Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-07-01 Thread F1HDI
Hello, Thanks for the explanations, now I have another silly question : Why not normalizing the noise floor value to either 1Hz (consistant with the -174dBm/Hz) or 2,5kHz which in general is the 'normalizing filter width for noise measurement'. I would vote for the 1Hz norm , I understand that

Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-07-01 Thread Graham Haddock
Jean Marc: I think it would be impossible (or at least difficult) to rescale the noise without also rescaling the signal levels in the same bandwidth. Even though you can tell them apart, the signal processing algorithms can not, so it would introduce errors in the reported levels of the

Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-06-29 Thread Robert McGwier
Or put another way, if the filter is 10 bins wide (117 Hz = 10*4096/48000) the noise power in that 117 Hz is the sum of the noise lower in those ten bins and thus should be ten times or 10 dB bigger than the noise floor. This is what the meter reads: all the power, noise + signal, in the ten bins

Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-06-29 Thread Tony Estep
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 5:48 AM, Robert McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: ...Great discussion! It certainly has been a great discussion, very informative. Thanks to Jean-Marc for bringing this up, and to Graham and Bob for their explanations. Tony KT0NY

Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-06-29 Thread Robert McGwier
Forgive the typo, 117 = 10 * 48000/4096 Hz. On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Robert McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: Or put another way, if the filter is 10 bins wide (117 Hz = 10*4096/48000) the noise power in that 117 Hz is the sum of the noise lower in those ten bins and thus should be

[Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-06-28 Thread F1HDI
Hello, In Powersdr, how is computed the values of the noise floor across the spectrum in spectrum, panafall modes ?. To be more specific, those values relate to which bandwitdh ?. Kind regards Jean-marc F1HDI ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List

Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-06-28 Thread Alfred Green
On 6/28/2011 9:14 AM, F1HDI wrote: Hello, In Powersdr, how is computed the values of the noise floor across the spectrum in spectrum, panafall modes ?. To be more specific, those values relate to which bandwitdh ?. It's not a silly question at all, and I would also like to see the answer.

Re: [Flexradio] Silly question / Noise floor

2011-06-28 Thread Graham Haddock
Hello Jean-Marc: Not a silly question at all. In fact, a great question. The panadaptor is fixed at 4096 bins. Each bin is essentially a receiver with bandwidth equal to the sample rate divided by 4096. Example: for a FLEX-1500, which has sample rate of 48,000 samples per second, the bin