you one thing: Trying to measure or define Lines Of Code
(LOCs) per day is a pointless exercise. I've never met ANYone in the
industry who thinks this is a valid measure. It varies widely based on the
language
Was that an emoticon or a small forth program at the end of your email?
.sri
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Jerry Gardner w6uvf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 8:32 AM, Alfred Green n...@cox.net
Hey, APL is self commenting. Yep, I love the smell of manipulating
matrices in the morning!!!
73... Jon W1MNK Retired APL and 370 assembler (amongst a plethora of
other talents) programmer.
PS I still have my IBM Selectric APL type balls!!
PPS An APL emulator is still available for Windows.
:-) Now that was a bright spot in my day!
Tim N9PUZ
On 11/11/2010 4:25 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
Was that an emoticon or a small forth program at the end of your email?
.sri
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Jerry
The best example of a write once never read again language (I loved it also
in the 70s but the drugs wore off).
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Gerald Youngblood ger...@flexradio.comwrote:
Dave,
I was
: HELLO HELLO WORLD ;
If I remember correctly.
Gerald
Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President and CEO
FlexRadio Systems(TM)
13091 Pond Springs Road, #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 202
Email: ger...@flexradio.com
Web: www.flexradio.com http://www.flex-radio.com/
Tune In Excitement
Nope. Close:
: HELLO . Hello World ;
HELLO
(the . was the PRINT statement)
I always thought it the sign of a TRUE programmer/software engineer if they had
Leo Brodie's Starting FORTH from FORTH, Inc. in their bookshelf.
I did FORTH for about three years. Which is amazing for a 41 year old.
I still have my uForth manual.
Gerald
Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR
President and CEO
FlexRadio Systems(TM)
13091 Pond Springs Road, #250
Austin, TX 78729
Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 202
Email: ger...@flexradio.com
Web: www.flexradio.com http://www.flex-radio.com/
Tune In Excitement (TM)
PowerSDR(TM)
On 11/11/10 07:14 pm, Fred Spinner wrote:
Nope. Close:
: HELLO . Hello World ;
HELLO
(the . was the PRINT statement)
I always thought it the sign of a TRUE programmer/software engineer if they had
Leo Brodie's Starting FORTH from FORTH, Inc. in their bookshelf.
I did FORTH for about three
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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: 12 November 2010 00:51
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
On 11/11/10 07:14 pm, Fred Spinner wrote:
Nope
I used to work on a language called ASYST in the late 80's. It was basically
FORTH with a large base of words to control data acquisition hardware on
PC's, mathematical functions, graphing, and so on.
Fun stuff, haven't thought about it in years.
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Gerald
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To: Alan NV8A n...@charter.net; FlexRadio Reflector
FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
What's wrong with you all these high
] On Behalf Of Alan NV8A
Sent: 12 November 2010 00:51
To: FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
On 11/11/10 07:14 pm, Fred Spinner wrote:
Nope. Close:
: HELLO . Hello World ;
HELLO
(the . was the PRINT statement)
I always thought it the sign
I preferred the multiplication part of the order.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV, http://sdr-radio.com
(All E-mail verified to be RFC1149 and RFC2549 compliant)
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radio.biz] On Behalf Of Gerald Youngblood
Some of us (a few anyway) are still working in FORTH delivering PIC
based products.
Check out FlashForth (by Mikael, OH2AUN) on SourceForge.
Pete
AG7C
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To: Alan NV8A n...@charter.net; FlexRadio Reflector
FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
What's wrong with you all these high level languages are for
g**lscobol
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Steve Potter
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 7:03 PM
To: Alan NV8A; FlexRadio Reflector
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
What's wrong with you all these high level languages are for
g**lscobol, forth, list
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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of jim
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:45 PM
To: 'Steve Potter'; 'Alan NV8A'; 'FlexRadio Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
Well, I
taxpayer
dollars) that is really disturbing to read but it puts things into perspective.
Thank goodness for the FlexRadio team!!
Edwin Marzan AB2VW
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:17:53 -0800
From: w4...@yahoo.com
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important
: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 7:58 AM
To: w4...@yahoo.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
Steve wrote,
In the DOD industry the long held standard rate of good tested software
code output per person is 2 lines of code per man per day. Really
Agreed on all points, Steve.
Everyone who is a customer (and potential customer) of FlexRadio is free to
criticize. This is not the Soviet Union. I'm kinda upset that someone was
silenced because of his/her objections in a review of the products.
That's extremely disturbing.
On a separate
-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] FlexRadio-An Important Perspective
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:20:20 -0500
My 2 cents, as a former member of the government...
2 lines of good, tested software code per day in a program with 20,000 lines
of code and 1000 test cases is not an unrealistic
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:50 AM, Edwin Marzan edwin_mar...@hotmail.comwrote:
I read somewhere that Windows 7 is probably the most complicated piece of
software written to date.
That may be but has anybody ever asked if it needed to be that complicated?
A mature technology achieves a sort of
Yes indeed, Brian. Those of us in the health sciences will recall that
Varian had a little software bug a while back that resulted in their linacs
delivering something like a 20X overdose of radiation. I think the patients
who died, and their families, have the right to expect that the
Hi,
I made the jump from 1.X.X to 2.0.16 last night and everything went
flawlessly. I uninstalled all previous drivers and software beforehand
as per the documentation. It took me less than 10 minutes and a reboot.
I run Win7x64, Core Duo, 8G ram system.
There is a noticable improvement
I don't write code, myself, but I just chatted a buddy who works for Google
who pointed out a couple of things. First, at least at Google, two lines per
programmer per day would be considered about right.
Re: Google. REALLY? I find that *exceptionally* surprising. But I digress...
I
At 11:16 11/10/2010, William H. Fite wrote:
I don't write code, myself,
I do. Have for over 50 years. Close to 100K lines of code written
in that time.
Yes, that's 2K lines per year, 6 lines per day. One of the slowest was about
2 months for 57 lines of code. Language was MS Basic for
Lines of code is really not relevant when the development is done with
tools. I think one would be surprised how many lines of code there are
for PowerSDR .
73 Ross K9COX
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Years ago, I was involved in a development group that was told by
management that metrics were being introduced to see how productive the
software team was.
Prior to that announcement, the team wrote code in a very compact
fashion, so that you could see as much of a program or module as
possible
Years ago, I was involved in a development group that was told by
management that metrics were being introduced to see how productive the
software team was.
Prior to that announcement, the team wrote code in a very compact
fashion, so that you could see as much of a program or module as
possible
I was chief engineer on some big code projects. When people talk about 2
lines per day, they frequently get that number by dividing the total
code delivered by the total man days expended on the project. It
ignores test code, discarded code, code for tools, etc. and also
includes the time
Greetings All,
As a professional RF and radio systems design engineer for 31 years, and
currently chief engineer in charge of one of the largest and most complex RF
systems in the world, I would like to provide an important perspective given
the
recent chatter here on the reflector.
I have
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